The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 521 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: WTB E34 M5 Re: WTB E34 M5 Re: WTB E34 M5 E39 Engine Problem Challenge Re: E39 Engine Problem Challenge Re: E39 Engine Problem Challenge Re: E39 Engine Problem Challenge Re: E39 Engine Problem Challenge Re: E39 Engine Problem Challenge Re: E39 Engine Problem Challenge <E36> What is the "i" designation in 325i ? Re: <E36> What is the "i" designation in 325i ? <OT> Style Rants E30 radio options Re: E30 radio options
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 21:36:32 -0500 From: Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: WTB E34 M5 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Group Website: http://yahoogroups.com/group/bmwe34m5 BMW Links: http://yahoogroups.com/group/bmwe34m5/links Registry: http://bmwe34m5.com/registry M5 FAQs: http://bmwe34m5.com/faqs On Feb 1, 2005, at 9:26 PM, Dave Meyer wrote: > Subject says it all. > Strongly considering purchase of E34 M5 as daily driver. > Seeking good sources of info, mailing lists, web sites, etc. > Also interested in leads on well-maintained cars for sale. > Already know how to work Google, Roadfly, etc. > Thanks in advance! > > Dave Meyer ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 18:36:48 -0800 From: "John Kjos" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: WTB E34 M5 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dave, Where do you live? There were 2 '91 M5s in the local paper this weekend. John Kjos '99 540i/6: Dinan S1 (many other mods) '05 X3 3.0L: (stock, orders from mgmt.) Portland, OR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2005 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [UUC] WTB E34 M5 Group Website: http://yahoogroups.com/group/bmwe34m5 BMW Links: http://yahoogroups.com/group/bmwe34m5/links Registry: http://bmwe34m5.com/registry M5 FAQs: http://bmwe34m5.com/faqs On Feb 1, 2005, at 9:26 PM, Dave Meyer wrote: > Subject says it all. > Strongly considering purchase of E34 M5 as daily driver. > Seeking good sources of info, mailing lists, web sites, etc. > Also interested in leads on well-maintained cars for sale. > Already know how to work Google, Roadfly, etc. > Thanks in advance! > > Dave Meyer Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 21:58:19 -0500 From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: WTB E34 M5 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have two customers with Euro 3.8's for sale. #1 is a black on black leather 95. Factory 3.8, 6spd, EDC shocks (needs one front replaced), Nurburgring brakes, Jim C chip, otherwise stock. #2 is 93 or early 94, forget which, 3.8 5spd, black leather, no sunroof car. Both cars have full paperwork. Let me know if you're interested. Brett Anderson KMS > Subject says it all. > Strongly considering purchase of E34 M5 as daily driver. > Seeking good sources of info, mailing lists, web sites, etc. > Also interested in leads on well-maintained cars for sale. > Already know how to work Google, Roadfly, etc. > Thanks in advance! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:21:34 -0600 From: "Dave Swingle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: E39 Engine Problem Challenge Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I've been chasing this for a few days and I'm running out of ideas. 97 E39 528i, 126K miles. Occasionally starts and runs rough, throws check engine light code for "misfire detected cyl 3" which is exactly what it feels like. The problem will clear itself (not the light) after it warms up a while, sometimes after a restart (which also clears the light). I replaced all sparkplugs (they needed it) and the #3 coil pack and lead. I thought this fixed it but it was back today. At this point I'd rather not throw more parts at it without knowing why. Also occasionally get a "catalylist efficiency below threshold cyl 1-3" code, but this has been going on a log longer, very intermittent (sometimes a couple of months apart). It seems unrelated but I thought I'd better mention it. My guess on that one is an O2 sensor getting flaky. All 4 are original. Any ideas/BTDT out there? Dave S ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 23:26:39 -0500 From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E39 Engine Problem Challenge Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Your pre-cat O2 sensors are not functioning when cold, so they can't be the problem. The post O2 sensors should be good for the life of the vehicle, barring manufacturing defects. Replacing coil and spark plug connector was unnecessary, you should have swapped them with another cylinder. Had you done that, and the fault moved to the new cylinder, you'd have known you had a problem with one of these components. The fact that you still have the problem on the same cylinder implies a lifter issue. One, or all, of the lifters on that cylinder may be bleeding down, causing a cold misfire. FWIW, when the system detects