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Volume 2 : Issue 522 : "text" Format

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  Re: <OT> Style Rants
  Re: <E36> What is the "i" designation in 325i ?
  Re: <E36> What is the "i" designation in 325i ?
  More proof BMW drivers are bad drivers ;-)
  Re: More proof BMW drivers are bad drivers ;-)
  POBox.com filters
  Re: <E36>  What is the "i" designation in 325i ?
  Re: <OT> Style Rants
  177hp "High performance?"
  WTB E34 M5
  Abbreviations
  Re: Abbreviations
  Re: E30 radio options
  Re: E30 radio options
  Re: E30 radio options

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Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:29:20 -0600
From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <OT> Style Rants
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Having a tense day?  Best resolved w/a spirited drive in the car we all 
love: a BMW.

Nothing nasty about my response, the post just hit me at a time when I 
already was laughing about half the attorneys in my county falling for a 
ridiculous (and IMO obvious) make-a-wish foundation hoax.

I appreciate all who post on this list, many providing invaluable 
information, others providing perhaps unintended levity w/the manner of 
the post. But then again, e-mail is a spontaneous form of communication, 
not always subject to comtemplation and editing.

Now remember: drive hard!

Clarence
West Bend, WI

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>>Subject: WTB E34 M5 
>>
>>Subject says it all.
>>Strongly considering purchase of E34 M5 as daily driver.
>>Seeking good sources of info, mailing lists, web sites, etc.
>>Also interested in leads on well-maintained cars for sale.
>>Already know how to work Google, Roadfly, etc.
>>Thanks in advance!
>>...
>>-- 
>>No virus found in this outgoing message.
>>Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.
>>Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.3 - Release Date: 1/31/2005
>>    
>>
>
>If the "Subject says it all", why is it followed by a 17-line 
>message, including a rephrasing of the subject line?
>
>
>Question:
>  
>
>>Subject: <E36> EWS2
>>
>>It's not clear from Bentley's description where the transponder is in the
>>key. It's certainly not in the key holder as this is a simple switch and
>>bulb there's no potted IC in the case. So is the IC for EWS2 inside the
>>metal of the key as in the Dallas/Maxim button eprom?
>>    
>>
>
>Answer:
>  
>
>>Subject: Re: <E36> EWS2
>>
>>My SWAG is that it's molded into the plastic key handle.
>>    
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>
>If you don't have anything to add, it's OK not to post.  In this 
>example if the answerer had specific knowledge of the chip location, 
>that would be a reason to post.
>
>I feel better now.
>
>Curt Ingraham
>72 2002tii
>Oakland, CA
>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>  
>


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Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:32:49 +0000
From: "Gilbert Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E36> What is the "i" designation in 325i ?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Alex wrote:

>x-all wheel drive
>e-economy
>s-sport
>t-touring
>L-long wheel base
>c-coupe
>a-automatic
>
>I've never seen the A put on a decklid before, though.

I have seen "automatic" on a decklid though. "L" also means light "CSL" or 
luxury "L7."

Gilbert



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Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:39:56 -0600
From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Gilbert Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <E36> What is the "i" designation in 325i ?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I, too; on older models when an automatic was an expensive option and 
considered, perhaps, a novelty.  I recently spoke w/an individual 
wanting to sell a '74 CS which has an automatic; he quoted me how much 
extra that option was new.

Clarence
West Bend, WI

Gilbert Hoffman wrote:

> I have seen "automatic" on a decklid though. "L" also means light 
> "CSL" or luxury "L7."
>
> Gilbert



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Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 15:53:12 -0500
From: Carey Probst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: E36M3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
Subject: More proof BMW drivers are bad drivers ;-)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

    Wednesday, Feb. 2, 2005
*Crash-Prone Police Deny They're Bad Drivers*
        
         

 
        

BERLIN (Reuters) - Berlin police rejected accusations Wednesday that 
their high-powered cars made them bad drivers, despite causing nearly 
400 collisions, including 21 vehicles totaled, in two years.


Opposition leaders said the sharp accident rise coincided with police 
adding 260 high-performance BMWs to their fleet in 2002.


