The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 826 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: <E36> Do I really need to remove the speakers? Re: <E36> Do I really need to remove the speakers? Re: <E36> Do I really need to remove the speakers? Re: <E36> Do I really need to remove the speakers? Re: <E36> Do I really need to remove the speakers? Re: <E36> Do I really need to remove the speakers? Re: <FS> <E36M3> Koni SA fronts installed in strut housings - Sorry for WOB (EOM) Need one E36 M3 8.5" M Contour wheel Re: <E36> Do I really need to remove the speakers? Re. E34 Touring acceleration shudder Re: Re. E34 Touring acceleration shudder Passenger Seat Occupancy Sensor Pad FW: <FS> <E36M3> Koni SA fronts installed in strut housings - used e30 M3 trunk Shock
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 17:15:10 -0500 From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> Do I really need to remove the speakers? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kazuto Okayasu wrote: > At 10:11 AM 10/4/2005, Gary Derian wrote: > <snip> > I now have upside-down mount aftermarket stuff. > Do you know is something similar is available for the E34 Touring. Everything else has been addressed on ours, and eventually we'll need to do the rear shocks. Clarence West Bend, WI ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 16:47:43 -0700 From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> Do I really need to remove the speakers? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 03:15 PM 10/4/2005, Clarence wrote: Are rear shock mounts a weakness on the E34? The 3ers have a two-decade-plus legacy of crappy rear shock mounts (the same OE part 'redesigned' over and over again through 3 chassis) so there are a lot of aftermarket cures for this ill. >Kazuto Okayasu wrote: >>At 10:11 AM 10/4/2005, Gary Derian wrote: ><snip> > >>I now have upside-down mount aftermarket stuff. > >Do you know is something similar is available for the E34 Touring. >Everything else has been addressed on ours, and eventually we'll >need to do the rear shocks. > >Clarence >West Bend, WI Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 20:10:46 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]>, "Kazuto Okayasu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: <E36> Do I really need to remove the speakers? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No. The E34 has the spring around the shock. The mount is completely different than the 3 series part. The spring covers the mounting bols. It is not reasonably possible to attach it from the bottom. Gary Derian > At 03:15 PM 10/4/2005, Clarence wrote: > > Are rear shock mounts a weakness on the E34? The 3ers have a > two-decade-plus legacy of crappy rear shock mounts (the same OE part > 'redesigned' over and over again through 3 chassis) so there are a lot of > aftermarket cures for this ill. > >>Kazuto Okayasu wrote: >>>At 10:11 AM 10/4/2005, Gary Derian wrote: >><snip> >> >>>I now have upside-down mount aftermarket stuff. >> >>Do you know is something similar is available for the E34 Touring. >>Everything else has been addressed on ours, and eventually we'll need to >>do the rear shocks. >> >>Clarence >>West Bend, WI > > Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services > Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:08:00 -0500 From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> Do I really need to remove the speakers? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perhaps my misunderstanding. I was referring to the shocks themselves, not just the shock mounts. I've read some that a lot of interior parts must be removed to get at the top of the shock for replacement. I haven't given the mount itself any thought. Clarence West Bend, WI Kazuto Okayasu wrote: > At 03:15 PM 10/4/2005, Clarence wrote: > > Are rear shock mounts a weakness on the E34? The 3ers have a > two-decade-plus legacy of crappy rear shock mounts (the same OE part > 'redesigned' over and over again through 3 chassis) so there are a lot > of aftermarket cures for this ill. > >> Kazuto Okayasu wrote: >> >>> At 10:11 AM 10/4/2005, Gary Derian wrote: >> >> <snip> >> >>> I now have upside-down mount aftermarket stuff. >> >> >> Do you know is something similar is available for the E34 Touring. >> Everything else has been addressed on ours, and eventually we'll need >> to do the rear shocks. >> >> Clarence >> West Bend, WI > > > Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services > Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 23:00:10 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Clarence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <E36> Do I really need to remove the speakers? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In a sedan, pull the rear seat and the package shelf slides forward. In a touring far more of the interior gets disassembled. Gary Derian > Perhaps my misunderstanding. I was referring to the shocks themselves, not > just the shock mounts. I've read some that a lot of interior parts must > be removed to get at the top of the shock for replacement. I haven't > given the mount itself any thought. > > Clarence > West Bend, WI > > Kazuto Okayasu wrote: >> At 03:15 PM 10/4/2005, Clarence wrote: >> >> Are rear shock mounts a weakness on the E34? The 3ers have a >> two-decade-plus legacy of crappy rear shock mounts (the same OE part >> 'redesigned' over and over again through 3 chassis) so there are a lot of >> aftermarket cures for this ill. >> >>> Kazuto Okayasu wrote: >>> >>>> At 10:11 AM 10/4/2005, Gary Derian wrote: >>> >>> <snip> >>> >>>> I now have upside-down mount aftermarket stuff. >>> >>> >>> Do you know is something similar is available for the E34 Touring. >>> Everything else has been addressed on ours, and eventually we'll need to >>> do the rear shocks. >>> >>> Clarence >>> West Bend, WI >> >> >> Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services >> Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Search the >> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________________ >> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. >> >> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >> > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 09:30:32 -0400 (EDT) From: "Steve.Goldstein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <E36> Do I really need to remove the speakers? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks to all who replied via this list and by private email. I have the fold-down seats but also the HK speakers, so I'm now mentally prepared to remove the speakers in case I can't get in simply by folding down the rear seats. And special thanks to Jim for the tip about my need to buy new tools, specifically 16mm and 18mm sockets. Can I use standard depth for the 16 or do I need a deep one? I know the 18 need not be anything special. This list is great! Steve ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 19:46:11 -0500 From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <FS> <E36M3> Koni SA fronts installed in strut housings - Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OK, I'll take them if you still have them. When you said "Freshened your suspension," it bugged me since Koni's aren't supposed to wear out. If nothing else, I suppose you've done the surgery for new inserts. Did you track that car? or was it just a street ride? Let me know and i'll work through delivery logistics with you. Marc Plante 1997 E36 M3/4 (67k)[prolly needs fresh shocks] 2005 child (will probably delay the install for a while) Vienna, VA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Bassett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] <FS> <E36M3> Koni SA fronts installed in strut housings - used Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 12:52:58 -0700 (PDT) > > Hi All, > > I've finallized the refreshening of the M3's suspension, using all stock > components, so I have the front struts available, if anyone is interested. > > $100/OBO + shipping (if applicable). > > Details here: > http://www.justracing.com/classified/152 > > Cheers, > Jim Bassett > 1998 M3/4 > 1993 325is #44 JP > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 20:14:10 -0500 From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Sorry for WOB (EOM) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 23:06:46 -0400 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Subject: Need one E36 M3 8.5" M Contour wheel Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject line says most of it. Wheel does not have to be cosmetically perfect, just straight. If you've got two of these, or even an entire staggered set, would we willing to consider buying all if the price is right... but mostly, need one rear. Let me know whatcha got and how much dough you need, please e-mail me directly: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Rob ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 23:29:37 -0700 From: Rex Tener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Cc: Rex Tener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: <E36> Do I really need to remove the speakers? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 09:43 AM 10/4/2005 -0700, Jim Bassett wrote: >On Tue, October 4, 2005 8:41 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: > >You can't peel the carpet back and get to the fasteners that hold the > > tops of the rear shocks in unless you remove the speakers. > >That wasn't the case on my M3 (non-HK speakers). I just went through *2* >rear shock changes in the last 4 weeks (don't ask :-)), as well as >accessing them several times in the past, never once having to remove the >rear speakers. The standard M3 speakers changed size sometime between 1995 and 1996 production. My 4/95 production 1995 M3 had to have the rear speakers removed to change or adjust shocks. My 6/96 production 1996 M3 does not have to have the rear speakers removed to change or adjust shocks. I have down