The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 246 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: <Misc> Automobile on 335i Re: <Misc> Automobile on 335i Re: <Misc> Automobile on 335i Re: <Misc> Automobile on 335i Re: <Misc> Automobile on 335i Re: <Misc> Automobile on 335i Re: <OT> Scuderi Engine Re: <OT> Scuderi Engine Re: <Misc> 335i motor? Re: E60 M5 specs Re: E60 M5 specs Re: WTB E34 Headlights Re: WTB E34 Headlights FS: 2005 330i ZHP
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:36:44 -0700 From: Mark Dadgar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <Misc> Automobile on 335i Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Aug 29, 2006, at 12:26 PM, Andre Yew wrote: >> Interesting specs on the 335i and a comparison to the E46m3. If >> you're OK with forced induction, it looks like a nice proxy to a 4 >> Dr m3 for now, plus I assume the boost will be chippable to do >> really stupid things if you want to. >> >> http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/ >> 0609_2007_bmw_335i_dynamometer/ > > It's rather heavy at 3500+ lbs, though. Unfortunately, that's just not heavy anymore. - Mark ----- [EMAIL PROTECTED] Check out my JustRacing Home Page at: http://www.justracing.com/homepage/mdadgar ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:23:32 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <Misc> Automobile on 335i Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> By that article's test dyno, the stock 330 is overrated. In tests I've seen an E36 //M3 rated 240hp gives 204-208 SAE hp on a Dynojet. The 255hp rated 330i should give 215-220. If its only 200 at the rear wheels then its making less than 240. Where else will BMW use that motor. Seems costly to certify it for only one model. Will we get the twin turbo in a 1 series? Barry Mark Dadgar wrote: > On Aug 29, 2006, at 12:26 PM, Andre Yew wrote: > >>> Interesting specs on the 335i and a comparison to the E46m3. If >>> you're OK with forced induction, it looks like a nice proxy to a 4 >>> Dr m3 for now, plus I assume the boost will be chippable to do >>> really stupid things if you want to. >>> http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/ >>> 0609_2007_bmw_335i_dynamometer/ >> >> It's rather heavy at 3500+ lbs, though. > > Unfortunately, that's just not heavy anymore. > - Mark ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:01:30 -0700 From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <Misc> Automobile on 335i Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 01:23 PM 8/29/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's what some friends and I have been speculating. And this particular 335i is probably putting out slightly higher than rated, as well. A stock E46 330 (225hp SAE) can put down 195-200 on a Dynojet, and E46 M3s come in the 275-280 range. That motor has been announced for the entire E90/91/92 range in the EU, and I've heard that it will be making it into the facelift X3 as well as the new X5 at the very least. Interestingly, the word floating around now is that all 335s in the US are sitting at the various VPCs because of EPA issues. This is why you'll find E92 328i seed cars at dealers now, but no 335s. > By that article's test dyno, the stock 330 is overrated. In > tests I've seen an E36 //M3 rated 240hp gives 204-208 SAE hp on a Dynojet. >The 255hp rated 330i should give 215-220. If its only 200 at the >rear wheels then its making less than 240. > Where else will BMW use that motor. Seems costly to certify it > for only one model. Will we get the twin turbo in a 1 series? >Barry > >Mark Dadgar wrote: > >>On Aug 29, 2006, at 12:26 PM, Andre Yew wrote: >> >>>>Interesting specs on the 335i and a comparison to the E46m3. If >>>>you're OK with forced induction, it looks like a nice proxy to a 4 >>>>Dr m3 for now, plus I assume the boost will be chippable to do >>>>really stupid things if you want to. >>>>http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/ 0609_2007_bmw_335i_dynamometer/ >>> >>>It's rather heavy at 3500+ lbs, though. >> >>Unfortunately, that's just not heavy anymore. >>- Mark > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:54:44 -0500 From: "Craig Robson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: <Misc> Automobile on 335i Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Did anyone else notice that in the 4th gear dyno pull, the speedo tops 150mph? E46 M3 just barely hits 140 on my inaccurate speedo. With numbers like that, I might trade the M3 in... Craig Robson 01 M3 86 Blazer in process of LQ4 upgrade ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kazuto Okayasu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [UUC] <Misc> Automobile on 335i > At 01:23 PM 8/29/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > That's what some friends and I have been speculating. And this particular > 335i is probably putting out slightly higher than rated, as well. A stock > E46 330 (225hp SAE) can put down 195-200 on a Dynojet, and E46 M3s come in > the 275-280 range. > > That motor has been announced for the entire E90/91/92 range in the EU, > and I've heard that it will be making it into the facelift X3 as well as > the new X5 at the very least. Interestingly, the word floating around now > is that all 335s in the US are sitting at the various VPCs because of EPA > issues. This is why you'll find E92 328i seed cars at dealers now, but no > 335s. > >> By that article's test dyno, the stock 330 is overrated. In tests >> I've seen an E36 //M3 rated 240hp gives 204-208 SAE hp on a Dynojet. >>The 255hp rated 330i should give 215-220. If its only 200 at the rear >>wheels then its making less than 240. >> Where else will BMW use that motor. Seems costly to certify it for >> only one model. Will we get the twin turbo in a 1 series? >>Barry >> >>Mark Dadgar wrote: >> >>>On Aug 29, 2006, at 12:26 PM, Andre Yew wrote: >>> >>>>>Interesting specs on the 335i and a comparison to the E46m3. If >>>>>you're OK with forced induction, it looks like a nice proxy