"You can't say Berlin police are bad drivers based on those statistics," 
a police spokesman said. "You have to differentiate. Some of those 
incidents were merely a wing mirror breaking off or a dented bumper."


Berlin newspapers suggested the accident numbers were so high because 
police were insufficiently trained to drive the 177-horsepower cars. 
Either that, or they were just bad drivers.


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Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 15:26:39 -0600
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: More proof BMW drivers are bad drivers ;-)
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

177hp = "high performance" ?

Must be some German conversion factor I am not aware of.

LEOs in the US had a lot of accidents when they started getting the new (at 
the time) baby whale Chevy Caprice
cop cars. Most had no experience with ABS and either didn't know how to use 
it properly and/or thought ABS could
suspend or bend the laws of physics.

Dennis
01 M5 silver/black

At 03:53 PM 02/02/2005 -0500, you wrote:
>Berlin newspapers suggested the accident numbers were so high because 
>police were insufficiently trained to drive the 177-horsepower cars. 
>Either that, or they were just bad drivers.


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Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 14:58:38 -0600
From: Dennis Wynne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: POBox.com filters
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

My UUC mail has been pretty thin lately - then I checked my POBOX [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
filters and found lot of UUC messages stuck there.

Seems when you "whitelist" a UUC message you are whitelisting that single 
message - not the list.  I asked the POBox
folks for help and here is what I got back. So if you have a POBox account 
you will need to release a message after this
fix has been placed to get the UUC mail through.

Of course, it is likely that THIS message is caught in the filter as well - 
so you will not see it :-)

Dennis
01 M5 silver/black


This email address has been getting caught consistently by
our Spam Protection even though you have requested
whitelisting for the address due to the fact that each time
the address sends your Pobox.com account a message, it sends
the email using a unique (and normally hidden) envelope
sender address.  Thus, each time you release an email from
this sender, you are whitelisting a unique address.

We have made a special exception for this mailing list such
that if you release a message from this mailing list again,
after the whitelist process, all email from the mailing
list should then go directly to you forwarding address.



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Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:06:40 -0500
From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E36>  What is the "i" designation in 325i ?
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Alex wrote:

>The "i" designation was originally put on the decklid to mean just that,
injection, but it is widely used today and I believe it represents BMW
performance in some general way, and no longer refers to fuel injection...as
that is obvious in today's cars.  The "i" just sort of stuck with the cars.
All other letters utilized in BMW's designations stand for a specific thing.
x-all wheel drive e-economy s-sport t-touring L-long wheel base c-coupe
a-automatic
_____________________

I agree, I think the "i" stands for "injection", though, but probably a
German word that's close - way, way speculating here.  BMW still uses the
"i" on its GASOLINE engines.  For DIESEL engines, BMW has used "d".  And "t"
too for TURBO, as in 524td - 2.4 liter turbo diesel.  Currently, turbo
diesel BMWs are just "d", as "T" is used for "Touring".  

FWIW, Mercedes used to have "e" stand for the gasoline models ("espritz"?
"Einspritzung"?), and used "d" for diesel - that was before "E" became a
"class" for MB.

Oh, and the BMW "e", while it does denote "economy", actually stands for
"eta" (Greek letter?), which was a low-rev, high-torque motor designed for
fuel economy.  

HTH,

--Dennis



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Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:09:20 -0600
From: Jamie Howton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: <OT> Style Rants
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Thanks for your 40 line diatribe that contributed exactly nothing to
the subject at hand.

I feel better now too...

-- 
Jamie Howton
2002 330i
2000 M5
1995 M3
Hampshire, IL

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Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:15:10 -0500
From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected], E36M3 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: 177hp "High performance?"
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Get that everyone? 177 HP...High performance!

Are we spoiled?

Marc Plante
E36M3/4 61k (Not fast enough)
Vienna, VA

> Berlin newspapers suggested the accident numbers were so high 
> because police were insufficiently trained to drive the 
> 177-horsepower cars. Either that, or they were just bad drivers.
> 



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Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 13:18:41 -0800 (PST)
From: kjk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: WTB E34 M5
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Join the Yahoo Group: BMW E34 M5. That's where we all
hang out. Also, check out www.bmwe34m5.com FAQ's.

