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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 13:08:50 -0400
From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Goes to show some people are just F-ing morons.   "I love E30's" and your
calling me crazy?    ha


Mike

> -----Original Message-----
> Someone I once bought snow tires from told me his E30 M3 was about the
> worse vehicle he had ever driven in snow only 2nd worse to his E30
> 325is because of all the torque.  WTF????
> 
> I drove my E30 M3 one winter and it was by far the most fun I've ever
> had, and my 325is is my winter beater for a reason.  I love E30s in the
> snow w/snow tires of course.
> 
> Carlos.
 

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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 10:35:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carlos Lopez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Michael Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

--- Michael Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Goes to show some people are just F-ing morons.   "I love E30's" and
> your calling me crazy?    ha

Anyone who installs Recaros in an Aerostar is out of their mind. ;-)

-Carlos.
(E30 lovah)

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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 13:57:29 -0400
From: "Michael Lawrence" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

And still ALIVE!!!!!   Call me crazy mofo anyday.   

Starring at a E30 conv sitting in the drive that needs attention.   I dread
working on that POS, they are possessed.  When your 325IS lived at my house,
it stranded me about 2 miles from home, someone forgot to tell me the gauges
acted up.   Or the fact it had a hot start problem, among the long list,
lol.  

I have put $2500 in that damn thing with the new top, new suspension and
driveshaft etc.  I would give it away except my mother thinks it would be
great to have a weekend convertible.  So I am going to pass that curse on to
my father for upkeep.

Mike 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:bmwuucdigest-
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carlos Lopez
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 1:35 PM
> To: Michael Lawrence; [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [UUC] Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
> 
> --- Michael Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Goes to show some people are just F-ing morons.   "I love E30's" and
> > your calling me crazy?    ha
> 
> Anyone who installs Recaros in an Aerostar is out of their mind. ;-)
> 
> -Carlos.
> (E30 lovah)
> 
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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 13:13:39 -0400 
From: "Della Barba, Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Uucdigest <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Have you ever driven a rear engined car in the snow??? They are kind of rare
now. VW Bugs are mainly rusted to pieces now and 911s were never common.
A 911/VW engine is BEHIND the rear wheels. Unless you are going exactly
straight, imagine all that centrifugal force acting on all that weight
BEHIND the rear wheels. I used to live in a neighborhood with very steep
hills. Coming home in the snow there was no way to keep my MR2, which is way
better in snow than a rear engined car, from ending up backwards at the
bottom. Even if you crept down the curving descent at 1 MPH the back would
eventually come around. It was OK for me because the community made it
one-way going down so I wasn't going to meet anyone coming up :) A 911/VW
does the same thing but worse.


Joe Della Barba
323iT
MR 2 MK II

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 1:05 PM
To: Della Barba, Joe
Cc: Uucdigest
Subject: Re: [UUC] Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..

"but they really would rather be going backwards so you are constantly
having the back of the car try to pass the front."

This is just the result of it being rear wheel drive (pushing the car), not
because the motor is in the back.
Ryan-








 Not entirely true. It also depends on the weight distribution and total
> weight. My MR2 is fairly decent in snow because of the weight on the 
> rear wheels. Likewise FWD cars have an edge with more than half the 
> weight on the driven wheels. An old VW Bug or 911 is an interesting 
> ride in snow. They don't get stuck with all that weight on the rear 
> wheels, but they really would rather be going backwards so you are 
> constantly having the back of the car try to pass the front.
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gary Derian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 9:17 AM
> To: Della Barba, Joe; Uucdigest
> Subject: Re: [UUC] Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
>
> Snow performance is all about the tires so you can't blame that on the 
> car.
> Gary Derian
>
>
>
>>I had a 190E 2.3.
>> It isn't exactly the best car Mercedes ever made. It was real fun 
>>when some  electrical short made all the windows quit working and made 
>>the heat go  full  on! I drove 80 miles home holding the door open 
>>with my foot trying not to  die from heatstroke. I can think of plenty 
>>of other cars I would buy  before  I got another one. BTW it needed a 
>>new cylinder head at 50,000 miles. It  was  also the ALL TIME RECORD 
>>HOLDER of the worst car to drive in snow. A F1  car  on bald tires 
>>turned up to full boost would be better. I once got in it  and  it 
>>took off down the parking lot slope and into the woods and I hadn't  
>>even  started it yet!
>>
>>
>> Joe Della Barba
>> 323iT
>> MR2 MKII
>> Avalon
> Search the 
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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 10:52:23 -0700 (PDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Della Barba, Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Uucdigest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

