The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 804 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: FS: 2000 528iT sports package Looking for e36 front/rear shocks, struts, springs, and mounts Re: Looking for e36 front/rear shocks, struts, springs, and mounts Re: Looking for e36 front/rear shocks, struts, springs, and mounts Re: Looking for e36 front/rear shocks, struts, springs, and mounts Re: Looking for e36 front/rear shocks, struts, springs, and mounts Re: e30 Brake lining warning light... E36 M3 Purchase Re: E36 M3 Purchase (WTB) Aluminum Trailer
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:22:30 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMW List" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: FS: 2000 528iT sports package Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Howdy, all, finally gotten around to taking some pictures, in response to requests for a couple of interested parties, so I thought I'd share (especially as how the exterior shots did come out kinda good :-) http://www.photoworks.com/share/shareLanding.jsp?shareCode=A1B0B63BE45&cb=PW vty, --Dennis -----Original Message----- From: Dennis Liu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 12:14 PM To: BMW List ([email protected]) Subject: FS: 2000 528iT sports package Ok, ok, mea culpa, I've been kinda sorta threatening to sell this wagon for some time now, but the giant Family Truckster (first 2006 model year Nissan Armada) we ordered is finally here (in yet another demonstration of my remarkable market timing - yep, NOW get a giant SUV with bad gas mileage), so it's time to sell the sportwagon. Six vehicles for two adults is just ridiculous, not to mention the complete dearth of room to park everything, so . . . . It's a 2000 BMW 528iT sportwagon that I bought as a present to my wife two years ago (when she refused to get a mini-van). We're the 2nd owner, 59,800 miles, silver/black, excellent condition inside and out. Options include Sport package (inc. sport seats, M-steering wheel, sport suspension, shadowline sport trim, 17" BBS wheels), Steptronic transmission, heated seats, rain sensing wipers, self-leveling rear suspension, electrochromatic rear view mirror, metallic paint, power moonroof, premium audio system, rear side airbags, compact disc changer, and maybe one or two other options I've forgotten, though no ski sack for some reason. I also have a spare set of wheels with snow tires mounted. All services done and up to date. According to Edmunds.com, the wagon is worth $17,075 on trade-in, $19,183 as a private party sale, and $21,670 if one were to buy from a dealer. The Kelly Blue Book is broader, but the midpoint is close: $16,700, $20,180 and $24,115, respectively. First reasonable offer takes it, or else it gets traded in when I pick up the Truckster. Let me know if you're interested! (and/or if anyone has a good opinion on what it's worth, let me know.) Thanks, --Dennis West of Boston 2000 528iT 1995 740iL 1995 F355 Berlinetta 1995 F355 Challenge 1999 Porsche 911 Carrera 2006 Nissan Armada tow vehicle and baby schlepper ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 08:21:47 -0700 (PDT) From: P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: BMW List <[email protected]> Subject: Looking for e36 front/rear shocks, struts, springs, and mounts Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yup, it is time to replace the sorry factory springs/shocks/struts on my 96 328i. Does anyone have any cheap shocks/struts/springs (preferably not stock ones, I've already got them :)? I also probably need to replace the rear mounts, so I'll need them too. I don't know how much longer I'm going to hold onto this car, so I don't want to dump lots of money into it. Having said that, I don't want to put crap on it either. Email me off line with what you've got. Thanks, Paul __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:09:40 -0400 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Looking for e36 front/rear shocks, struts, springs, and mounts Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Paul, I have to ask... what's wrong with the springs? If the answer is 'nothing', I'd say just get (new) two front struts, two rear shocks, RSMs, and a hardware kit to replace all the non-reusable fasteners that you "lake test". Have you had the car since new? When did you get it? The factory suspension is not "crap", it's just not as aggressive as many of the enthusiasts on the board might like. If you're not likely to autocross or track the car, or sell the car to an enthusiast, you may want to seriously consider sticking with a stock or stock-ish suspension. Your cheapest option if you decide you want to replace everything is to find someone with a take-off M3 suspension that they're willing to part with. (e.g. I've got take-off struts/shocks/springs from a '95 M3 that I'd be willing to part with if you want to talk.) It is an upgrade from the base 3-er stuff, but very streetable. However, depending on the mileage (not exactly sure what mine has -- P.O. removed), you may be buying new shocks/struts anyway. That was why my first thought was just to do shocks/struts/ RSMs. I might have some E46 RSMs w/ Z3 reinforcement plates laying around somewhere too, but need to dig in the garage for them. If you're buying anything new, talk to Jack or Karl at