to a 4 >>>>>Dr m3 for now, plus I assume the boost will be chippable to do >>>>>really stupid things if you want to. >>>>>http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/ >>>>>0609_2007_bmw_335i_dynamometer/ >>>> >>>>It's rather heavy at 3500+ lbs, though. >>> >>>Unfortunately, that's just not heavy anymore. >>>- Mark >> >>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> >>__________________________________________________________________________ >>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. >> >>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services > Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 09:50:35 -0400 From: "Ben Keyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <Misc> Automobile on 335i Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> no reason that the turbo won't end up in everything but the 7 series, it would work fine in an E39 as much as it would in an X5. if they don't make significant changes to the engine over a period of time they spread the cert costs out of that many more model years of production as well, so it's not _that_ expensive really. unless you have same-day dyno figures to compare or a significant history of a particular model (like exists for E36 & E46 M3's) the results from one dyno test of one car aren't indicative of all the much relative to reality, esp if as you note there may be certification issues ongoing as well, which could change the final calibration. Ben Kazuto Okayasu wrote: > That motor has been announced for the entire E90/91/92 range in the > EU, and I've heard that it will be making it into the facelift X3 as > well as the new X5 at the very least. Interestingly, the word > floating around now is that all 335s in the US are sitting at the > various VPCs because of EPA issues. This is why you'll find E92 328i > seed cars at dealers now, but no 335s. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:41:30 -0400 (GMT-04:00) From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <Misc> Automobile on 335i Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> No aero or chassis drag on a dyno...150 on a dyno might not get you far inside a bus. David in Richmond, VA -----Original Message----- >From: Craig Robson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Aug 29, 2006 9:54 PM >To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]> >Subject: Re: [UUC] <Misc> Automobile on 335i > >Did anyone else notice that in the 4th gear dyno pull, the speedo tops >150mph? E46 M3 just barely hits 140 on my inaccurate speedo. With numbers >like that, I might trade the M3 in... > >Craig Robson >01 M3 >86 Blazer in process of LQ4 upgrade > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kazuto Okayasu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 5:01 PM >Subject: Re: [UUC] <Misc> Automobile on 335i > > >> At 01:23 PM 8/29/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> That's what some friends and I have been speculating. And this particular >> 335i is probably putting out slightly higher than rated, as well. A stock >> E46 330 (225hp SAE) can put down 195-200 on a Dynojet, and E46 M3s come in >> the 275-280 range. >> >> That motor has been announced for the entire E90/91/92 range in the EU, >> and I've heard that it will be making it into the facelift X3 as well as >> the new X5 at the very least. Interestingly, the word floating around now >> is that all 335s in the US are sitting at the various VPCs because of EPA >> issues. This is why you'll find E92 328i seed cars at dealers now, but no >> 335s. >> >>> By that article's test dyno, the stock 330 is overrated. In tests >>> I've seen an E36 //M3 rated 240hp gives 204-208 SAE hp on a Dynojet. >>>The 255hp rated 330i should give 215-220. If its only 200 at the rear >>>wheels then its making less than 240. >>> Where else will BMW use that motor. Seems costly to certify it for >>> only one model. Will we get the twin turbo in a 1 series? >>>Barry >>> >>>Mark Dadgar wrote: >>> >>>>On Aug 29, 2006, at 12:26 PM, Andre Yew wrote: >>>> >>>>>>Interesting specs on the 335i and a comparison to the E46m3. If >>>>>>you're OK with forced induction, it looks like a nice proxy to a 4 >>>>>>Dr m3 for now, plus I assume the boost will be chippable to do >>>>>>really stupid things if you want to. >>>>>>http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/ >>>>>>0609_2007_bmw_335i_dynamometer/ >>>>> >>>>>It's rather heavy at 3500+ lbs, though. >>>> >>>>Unfortunately, that's just not heavy anymore. >>>>- Mark >>> >>>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >>> >>> >>>__________________________________________________________________________ >>>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. >>> >>>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >>>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >>>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >> >> Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services >> Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> >> __________________________________________________________________________ >> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. >> >> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:46:32 -0400 From: "Jason Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: <OT> Scuderi Engine Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Having looked at their white paper (and SolidWorks models) the motor looks like its based on the wankle rotory concept... except they split the combustion / expansion Its going to take a [EMAIL PROTECTED] of work to get the timing and delays associated w/ this down... don't expect to see this in your neighborhood showroom anytime soon :) -Jason '86 951 "Sparky" '70 240Z "Dusty" '97 Contour "Bambi" '03 325xi "Daisy" > Slightly off topic mention of new engine technology mentioned in Wired. > Anyone familiar with Scuderi engines? > > http://www.wired.com/news/technology/autotech/0,71648-0.html?tw=wn_index_6 > > Marc Plante > E36 M3/4 (still an inline 6) > Vienna, VA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:44:16 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <OT> Scuderi Engine Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Yea on paper it looks OK but shovel us some dough and we'll make it real..... like motor string theory. The system has shades of a Stirling concept which means RPM will be limited and what about the harmonics with that offset cylinder? More friction too. -Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:29:52 -0500 From: "Marc Plante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: <Misc> 335i motor? Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It'd be pretty nice addition to the 5 series body. Make a nice family car/wagon. They'd be aging to the proper vintage about when I'll be ready to (sniff) let go of my current ride (pry_keys_out_of_cold_dead_hands?) Marc Plante E36 M3/4 73k Vienna, VA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > To: "[uucdigest]" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [UUC] <Misc> Automobile on 335i > Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:23:32 -0700 > > > By that article's test dyno, the stock 330 is overrated. In > tests I've seen an E36 //M3 rated 240hp gives 204-208 SAE hp on a > Dynojet. The 255hp rated 330i should give 215-220. If its only > 200 at the rear wheels then its making less than 240. > Where else will BMW use that motor. Seems costly to certify > it for only one model. Will we get the twin turbo in a 1 series? > Barry > > Mark Dadgar wrote: > > > On Aug 29, 2006, at 12:26 PM, Andre Yew wrote: > > > >>> Interesting specs on the 335i and a comparison to the E46m3. > >>> If you're OK with forced induction, it looks like a nice proxy > >>> to a 4 Dr m3 for now, plus I assume the boost will be > >>> chippable to do really stupid things if you want to. > >>> http://www.automobilemag.com/features/news/ > >>> 0609_2007_bmw_335i_dynamometer/ > >> > >> It's rather heavy at 3500+ lbs, though. > > > > Unfortunately, that's just not heavy anymore. > > - Mark > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:36:25 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E60 M5 specs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Brian, Probably reading the potential across the spark plugs before they fire off. Like the old system pioneered by Saab?They can thus get a read on the state of ionization (charged particles) in the cylinder. -Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:56:54 -0400 From: "Della Barba, Joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E60 M5 specs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> http://www.gami.com/prism.html Joe Della Barba -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 4:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] E60 M5 specs Brian, Probably reading the potential across the spark plugs before they fire off. Like the old system pioneered by Saab?They can thus get a read on the state of ionization (charged particles) in the cylinder. -Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ __ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 16:07:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Matt Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: WTB E34 Headlights Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello Paul, I don't have any lights for your M5 just some random info. NAL is North American Lighting and is an OE supplier to BMW, Toyota and others. They are partially owned by Koito which is a large Japanese lighting manufacturer that supplies all of the big 4 mfg's in its home country. NAL supplied all of the US E36 lights as well...I hope they are not too proud of that design. Matt Weimer (works for another OE lamp supplier) --------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:05:23 -0500 From: "Paul Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: WTB E34 Headlights Hi all, Whilst cleaning my new acquisition (1991 M5) I noticed that the headlights have been replaced with off brand lights (NAL?). <snip> Regards, Paul Craven 1991 M5 1999 528it __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:35:27 -0400 From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: WTB E34 Headlights Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Perhaps more importantly... Paul, why would you think no-name lights from an ebay vendor would be better than the NAL units? Sounds like a crap shoot to me. - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: Matt Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I don't have any lights for your M5 just some random > info. NAL is North American Lighting and is an OE > supplier to BMW, Toyota and others. 0 > From: "Paul Craven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[email protected]> > Subject: WTB E34 Headlights > > Hi all, > Whilst cleaning my new acquisition (1991 M5) I noticed > that the > headlights have been replaced with off brand lights > (NAL?). > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:21:05 -0500 From: "Eric Giles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: FS: 2005 330i ZHP Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have decided to sell my '05 330i ZHP. Here are the details: 13,700 miles Imola red exterior Alcantara/cloth black interior with black aluminum cube trim 6 speed manual Performance Package Cold Weather Package (heated seats, fold down rear seats with ski bag, headlight washers) Bi-Xenon headlights Moonroof Harmon Kardon audio Automatic headlights Xpel clear bra installed 2 days after delivery ($650). I have changed the oil at 5k and 10k miles (I do not believe in the BMW 15k mile oil change interval!) with BMW oil and filters. Never driven hard, and the lack of tire wear proves it. Car is in absolutely superb condition. Asking $33,500. More information and pictures available upon request. Call me at 601-410-1638 or email at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Eric Giles '05 330i ZHP '88 M3 ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) **********