this about 40 times over the years, so I have got it down to just a few minutes on the 1996 M3 and maybe ten minutes or so on the 1995 M3. -- Rex Tener [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 08:35:45 -0500 From: "Andrew Harkonen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUCDigest" <[email protected]> Subject: Re. E34 Touring acceleration shudder Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kevin wrote: Andrew, Drive line u-joints gone bad. Especially prominent when in a low gear and accellerating hard. You feel it under the seat or just behind you. -Kevin Kevin, I feel it under the seat, behind me, all over. I will have to drive it again and see if the shudder is more prominent in a particular area. Assuming Kevin is correct, and I need new u-joints, am I looking at a rebuilt drive shaft from a specialist (place in Pacific NW comes to mind) or has anyone had their drive shaft rebuilt locally by a competent machine shop? Also, are there any "while you have the drive shaft out...." items that I should look at? Thanks. Andrew Harkonen 1989 535i 5 spd. 1993 525iT -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 168 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 13:36:47 -0500 From: "BMWBits" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Andrew Harkonen'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'UUCDigest'" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Re. E34 Touring acceleration shudder Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ALWAYS replace the centre bearing (Most likely what is causing your problem ) AND the guibo while driveshaft is out -it is poitless not to as they are both right there and the labour is most of the cost .Do them BEFORE buying a new driveshaft ... Bill Proud -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Harkonen Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 8:36 AM To: UUCDigest Subject: [UUC] Re. E34 Touring acceleration shudder Kevin wrote: Andrew, Drive line u-joints gone bad. Especially prominent when in a low gear and accellerating hard. You feel it under the seat or just behind you. -Kevin Kevin, I feel it under the seat, behind me, all over. I will have to drive it again and see if the shudder is more prominent in a particular area. Assuming Kevin is correct, and I need new u-joints, am I looking at a rebuilt drive shaft from a specialist (place in Pacific NW comes to mind) or has anyone had their drive shaft rebuilt locally by a competent machine shop? Also, are there any "while you have the drive shaft out...." items that I should look at? Thanks. Andrew Harkonen 1989 535i 5 spd. 1993 525iT -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 168 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now! Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ __ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 12:58:31 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Passenger Seat Occupancy Sensor Pad Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Finally ditching my stock seats in favor of Cobra Imola racing shells and Schroth 6-pt harnesses (plus a 4-pt Mark McMahon rollbar). Am planning to keep stock belts and would like to retain functioning of airbag system. To do so, I need to put an occupancy sensor pad under the passenger seat cushion. Rather than trying to remove the existing occupancy sensor pad from the stock seat -- which I'm sure is a pita -- I'm looking to simply get a replacement. I've been unable to find part number/source. Can anyone help? TIA. Neil Simon 99 M Coupe DC tags MDORPHN ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:13:03 -0400 From: "JohnGrills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: FW: <FS> <E36M3> Koni SA fronts installed in strut housings - used Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jim, I'll take them off your hands. I'm in VA 22301. Let me know how much for shipping. John Grills 98 M3/4 88 M3 87 iC -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jim Bassett Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 3:53 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] <FS> <E36M3> Koni SA fronts installed in strut housings - used Hi All, I've finallized the refreshening of the M3's suspension, using all stock components, so I have the front struts available, if anyone is interested. $100/OBO + shipping (if applicable). Details here: http://www.justracing.com/classified/152 Cheers, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 1993 325is #44 JP Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 14:30:57 -0400 From: "JohnGrills" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: e30 M3 trunk Shock Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gruppe: I'm tired of having my trunk lid drop on my head all the time. Does anyone know an aftermarket source for the trunk shock for an e30 M3? I guess I can always go to the dealer... Cheers! John Grills 98 M3/4 88 M3 87 iC ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