We have had 356's and a 914, but there really isn't any snow in Oregon at
least in the Portland area.  I can imagine though.
Ryan-


Have you ever driven a rear engined car in the snow??? They are kind of
> rare
> now. VW Bugs are mainly rusted to pieces now and 911s were never common.
> A 911/VW engine is BEHIND the rear wheels. Unless you are going exactly
> straight, imagine all that centrifugal force acting on all that weight
> BEHIND the rear wheels. I used to live in a neighborhood with very steep
> hills. Coming home in the snow there was no way to keep my MR2, which is
> way
> better in snow than a rear engined car, from ending up backwards at the
> bottom. Even if you crept down the curving descent at 1 MPH the back would
> eventually come around. It was OK for me because the community made it
> one-way going down so I wasn't going to meet anyone coming up :) A 911/VW
> does the same thing but worse.
>
>
> Joe Della Barba
> 323iT
> MR 2 MK II
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 1:05 PM
> To: Della Barba, Joe
> Cc: Uucdigest
> Subject: Re: [UUC] Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
>
> "but they really would rather be going backwards so you are constantly
> having the back of the car try to pass the front."
>
> This is just the result of it being rear wheel drive (pushing the car),
> not
> because the motor is in the back.
> Ryan-
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Not entirely true. It also depends on the weight distribution and total
>> weight. My MR2 is fairly decent in snow because of the weight on the
>> rear wheels. Likewise FWD cars have an edge with more than half the
>> weight on the driven wheels. An old VW Bug or 911 is an interesting
>> ride in snow. They don't get stuck with all that weight on the rear
>> wheels, but they really would rather be going backwards so you are
>> constantly having the back of the car try to pass the front.
>>
>>
>> Joe Della Barba
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gary Derian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 9:17 AM
>> To: Della Barba, Joe; Uucdigest
>> Subject: Re: [UUC] Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
>>
>> Snow performance is all about the tires so you can't blame that on the
>> car.
>> Gary Derian
>>
>>
>>
>>>I had a 190E 2.3.
>>> It isn't exactly the best car Mercedes ever made. It was real fun
>>>when some  electrical short made all the windows quit working and made
>>>the heat go  full  on! I drove 80 miles home holding the door open
>>>with my foot trying not to  die from heatstroke. I can think of plenty
>>>of other cars I would buy  before  I got another one. BTW it needed a
>>>new cylinder head at 50,000 miles. It  was  also the ALL TIME RECORD
>>>HOLDER of the worst car to drive in snow. A F1  car  on bald tires
>>>turned up to full boost would be better. I once got in it  and  it
>>>took off down the parking lot slope and into the woods and I hadn't
>>>even  started it yet!
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe Della Barba
>>> 323iT
>>> MR2 MKII
>>> Avalon
>> Search the
>> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>>
>>
>> ______________________________________________________________________
>> ____ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the
>> BMW CCA.
>>
>> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>>
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
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>
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 11:00:51 -0700
From: Greg Cagle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Not right now there isn't 8^) but there has been plenty of snow here
in Portland in the past. Two winters ago I was stuck in the house
for four days due to black ice and snow. I was able to get my
E36 M3 down to the bottom of the driveway - just not back up.

When I drove a 911, I always told people it was like driving a very
powerful go-kart. You can get lots of traction, and the steering is
very sensitive, but you need to be aware of the vehicle dynamics
at all times if you're used to a front engine car. Even on dry
pavement the rear end pretty much wanted to come around all the
time.