misfire, it turns off the fuel injector. It's likely that you don't even notice the original misfire, but once the injector is shut off, it becomes very apparent. Brett Anderson KMS > -----Original Message----- > I've been chasing this for a few days and I'm running out of ideas. > > 97 E39 528i, 126K miles. Occasionally starts and runs rough, throws check > engine light code for "misfire detected cyl 3" which is exactly what it > feels like. The problem will clear itself (not the light) after > it warms up > a while, sometimes after a restart (which also clears the light). > I replaced > all sparkplugs (they needed it) and the #3 coil pack and lead. I thought > this fixed it but it was back today. At this point I'd rather not > throw more > parts at it without knowing why. > > Also occasionally get a "catalylist efficiency below threshold cyl 1-3" > code, but this has been going on a log longer, very intermittent > (sometimes > a couple of months apart). It seems unrelated but I thought I'd better > mention it. My guess on that one is an O2 sensor getting flaky. All 4 are > original. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:19:14 -0800 From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E39 Engine Problem Challenge Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 11:26:39PM -0500, KMS- Brett Anderson wrote: > Your pre-cat O2 sensors are not functioning when cold, so they can't > be the problem. The post O2 sensors should be good for the life of > the vehicle, barring manufacturing defects. That makes me feel a little better about having a 6 cylinder car with 4 O2 sensors. :) > FWIW, when the system detects misfire, it turns off the fuel injector. > It's likely that you don't even notice the original misfire, but once > the injector is shut off, it becomes very apparent. Wow, I didn't know it was so smart, but that's cool. How does it know which cylinder is misfiring? -- "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster." -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 22:30:56 -0800 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E39 Engine Problem Challenge Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Feb 1, 2005, at 10:19 PM, John Bolhuis wrote: >> FWIW, when the system detects misfire, it turns off the fuel injector. >> It's likely that you don't even notice the original misfire, but once >> the injector is shut off, it becomes very apparent. > > Wow, I didn't know it was so smart, but that's cool. How does it know > which cylinder is misfiring? The Injector Elves tell it, of course. C'mon, Bolhuis, try and keep up. - Mark ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 01:56:00 -0500 From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E39 Engine Problem Challenge Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Wow, I didn't know it was so smart, but that's cool. How does it know > which cylinder is misfiring? I really like Mark's reason, but..... The reason OBD II crank sensor "tone rings" were moved from the rubber mounted harmonic balancer to a fixed position on either the crankshaft (6 cylinder) or flywheel (V8/V12) was to give a perfect representation of crank position. Using this crank sensor, the engine management computer can tell exactly where the misfire is, as the crank will actually slow down for a split second. It will watch for it, and if it sees it re-occur, it will take action. The system is so sensitive, that the first thing to check on a manual transmission car is the tyres. Bad tyres can transmit a vibration through the drivetrain, to the crankshaft, and cause false misfire faults. Brett Anderson KMS ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 08:43:56 -0600 From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E39 Engine Problem Challenge Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I will probably never need to know this, being non-mechanically inclined - but you sure can learn lots of technical stuff on this list :-) Thanks Brett! Dennis 01 M5 silver/black At 01:56 AM 02/02/2005 -0500, you wrote: > > Wow, I didn't know it was so smart, but that's cool. How does it know > > which cylinder is misfiring? > >I really like Mark's reason, but..... > >The reason OBD II crank sensor "tone rings" were moved from the rubber >mounted harmonic balancer to a fixed position on either the crankshaft (6 >cylinder) or flywheel (V8/V12) was to give a perfect representation of crank >position. > >Using this crank sensor, the engine management computer can tell exactly >where the misfire is, as the crank will actually slow down for a split >second. It will watch for it, and if it sees it re-occur, it will take >action. > >The system is so sensitive, that the first thing to check on a manual >transmission car is the tyres. Bad tyres can transmit a vibration through >the drivetrain, to the crankshaft, and cause false misfire faults. > >Brett Anderson >KMS > > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 09:21:37 -0800 From: John