Kevin Kelly
'91 M5 (210,000, 129k with me as my daily driver)


                
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Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:22:44 -0600 
From: "Roberts, Clarence H Mr TACOM-RI" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "UUC Digest (E-mail)" <[email protected]>
Subject: Abbreviations
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> What does the "i" designation in 325i mean ? Injection
> ? My friend asked me but I am not absolutely sure !
>
> Henry

The i has numerous meanings, with injection being only one.  Before 2002s
BMW made an 1800ti which was not fuel injected and an 1800tii which was?  By
the way, neither of them were -T- turbocharged. 

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Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 16:36:38 -0500
From: "Alex Cagann" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BMW List" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Abbreviations
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Holy cripes...you are right. I forgot all about those. Yep, those were
neither turbocharged nor fuel injected. So what does this mean?  Hell, I
don't know. Perhaps the meaning of life is easier to explain that the
meaning of "i". I think the new 7 and 5 series should be called the 745ib
and 545ib after their controversial design chief.

Alex Cagann
http://www.autoconsortium.com

> The i has numerous meanings, with injection being only one.  Before 2002s
> BMW made an 1800ti which was not fuel injected and an 1800tii
> which was?  By
> the way, neither of them were -T- turbocharged.
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]



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Date: 2 Feb 2005 13:27:32 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [email protected]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: E30 radio options
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

The Pioneer KE-83zbm is one of the BMW radios used in E30 cars, and 
it does have its own fuse -- in the connector area as I recall.  This 
is the radio with the +/MODE/- buttons for controlling tone, balance, 
and fade; code anti-theft protection; cassette player; and weather 
band.  

Given the two-step failure of your radio, a blown fuse seems unlikely,
but it's easy to check.

Curt Ingraham
72 2002tii
Oakland, CA

Joe wrote:

> The stock radio in my E30 just quit on me. Code request yesterday 
> and dead as a doornail today.
> 
> I guess it is time to replace it.
> 
> Any suggestions for a radio that doesn't look out of place in a BMW (not
> green, blue, or other colors, doesn't look like a Salvador Dali painting,
> and has a knob for volume control).

And Alex answered:

> Perhaps I'm wrong here, but many factory radio's have a fuse in the back you
> can replace. I've changed them on VW radio's, and many others. I forget if
> BMW radios had them in the E30, but I seem to remember. Some have glass
> fuses you can access from the back, and, like the VW radio's, they have a
> spade type fuse in the back. Check for this before you replace it.

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Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 16:33:28 -0500
From: Steve Nash <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: E30 radio options
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I think the Nakamichi CD400 is the best OEM look on the market.

-Steve

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> The Pioneer KE-83zbm is one of the BMW radios used in E30 cars, and 
> it does have its own fuse -- in the connector area as I recall.  This 
> is the radio with the +/MODE/- buttons for controlling tone, balance, 
> and fade; code anti-theft protection; cassette player; and weather 
> band.  
> 
> Given the two-step failure of your radio, a blown fuse seems unlikely,
> but it's easy to check.
> 
> Curt Ingraham
> 72 2002tii
> Oakland, CA
> 
> Joe wrote:


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Date: Wed, 2 Feb 2005 15:36:11 -0600
From: "Paul Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: E30 radio options
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Any suggestions for a radio that doesn't look out of place in a BMW?

Yes, I have one, though the idea came to me from Peter Wheeler. I
installed a Clarion DXZ745MP deck in my 325ic and am very pleased.  The
unit can do 700 and some colors so matching the lights is not an issue
(there is also a 645 unit for a few bucks less with a few less bells and
whistles).  The display keeps defaulting back to some random
flash/matrix thing, but since it is not overly bright and it mesmerizes
my son,I don't mind.  It sounds good through the stock speakers and
plays MP3's.  And it has a knob for the volume control.

Regards,
Paul Craven
93 325ic with 140 plus 80's hairband and miscellaneous tunes in the
player...


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