- greg

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> We have had 356's and a 914, but there really isn't any snow in Oregon at
> least in the Portland area.  I can imagine though.
> Ryan-
> 
> 
> Have you ever driven a rear engined car in the snow??? They are kind of
> 
>>rare
>>now. VW Bugs are mainly rusted to pieces now and 911s were never common.
>>A 911/VW engine is BEHIND the rear wheels. Unless you are going exactly
>>straight, imagine all that centrifugal force acting on all that weight
>>BEHIND the rear wheels. I used to live in a neighborhood with very steep
>>hills. Coming home in the snow there was no way to keep my MR2, which is
>>way
>>better in snow than a rear engined car, from ending up backwards at the
>>bottom. Even if you crept down the curving descent at 1 MPH the back would
>>eventually come around. It was OK for me because the community made it
>>one-way going down so I wasn't going to meet anyone coming up :) A 911/VW
>>does the same thing but worse.
>>
>>
>>Joe Della Barba
>>323iT
>>MR 2 MK II
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 1:05 PM
>>To: Della Barba, Joe
>>Cc: Uucdigest
>>Subject: Re: [UUC] Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
>>
>>"but they really would rather be going backwards so you are constantly
>>having the back of the car try to pass the front."
>>
>>This is just the result of it being rear wheel drive (pushing the car),
>>not
>>because the motor is in the back.
>>Ryan-
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Not entirely true. It also depends on the weight distribution and total
>>
>>>weight. My MR2 is fairly decent in snow because of the weight on the
>>>rear wheels. Likewise FWD cars have an edge with more than half the
>>>weight on the driven wheels. An old VW Bug or 911 is an interesting
>>>ride in snow. They don't get stuck with all that weight on the rear
>>>wheels, but they really would rather be going backwards so you are
>>>constantly having the back of the car try to pass the front.
>>>
>>>
>>>Joe Della Barba
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Gary Derian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 9:17 AM
>>>To: Della Barba, Joe; Uucdigest
>>>Subject: Re: [UUC] Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
>>>
>>>Snow performance is all about the tires so you can't blame that on the
>>>car.
>>>Gary Derian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I had a 190E 2.3.
>>>>It isn't exactly the best car Mercedes ever made. It was real fun
>>>>when some  electrical short made all the windows quit working and made
>>>>the heat go  full  on! I drove 80 miles home holding the door open
>>>>with my foot trying not to  die from heatstroke. I can think of plenty
>>>>of other cars I would buy  before  I got another one. BTW it needed a
>>>>new cylinder head at 50,000 miles. It  was  also the ALL TIME RECORD
>>>>HOLDER of the worst car to drive in snow. A F1  car  on bald tires
>>>>turned up to full boost would be better. I once got in it  and  it
>>>>took off down the parking lot slope and into the woods and I hadn't
>>>>even  started it yet!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Joe Della Barba
>>>>323iT
>>>>MR2 MKII
>>>>Avalon
>>>
>>>Search the
>>>ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>______________________________________________________________________
>>>____ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the
>>>BMW CCA.
>>>
>>>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>>>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>>>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>>>
>>
>>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>>
>>
>>__________________________________________________________________________
>>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA.
>>
>>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>>
> 
> 
> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________________________________
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> 
> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
> 
> 
> 

-- 
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gregc at gregcagle dot com

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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 11:31:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: "Greg Cagle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Oh Yeah, that storm two years ago was wicked.  I drove the E30 down 18
from Mcminnville to 99 trying to get home.  I was riding on ES 100's and
the car still did well.  I didn't have any problems in the snow until it
turned into black ice when I got closer to home.  I have never dirven a
Porsche in the snow.  I have only driven a 914 and those are flippin
awesome!  I considered buying one before I got my E30 (my dad had one at
the time), but decided it wasn't practical driving down to Mcminnville
everyday from Portland for school.
Ryan-


