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  Crazy endurance racing...
  Re: Crazy endurance racing...
  Re: Crazy endurance racing...
  Re: Crazy endurance racing...
  Re: Crazy endurance racing...
  Blower motor E36
  Re: Blower motor E36
  Re: Resetting oil service light (e46) OT
  <E30> non start in cold weather
  Re: <E30> non start in cold weather

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Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 15:48:10 -0800
From: Brian Ghidinelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Crazy endurance racing...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Just back from the 25 hours of Thunderhill endurance race this weekend. 
  A number of folks from this list were at the event participating in 
various ways.  Although not a BMW, I helped crew on a Subaru WRX (3rd 
place overall) and saw a lot of my CCA club racing friends there.  The 
SSF Autoparts E36 M3 took 2nd place overall and first was a Porsche. 
There is coverage with video and pics in a few places:

<http://www.justracing.com/25Hour>
<http://www.caranddriver.com/article.asp?article_id=10378>
<http://jkana.blogspot.com/>
<http://www.ghidinelli.com/go/2005/12/01/gearing-up-for-thunderhill/>

If you haven't done endurance racing, try volunteering to help crew next 
year for a race near you.  Staying up for 30 hours straight *and* 
performing 4am mechanical repairs with precision takes it out of you - 
but what an experience!


Brian

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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 19:19:00 -0800 (PST)
From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Brian Ghidinelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Crazy endurance racing...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

--- Brian Ghidinelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If you haven't done endurance racing, try volunteering to help >crew
next year for a race near you.  Staying up for 30 hours >straight *and*
performing 4am mechanical repairs with precision >takes it out of you
but what an experience!

Don't you rotate the crew to get some rest?

Tammer F. and I helped crew in the 13 hour race at VIR for Tom P.
(they're both on this list).  Tammer, Tom and I started the day at
6:00am (wrenching) and ended it at about midnight once everything was
packed up and we had thrown down a couple of brewhas.  I couldn't
imagine throwing another 12 hours into this unless I managed to get
some sleep in there, I was wiped out.

Out of curiosity how long were your pit stops?  The winners at VIR
(Bimmerworld) would do 1.5 - 2 minute pit stops and during a full
course yellow they changed front pads and got it all done in a 4 minute
window.  Ours were quite a bit longer due to the fueling (no dry brake)
and the driver changes, tire changes were done within the time fueling
and drivers swapped seats.  I believe next year the stops will be
quicker.

Carlos.
(still a newb but appreciates these long races even more now)


                
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Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 20:20:05 -0800
From: Brian Ghidinelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Crazy endurance racing...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Carlos Lopez wrote:
> Don't you rotate the crew to get some rest?

That was the theory at one point but you know how things go... :)

> packed up and we had thrown down a couple of brewhas.  I couldn't
> imagine throwing another 12 hours into this unless I managed to get
> some sleep in there, I was wiped out.

Running a boosted turbo (WRX STI) we were getting about 5 mpg so we 
could run around 1:45 on our tank running 2:02-2:05s at Thunderhill 
(with the bypass).  We qualified 4th but the team that won qualified 
12th... it's not all about speed.

Between stops, I got about 3 30 minute naps during the night.  Combined 
with a bunch of red bull and hand warmers, we passed the early morning. 
  Once the sun comes back up, it gets easier.

> Out of curiosity how long were your pit stops?  The winners at VIR
> (Bimmerworld) would do 1.5 - 2 minute pit stops and during a full
> course yellow they changed front pads and got it all done in a 4 minute
> window.  Ours were quite a bit longer due to the fueling (no dry brake)
> and the driver changes, tire changes were done within the time fueling
> and drivers swapped seats.  I believe next year the stops will be
> quicker.

With NASA, you can't do any mechanical work under a yellow so you 
basically don't pit during a yellow.  Kind of bizarre but I suppose it 
prevents everyone diving into the pits and causing safety issues.

Driver changes and fueling were ~40 seconds (25 gallons via dry brake 
system) and we had a 4AM stop where we changed all four pads, all four 
tires, driver change, radio change and oil top-off in 3:37.  Air jacks 
could shave another 20-30 seconds I bet.

To cap it off, I just heard that (NASCAR) Tony Stewart ponied up to 
donate money for each lap we completed to the Sam Schmidt Racing to 
Recovery program.  Neat stuff!