http://www.elephantmotorsports.com/ and tell them I sent you. Good luck. - N. Jay 1995 M3 Including what's on the car: five sets of springs, three sets of struts/shocks, three sets of sway bars, two x-braces one strut tower brace ------------------------- > Yup, it is time to replace the sorry factory > springs/shocks/struts on my 96 328i. > > Does anyone have any cheap shocks/struts/springs > (preferably not stock ones, I've already got them :)? > I also probably need to replace the rear mounts, so > I'll need them too. I don't know how much longer I'm > going to hold onto this car, so I don't want to dump > lots of money into it. Having said that, I don't want > to put crap on it either. > > Email me off line with what you've got. > > Thanks, > > Paul ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:50:55 -0400 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Looking for e36 front/rear shocks, struts, springs, and mounts Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Paul, Understood. I'd say then that if you're going through the trouble to replace it, you'd be well served to put new stock bits on. I'm not sure there's anything in the aftermarket that promises (or more importantly delivers) longer useful life. 60k gets you anywhere from 2-5 years depending on your annual mileage. That will give you good ride in the short run and a selling point in the long run. The likelihood of finding a super-low-mileage take-off stock E36 suspension is low. If you have your parts lined up, a Bentley and/or a knowledgeable friend, decent set of tools, appropriate spring compressors (Autozone rents/sells two different varieties IIRC), and an impact wrench (air or electric), you're looking at comfortable one-day job. Said it before and will again... If you're buying anything new, talk to Jack or Karl at http://www.elephantmotorsports.com/ and tell them I sent you. At least one of us will benefit from my referral (though no guarantees as to who that will be). Good luck. If you're local to Metro Detroit I can lend a hand. I'm an excellent supervisor, for example. If not, maybe someone else will offer. :-) - N. Jay ------------------------------------- > I didn't mean to suggest that the OEM stuff was crap, > just that my current OEM suspension is crap (it has > about 107k miles on it). Having said that, I've read > that the OEM stuff is generally only good for about > 60k miles?? > > I'm open to OEM stuff, but I don't want to buy someone > elses crap if you known what I mean. Replacing this > stuff isn't going to be a 10 minute job (especially > for me since I've never done it before on a BMW... > Mustangs no problem). As such, I just want to make > sure that what I'm buying is going to last me a while. > > > I'm not planning on autox this car (I've got another > one for that), so I'd just assume that it ride nicely. > I'm only not looking to slam it to the ground, I'll > leave that to others. > > -Paul > > --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Paul, > > > > I have to ask... what's wrong with the springs? If > > the answer is > > 'nothing', I'd say just get (new) two front struts, > > two rear shocks, > > RSMs, and a hardware kit to replace all the > > non-reusable fasteners that > > you "lake test". > > > > Have you had the car since new? When did you get > > it? The factory > > suspension is not "crap", it's just not as > > aggressive as many of the > > enthusiasts on the board might like. If you're not > > likely to autocross > > or track the car, or sell the car to an enthusiast, > > you may want to > > seriously consider sticking with a stock or > > stock-ish suspension. > > > > Your cheapest option if you decide you want to > > replace everything is to > > find someone with a take-off M3 suspension that > > they're willing to part > > with. (e.g. I've got take-off struts/shocks/springs > > from a '95 M3 that > > I'd be willing to part with if you want to talk.) > > It is an upgrade from > > the base 3-er stuff, but very streetable. However, > > depending on the > > mileage (not exactly sure what mine has -- P.O. > > removed), you may be > > buying new shocks/struts anyway. That was why my > > first thought was just > > to do shocks/struts/ RSMs. > > > > I might have some E46 RSMs w/ Z3 reinforcement > > plates laying around > > somewhere too, but need to dig in the garage for > > them. > > > > If you're buying anything new, talk to Jack or Karl > > at > > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com/ > > and tell them I sent you. > > > > Good luck. > > > > - N. Jay > > > > 1995 M3 > > > > Including what's on the car: > > five sets of springs, > > three sets of struts/shocks, > > three sets of sway bars, > > two x-braces > > one strut tower brace > > > > ------------------------- > > > Yup, it is time to replace the sorry factory > > > springs/shocks/struts on my 96 328i. > > > > > > Does anyone have any cheap shocks/struts/springs > > > (preferably not stock ones, I've already got them > > :)? > > > I also probably need to replace the rear mounts, > > so > > > I'll need them too. I don't know how much longer > > I'm > > > going to hold onto this car, so I don't want to > > dump > > > lots of money into it. Having said that, I don't > > want > > > to put crap on it either. > > > > > > Email me off line with what you've got. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > Search the > > > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > > founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > > home of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:57:30 -0400 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Looking for e36 front/rear shocks, struts, springs, and mounts Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> BTW, Paul... If you don't have the ETK, the diagrams on this site will be helpful: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/ Of course, when I say "stock", I mean stock, stock-ish, or inexpensive functional equivalent. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > I didn't mean to suggest that the OEM stuff was crap, > just that my current OEM suspension is crap (it has > about 107k miles on it). Having said that, I've read > that the OEM stuff is generally only good for about > 60k miles?? > > I'm open to OEM stuff, but I don't want to buy someone > elses crap if you known what I mean. Replacing this > stuff isn't going to be a 10 minute job (especially > for me since I've never done it before on a BMW... > Mustangs no problem). As such, I just want to make > sure that what I'm buying is going to last me a while. > > > I'm not planning on autox this car (I've got another > one for that), so I'd just assume that it ride nicely. > I'm only not looking to slam it to the ground, I'll > leave that to others. > > -Paul > > --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Paul, > > > > I have to ask... what's wrong with the springs? If > > the answer is > > 'nothing', I'd say just get (new) two front struts, > > two rear shocks, > > RSMs, and a hardware kit to replace all the > > non-reusable fasteners that > > you "lake test". > > > > Have you had the car since new? When did you get > > it? The factory > > suspension is not "crap", it's just not as > > aggressive as many of the > > enthusiasts on the board might like. If you're not > > likely to autocross > > or track the car, or sell the car to an enthusiast, > > you may want to > > seriously consider sticking with a stock or > > stock-ish suspension. > > > > Your cheapest option if you decide you want to > > replace everything is to > > find someone with a take-off M3 suspension that > > they're willing to part > > with. (e.g. I've got take-off struts/shocks/springs > > from a '95 M3 that > > I'd be willing to part with if you want to talk.) > > It is an upgrade from > > the base 3-er stuff, but very streetable. However, > > depending on the > > mileage (not exactly sure what mine has -- P.O. > > removed), you may be > > buying new shocks/struts anyway. That was why my > > first thought was just > > to do shocks/struts/ RSMs. > > > > I might have some E46 RSMs w/ Z3 reinforcement > > plates laying around > > somewhere too, but need to dig in the garage for > > them. > > > > If you're buying anything new, talk to Jack or Karl > > at > > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com/ > > and tell them I sent you. > > > > Good luck. > > > > - N. Jay > > > > 1995 M3 > > > > Including what's on the car: > > five sets of springs, > > three sets of struts/shocks, > > three sets of sway bars, > > two x-braces > > one strut tower brace > > > > ------------------------- > > > Yup, it is time to replace the sorry factory > > > springs/shocks/struts on my 96 328i. > > > > > > Does anyone have any cheap shocks/struts/springs > > > (preferably not stock ones, I've already got them > > :)? > > > I also probably need to replace the rear mounts, > > so > > > I'll need them too. I don't know how much longer > > I'm > > > going to hold onto this car, so I don't want to > > dump > > > lots of money into it. Having said that, I don't > > want > > > to put crap on it either. > > > > > > Email me off line with what you've got. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Paul > > > > > > Search the > > > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > > founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > > home of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:26:49 -0700 (PDT) From: P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [email protected] Subject: Re: Looking for e36 front/rear shocks, struts, springs, and mounts Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I didn't mean to suggest that the OEM stuff was crap, just that my current OEM suspension is crap (it has about 107k miles on it). Having said that, I've read that the OEM stuff is generally only good for about 60k miles?? I'm open to OEM stuff, but I don't want to buy someone elses crap if you known what I mean. Replacing this stuff isn't going to be a 10 minute job (especially for me since I've never done it before on a BMW... Mustangs no problem). As such, I just want to make sure that what I'm buying is going to last me a while. I'm not planning on autox this car (I've got another one for that), so I'd just assume that it ride nicely. I'm only not looking to slam it to the ground, I'll leave that to others. -Paul --- "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Paul, > > I have to ask... what's wrong with the springs? If > the answer is > 'nothing', I'd say just get (new) two front struts, > two rear shocks, > RSMs, and a hardware kit to replace all the > non-reusable fasteners that > you "lake test". > > Have you had the car