Not right now there isn't 8^) but there has been plenty of snow here
> in Portland in the past. Two winters ago I was stuck in the house
> for four days due to black ice and snow. I was able to get my
> E36 M3 down to the bottom of the driveway - just not back up.
>
> When I drove a 911, I always told people it was like driving a very
> powerful go-kart. You can get lots of traction, and the steering is
> very sensitive, but you need to be aware of the vehicle dynamics
> at all times if you're used to a front engine car. Even on dry
> pavement the rear end pretty much wanted to come around all the
> time.
>
> - greg
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> We have had 356's and a 914, but there really isn't any snow in Oregon
>> at
>> least in the Portland area.  I can imagine though.
>> Ryan-
>>
>>
>> Have you ever driven a rear engined car in the snow??? They are kind of
>>
>>>rare
>>>now. VW Bugs are mainly rusted to pieces now and 911s were never common.
>>>A 911/VW engine is BEHIND the rear wheels. Unless you are going exactly
>>>straight, imagine all that centrifugal force acting on all that weight
>>>BEHIND the rear wheels. I used to live in a neighborhood with very steep
>>>hills. Coming home in the snow there was no way to keep my MR2, which is
>>>way
>>>better in snow than a rear engined car, from ending up backwards at the
>>>bottom. Even if you crept down the curving descent at 1 MPH the back
>>> would
>>>eventually come around. It was OK for me because the community made it
>>>one-way going down so I wasn't going to meet anyone coming up :) A
>>> 911/VW
>>>does the same thing but worse.
>>>
>>>
>>>Joe Della Barba
>>>323iT
>>>MR 2 MK II
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 1:05 PM
>>>To: Della Barba, Joe
>>>Cc: Uucdigest
>>>Subject: Re: [UUC] Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
>>>
>>>"but they really would rather be going backwards so you are constantly
>>>having the back of the car try to pass the front."
>>>
>>>This is just the result of it being rear wheel drive (pushing the car),
>>>not
>>>because the motor is in the back.
>>>Ryan-
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Not entirely true. It also depends on the weight distribution and total
>>>
>>>>weight. My MR2 is fairly decent in snow because of the weight on the
>>>>rear wheels. Likewise FWD cars have an edge with more than half the
>>>>weight on the driven wheels. An old VW Bug or 911 is an interesting
>>>>ride in snow. They don't get stuck with all that weight on the rear
>>>>wheels, but they really would rather be going backwards so you are
>>>>constantly having the back of the car try to pass the front.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Joe Della Barba
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>From: Gary Derian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 9:17 AM
>>>>To: Della Barba, Joe; Uucdigest
>>>>Subject: Re: [UUC] Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
>>>>
>>>>Snow performance is all about the tires so you can't blame that on the
>>>>car.
>>>>Gary Derian
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>I had a 190E 2.3.
>>>>>It isn't exactly the best car Mercedes ever made. It was real fun
>>>>>when some  electrical short made all the windows quit working and made
>>>>>the heat go  full  on! I drove 80 miles home holding the door open
>>>>>with my foot trying not to  die from heatstroke. I can think of plenty
>>>>>of other cars I would buy  before  I got another one. BTW it needed a
>>>>>new cylinder head at 50,000 miles. It  was  also the ALL TIME RECORD
>>>>>HOLDER of the worst car to drive in snow. A F1  car  on bald tires
>>>>>turned up to full boost would be better. I once got in it  and  it
>>>>>took off down the parking lot slope and into the woods and I hadn't
>>>>>even  started it yet!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Joe Della Barba
>>>>>323iT
>>>>>MR2 MKII
>>>>>Avalon
>>>>
>>>>Search the
>>>>ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>______________________________________________________________________
>>>>____ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the
>>>>BMW CCA.
>>>>
>>>>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>>>>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>>>>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>>>>
>>>
>>>Search the
>>> ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]
>>>
>>>
>>>__________________________________________________________________________
>>>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW
>>> CCA.
>>>
>>>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>>>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>>>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>>>
>>
>>
>> Search the
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>>
>> __________________________________________________________________________
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>> CCA.
>>
>> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate
>> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
>> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com
>>
>>
>>
>
> --
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> gregc at gregcagle dot com
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>
>
> __________________________________________________________________________
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>
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> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes!
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>


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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 10:10:55 -0700 (PDT)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: "Della Barba, Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
   "Uucdigest" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Ok, but the motor is mounted in the rear and it is rear wheel drive....
I see what you mean.  Sorry.
Ryan-