Bolhuis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E39 Engine Problem Challenge Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Wed, Feb 02, 2005 at 08:43:56AM -0600, Dennis Wynne wrote: > I will probably never need to know this, being non-mechanically inclined - > but you sure can learn lots > of technical stuff on this list :-) > > Thanks Brett! Yes, thanks Brett, I learned something new. Now when I hear a story about "my mechanic first wanted me to buy new tires when I had a rough running engine," I might not think there's a scam going on. ...injector elves indeed. I got my eye on you, Dadgar. -- "It is an honor to be Cookie Monster." -Sesame Street spokeswoman Audrey Shapiro ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 12:01:57 -0800 (PST) From: henry butt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: <E36> What is the "i" designation in 325i ? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What does the "i" designation in 325i mean ? Injection ? My friend asked me but I am not absolutely sure ! Henry __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:27:56 -0500 From: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMW List" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <E36> What is the "i" designation in 325i ? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The "i" designation was originally put on the decklid to mean just that, injection, but it is widely used today and I believe it represents BMW performance in some general way, and no longer refers to fuel injection...as that is obvious in today's cars. The "i" just sort of stuck with the cars. All other letters utilized in BMW's designations stand for a specific thing. x-all wheel drive e-economy s-sport t-touring L-long wheel base c-coupe a-automatic I've never seen the A put on a decklid before, though. Alex Cagann http://www.autoconsortium.com > What does the "i" designation in 325i mean ? Injection > ? My friend asked me but I am not absolutely sure ! > > Henry ------------------------------ Date: 2 Feb 2005 12:10:21 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: <OT> Style Rants Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: WTB E34 M5 > > Subject says it all. > Strongly considering purchase of E34 M5 as daily driver. > Seeking good sources of info, mailing lists, web sites, etc. > Also interested in leads on well-maintained cars for sale. > Already know how to work Google, Roadfly, etc. > Thanks in advance! > ... > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.3 - Release Date: 1/31/2005 If the "Subject says it all", why is it followed by a 17-line message, including a rephrasing of the subject line? Question: > Subject: <E36> EWS2 > > It's not clear from Bentley's description where the transponder is in the > key. It's certainly not in the key holder as this is a simple switch and > bulb there's no potted IC in the case. So is the IC for EWS2 inside the > metal of the key as in the Dallas/Maxim button eprom? Answer: > Subject: Re: <E36> EWS2 > > My SWAG is that it's molded into the plastic key handle. If you don't have anything to add, it's OK not to post. In this example if the answerer had specific knowledge of the chip location, that would be a reason to post. I feel better now. Curt Ingraham 72 2002tii Oakland, CA ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:29:37 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] (bmw list) Subject: E30 radio options Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The stock radio in my E30 just quit on me. Code request yesterday and dead as a doornail today. I guess it is time to replace it. Any suggestions for a radio that doesn't look out of place in a BMW (not green, blue, or other colors, doesn't look like a Salvador Dali painting, and has a knob for volume control). -- Joe -- Joseph M. Krzeszewski Network Operations [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jack of All Trades, Master of None... Yet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:26:59 -0500 From: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMW List" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E30 radio options Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perhaps I'm wrong here, but many factory radio's have a fuse in the back you can replace. I've changed them on VW radio's, and many others. I forget if BMW radios had them in the E30, but I seem to remember. Some have glass fuses you can access from the back, and, like the VW radio's, they have a spade type fuse in the back. Check for this before you replace it. Alex Cagann http://www.autoconsortium.com > The stock radio in my E30 just quit on me. Code request yesterday and dead > as a doornail today. > > I guess it is time to replace it. > > Any suggestions for a radio that doesn't look out of place in a BMW (not > green, blue, or other colors, doesn't look like a Salvador Dali painting, > and has a knob for volume control). > > -- Joe ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