since new? When did you get > it? The factory > suspension is not "crap", it's just not as > aggressive as many of the > enthusiasts on the board might like. If you're not > likely to autocross > or track the car, or sell the car to an enthusiast, > you may want to > seriously consider sticking with a stock or > stock-ish suspension. > > Your cheapest option if you decide you want to > replace everything is to > find someone with a take-off M3 suspension that > they're willing to part > with. (e.g. I've got take-off struts/shocks/springs > from a '95 M3 that > I'd be willing to part with if you want to talk.) > It is an upgrade from > the base 3-er stuff, but very streetable. However, > depending on the > mileage (not exactly sure what mine has -- P.O. > removed), you may be > buying new shocks/struts anyway. That was why my > first thought was just > to do shocks/struts/ RSMs. > > I might have some E46 RSMs w/ Z3 reinforcement > plates laying around > somewhere too, but need to dig in the garage for > them. > > If you're buying anything new, talk to Jack or Karl > at > http://www.elephantmotorsports.com/ > and tell them I sent you. > > Good luck. > > - N. Jay > > 1995 M3 > > Including what's on the car: > five sets of springs, > three sets of struts/shocks, > three sets of sway bars, > two x-braces > one strut tower brace > > ------------------------- > > Yup, it is time to replace the sorry factory > > springs/shocks/struts on my 96 328i. > > > > Does anyone have any cheap shocks/struts/springs > > (preferably not stock ones, I've already got them > :)? > > I also probably need to replace the rear mounts, > so > > I'll need them too. I don't know how much longer > I'm > > going to hold onto this car, so I don't want to > dump > > lots of money into it. Having said that, I don't > want > > to put crap on it either. > > > > Email me off line with what you've got. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Paul > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 09:57:06 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: e30 Brake lining warning light... Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pulling the bulb is so much like work. Put a piece of black electrical tape over the part of the dash where the light is. Scott Miller GGC BMW CCA Listens to Car Talk too much >Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:17:31 -0400 >From: Mo Karamat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED] Com" <[email protected]> >Subject: e30 Brake lining warning light... >Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Dear All, > >For some reason the warning light for my brake pads is showing up on the >dash (89 >325i).. I checked the sensors, and the pads and they are fine. Is there an >easy way to shut off the light? I check the pads enough, so I really do not >need the light.. Thanks in advance for your help! Mo ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:23:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Nick Ortwein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <[email protected]> Subject: E36 M3 Purchase Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My father who is where I get my 'car nut genes' from Wants to buy an E36 M3. Most likely it will be a coupe. I've already told him to by one that is bone stock. What M3 specific repairs should have been done already or potential issues do these cars have. Feel free to e-mail me on or off-list. Thanks in advance, Nick Ortwein San Diego, CA '01 S4 MTM Stage II '88 E30 325is ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:08:59 -0500 From: "Paul A. Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Nick Ortwein'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'UUC Digest'" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E36 M3 Purchase Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For sale! (talk about timing! LOL) 95 M3 coupe. Avus blue over dove grey. 67k miles, bone stock...pretty much Call for details, Paul A. Garnier FastNetworking 281-827-0725 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nick Ortwein Sent: Tuesday, September 13, 2005 12:24 PM To: UUC Digest Subject: [UUC] E36 M3 Purchase My father who is where I get my 'car nut genes' from Wants to buy an E36 M3. Most likely it will be a coupe. I've already told him to by one that is bone stock. What M3 specific repairs should have been done already or potential issues do these cars have. Feel free to e-mail me on or off-list. Thanks in advance, Nick Ortwein San Diego, CA '01 S4 MTM Stage II '88 E30 325is Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 21:28:06 -0400 From: "Rich Dorffer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'UUC Digest'" <[email protected]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: (WTB) Aluminum Trailer Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My brother is looking for an open aluminum trailer, preferably with a solid deck (aluminum tread plate but others considered) and twin axles capable of hauling a car but not much larger than that. Any leads, let me know. Reasonably close to Ohio would be nice. Feel free to post this or forward it to other lists, have them contact me directly at rdorffer "at" yahoo.com with additional information. Thanks. Regards, Rich ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(10 messages) **********