Brian

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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:06:02 -0800
From: "Marco Romani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Crazy endurance racing...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

By some quirk of fate ( and some $$) I had the privilege, and I stress the
word privilege, to be one of the co-drivers on Brian's team.  He and the
rest of the crew headed up by Marshall Pruett were just amazing.  Top notch.
Amazing performance by a bunch of guys that really hadn't worked together as
a team until Friday of the race weekend.  By about the 3rd pit stop you'd
have thought you were watching a pro-team.  Those guys really were amazing
and that weekend is going down in my "Top Ten" list of things that I will
remember for the rest of my life.

I am truly lucky to have had the chance to drive for those guys.  Any
luckily I didn't f&*k it up.  ;-)

Marco

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Brian Ghidinelli
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 8:20 PM
To: Carlos Lopez
Cc: UUC Digest
Subject: Re: [UUC] Crazy endurance racing...



Carlos Lopez wrote:
> Don't you rotate the crew to get some rest?

That was the theory at one point but you know how things go... :)

> packed up and we had thrown down a couple of brewhas.  I couldn't
> imagine throwing another 12 hours into this unless I managed to get
> some sleep in there, I was wiped out.

Running a boosted turbo (WRX STI) we were getting about 5 mpg so we
could run around 1:45 on our tank running 2:02-2:05s at Thunderhill
(with the bypass).  We qualified 4th but the team that won qualified
12th... it's not all about speed.

Between stops, I got about 3 30 minute naps during the night.  Combined
with a bunch of red bull and hand warmers, we passed the early morning.
  Once the sun comes back up, it gets easier.

> Out of curiosity how long were your pit stops?  The winners at VIR
> (Bimmerworld) would do 1.5 - 2 minute pit stops and during a full
> course yellow they changed front pads and got it all done in a 4 minute
> window.  Ours were quite a bit longer due to the fueling (no dry brake)
> and the driver changes, tire changes were done within the time fueling
> and drivers swapped seats.  I believe next year the stops will be
> quicker.

With NASA, you can't do any mechanical work under a yellow so you
basically don't pit during a yellow.  Kind of bizarre but I suppose it
prevents everyone diving into the pits and causing safety issues.

Driver changes and fueling were ~40 seconds (25 gallons via dry brake
system) and we had a 4AM stop where we changed all four pads, all four
tires, driver change, radio change and oil top-off in 3:37.  Air jacks
could shave another 20-30 seconds I bet.

To cap it off, I just heard that (NASCAR) Tony Stewart ponied up to
donate money for each lap we completed to the Sam Schmidt Racing to
Recovery program.  Neat stuff!


Brian

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Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:12:49 -0800
From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Crazy endurance racing...
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

On Dec 5, 2005, at 9:06 PM, Marco Romani wrote:
> By some quirk of fate ( and some $$) I had the privilege, and I  
> stress the
> word privilege, to be one of the co-drivers on Brian's team.  He  
> and the
> rest of the crew headed up by Marshall Pruett were just amazing.   
> Top notch.
> Amazing performance by a bunch of guys that really hadn't worked  
> together as
> a team until Friday of the race weekend.  By about the 3rd pit stop  
> you'd
> have thought you were watching a pro-team.  Those guys really were  
> amazing
> and that weekend is going down in my "Top Ten" list of things that  
> I will
> remember for the rest of my life.

Agreed!  This was in my Top 10 as well.

Unbelievable effort from an amazing bunch of people.  One of the few  
teams I've ever been a part of that was completely without a weak link.

- Mark
   Team ART/ESX/C&D/TC Design/JustRacing.com
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Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 16:17:37 -0700
From: Wendall Siemens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Blower motor E36
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Does anyone know the best way to change the blower motor in a 92 E36 325i? 
I've had enough trouble just getting the lid out of there leave alone the motor 
and fans.

There must be a trick or at least a list of what must come off the top of the 
engine to do this. My Hayes POS shows pictures of the blower beside the hole 
clearly showing that it doesn't fit through although the description says just 
to pull it out.

TIA
Wendall


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Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 21:57:29 -0500
From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Wendall Siemens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Blower motor E36
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Do not attempt during cold weather......

The factory blowers used to come with one cage off.  The cages are 
indexed to the shaft, so would be balanced, then dismantled, prior to 
shipping to the dealer.

We used to cut one cage off the old motor and remove it, then assemble 
the new motor in situ.

You could always unbolt the front sub frame and jack the body up off the 
motor. You only need about 1.5 inches.

The squirrel cages are quite flexible on new fans, as long as ambient 
temp is not too low.  It's risky, but they can be squeezed into the hole.

Brett Anderson
KMS-Koala Motorsport
www.bmwdiffs.com
9988 Kinsman Rd
Novelty, OH 44072
(Near Cleveland)



Wendall Siemens wrote:
> Does anyone know the best way to change the blower motor in a 92 E36 325i? 
> I've had enough trouble just getting the lid out of there leave alone the 
> motor and fans.
> 
> There must be a trick or at least a list of what must come off the top of the 
> engine to do this. My Hayes POS shows pictures of the blower beside the hole 
> clearly showing that it doesn't fit through although the description says 
> just to pull it out.