"but they really would rather be going backwards so you are constantly
> having the back of the car try to pass the front."
>
> This is just the result of it being rear wheel drive (pushing the car),
> not because the motor is in the back.
> Ryan-
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>  Not entirely true. It also depends on the weight distribution and total
>> weight. My MR2 is fairly decent in snow because of the weight on the
>> rear
>> wheels. Likewise FWD cars have an edge with more than half the weight on
>> the
>> driven wheels. An old VW Bug or 911 is an interesting ride in snow. They
>> don't get stuck with all that weight on the rear wheels, but they really
>> would rather be going backwards so you are constantly having the back of
>> the
>> car try to pass the front.
>>
>>
>> Joe Della Barba
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Gary Derian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2005 9:17 AM
>> To: Della Barba, Joe; Uucdigest
>> Subject: Re: [UUC] Mercedes reference needed ASAP ..
>>
>> Snow performance is all about the tires so you can't blame that on the
>> car.
>> Gary Derian
>>
>>
>>
>>>I had a 190E 2.3.
>>> It isn't exactly the best car Mercedes ever made. It was real fun when
>>>some  electrical short made all the windows quit working and made the
>>>heat go  full  on! I drove 80 miles home holding the door open with my
>>>foot trying not to  die from heatstroke. I can think of plenty of other
>>>cars I would buy  before  I got another one. BTW it needed a new
>>>cylinder head at 50,000 miles. It  was  also the ALL TIME RECORD HOLDER
>>>of the worst car to drive in snow. A F1  car  on bald tires turned up
>>>to full boost would be better. I once got in it  and  it took off down
>>>the parking lot slope and into the woods and I hadn't  even  started it
>>>yet!
>>>
>>>
>>> Joe Della Barba
>>> 323iT
>>> MR2 MKII
>>> Avalon
>> Search the
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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 14:08:23 -0400
From: Phil Marx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: FF (WOB)..E32 parts ??
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

I always figured you were smarter than this! ;-)

What you're describing is a car from a 
never-started-or-driven perspective. You're 
already figuring on being in the hole on cosmetic 
issues alone! Ask anyone familiar with an '88 E32 
and you'll find out there are dozens of niggling 
mechanical items from HVAC controls and flaps, to 
heater cores, to turn-signal stalk controls and 
general module failings that can eclipse the 
value of the whole car in their cost to repair. 
It may be one of those cars that if it were given 
to you with a $1000 credit at the bone-yard, 
you'd still be in the hole by the time you ever 
got it sorted out. Oh, and don't forget the 
torque converter.

Have fun.

-Phil

Bill Proud (36 yrs messing with BMWs until he was 
driven insane by an '88 E32) cross-posted:
>I have an opportunity to buy a 1988 735 tomorrow at a local auction
>(mid-south Tenn ) probably for very cheap .
>I am tossing up whether to try and part it out or restore it if it
>becomes mine all mine ...
>I suspect that it'd cost more than it's worth by far to restore , but if
>anyone reasonably close to Nashville has a parts-car already I'd be
>interested in talking prices ...for parts .
>This one needs a new windshield , a left-hand front (driver's) armrest
>in grey , a front passenger seat bottom in grey-blue . There's a ton of
>little nicky-nacky stuff like the glovebox straps, lenses over the
>lights at bottom of doors etc but for now I don’t remember them all -I
>just know I'll need them if I take it on .
>Relative to the alternative ...parting it out, OR passing it on to
>someone else ...It has been a 'southern car' as far back as I can tell .
>There is NO rust anywhere visible BUT there are dents on RF fender , and
>both doors on rh side so it will need some straightening ...NO
>frame=pulling it just looks like it bumped something small . The engine
>is super-clean and complete but I havent heard it running yet....


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Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2005 11:18:23 -0700
From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "BMW BMW BMW BMW" <[email protected]>
Subject: Restoring a 735
Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Bill wrote:

> I have an opportunity to buy a 1988 735 tomorrow at a local auction
> (mid-south Tenn ) probably for very cheap.  I am tossing up whether to try
> and part it out or restore it if it becomes mine all mine ...
> I suspect that it'd cost more than it's worth by far to restore ..

Bill you are correct when you suspect that it will cost far more to restore 
the 1988 735 than it is worth. The BMW 7 Series has always depreciated very 
fast and since the supply of nice clean used 7 Series cars is always greater 
than the demand.  If you want a nice restored 7 Series take a look at the 
link below (the car is probably still for sale since the last time I saw an 
ad in Roundel he was asking $20K for the $5K car that he spent $45K 
restoring).
http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/showthread.php?t=62783

Kevin Kelly
BMW CCA 50039



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