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Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:49:14 -1000
From: Jay G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Resetting oil service light (e46) OT
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

in a pinch, i've used paper clips...worked fine for me...

Gilbert Hoffman wrote:

> I "built" my own reset tool from instruction on the web or from 
> Roundel. Works on my E30 and E46. Cost about $5. Don't know of any 
> non-tool resets.


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Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 09:37:25 -0600
From: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: <E30> non start in cold weather
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Ol' faithful's getting tired. It's an '87 325is.

Car had been running well. Temps are now in the single digits.  Trip to 
work is under 5 miles and car doesn't get to warm up very well. Had 
driven it for 1.5 hours on Saturday then parked it until Monday.

Last night after work it started OK but died when I depressed the 
throttle more than a little.  It idled rough though it was possible to 
rev it in neutral w/only a little hesitation. Being very gentle, I could 
drive the car up to about 2K rpms, but the moment I pushed the pedal a 
little more, it acted like it was instantly dying.

I drove about a little on side streets hoping that warming it up would 
help a bit.  I was able to get the rpms a little higher (on a level or 
going down hill), but the problem of no power and choking when the pedal 
was pushed persisted.

This morning it would not start. It would catch a moment and I could 
feel it was very rough and then die.

Cap, rotor, and plugs were new this spring; plug wires replaced in last 
8 years and seem good (not tested).  Didn't see or feel any loose wires 
when I looked at it last night.

I have no heat or lights in the garage (at least I have that) and so 
working on it is a bear in this weather.

Looking for thoughts on what I should check first or what it may be.

TIA

Clarence
West Bend, WI



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Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 11:01:29 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Clarence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: UUC Digest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: <E30> non start in cold weather
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

     Could be wear on the carbon band in the Air Flow Meter.  With temps 
getting that low that could be showing up a problem that might not 
appear otherwise in warmer weather  for another few hundred to few 
thousand miles.
The problem is that the copper arm might be contracting enough to not 
make contact where the band has more wear.
     One way to diagnose if this is happening is if the tach needle 
drops to zero when the engine cuts out, indicating no spark.
     If you can get the car into a warmer space, above freezing if 
possible, than if its the silly cold temps causing the problem, it may 
start.
     Else, possibly prying up the air flow meter's plastic cap and using 
a blow dryer to warm up the copper arm and carbon band may help.  Be 
sure to use a dab use silicon rubber to reseal the plastic cap.
To test if its the AFM, first, check for spark while cranking.  If nos 
park, then with the cap off, while an assistant tries to start the car, 
notice the copper arm move along the band as the engine cranks.  Gently 
press a fingertip down on the copper contact point against the carbon 
band and see if the car wants to catch.
     For a way to rework the carbon arm so it makes good contact again, 
see an old article I wrote:
http://normgrills.net/bcg/Injection.html#anchor41563757
     Another possibility could be the coolant temperature switch.  These 
are inexpensive and easy to replace, and many go bad by 200k miles, so 
could be worth replacing now.
hth,
Barry


Clarence wrote:

> Ol' faithful's getting tired. It's an '87 325is.
>
> Car had been running well. Temps are now in the single digits.  Trip 
> to work is under 5 miles and car doesn't get to warm up very well. Had 
> driven it for 1.5 hours on Saturday then parked it until Monday.
>
> Last night after work it started OK but died when I depressed the 
> throttle more than a little.  It idled rough though it was possible to 
> rev it in neutral w/only a little hesitation. Being very gentle, I 
> could drive the car up to about 2K rpms, but the moment I pushed the 
> pedal a little more, it acted like it was instantly dying.
>
> I drove about a little on side streets hoping that warming it up would 
> help a bit.  I was able to get the rpms a little higher (on a level or 
> going down hill), but the problem of no power and choking when the 
> pedal was pushed persisted.
>
> This morning it would not start. It would catch a moment and I could 
> feel it was very rough and then die.
>
> Cap, rotor, and plugs were new this spring; plug wires replaced in 
> last 8 years and seem good (not tested).  Didn't see or feel any loose 
> wires when I looked at it last night.
>
> I have no heat or lights in the garage (at least I have that) and so 
> working on it is a bear in this weather.
>
> Looking for thoughts on what I should check first or what it may be.
>
> TIA
>
> Clarence
> West Bend, WI
>
>
> Search the 
> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________ 
>
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>
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> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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>

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