The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 131 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings Re: Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings Inner workings Re: Inner workings Try this again Re: Try this again Re: Try this again Re: Try this again Re: Try this again Re: Try this again Re: Try this again Re: Try this again Re: Try this again When does the ICV kick on/off
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:29:45 -0400 From: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> That's the car built by Ray Adams... it was his project, misappropriated for marketing reasons and shown as another company's project. Poor Ray... it happened to him TWICE, same misappropriation, same perpetrator. The wagon itself was featured in Roundel about 8 months ago... the new owner had re-fitted a majority of the aftermarket parts with UUC. ;-) - Rob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kazuto Okayasu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [UUC] Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings > >(I can see getting a wrecked M3 chassis and a straight Touring and > >playing Dr. Frankenstein... *insert evil laugh here* ) > > Have you seen this? > > The car is now owned by Ralph Warren of SPEED Touring and CCA Club > Racing fame. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 11:33:32 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Rob Levinson * UUC Motorwerks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Since the list is so slow... misc. Friday ramblings Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > A local BMW dealership head tech, Ray Adams, has already done that - he's > transplanted the E46 M3 drivetrain into the E46 Touring body, and is > currently finishing up a sedan. > > Apparently it's a straightforward swap as long as you have the complete M3 > wiring harness, DME, etc. What would be interesting is to see if you could put it into an E46 iXT and retain the all wheel drive. It's actually pretty concidental that this came up, I was just thinking about this whole thing since I am thinking about selling my M5. > Personally, I think the really intriguing (yet undoubtedly more difficult) > transplant would be the M5's S62 V8 into the E46 Touring. One of the nice things about the S54 is that it seems to be a pretty reliable powerplant, but maybe I just think that because I haven't owned one yet... The S62 OTOH seems to require a constant diet of $$ to keep it running. It's a great engine without a doubt, it just hasn't been terribly reliable in my experience. Regards -- Jamie Howton 2000 M5 1995 M3 Hampshire, IL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 12:11:28 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Inner workings Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Last night the latest Excellence mag (Porsche) came in and showed the new GT3. It struck me that with a some exceptions, the Porsche and BMW (OBMWC) interiors are really poorly done. The Porsche center console is a wall with the relevant knobs and displays oriented in very poor relationship to the driver. And both the BMW (3's and 7's) and the Porsche's seem to have a slab for the main dash. There is no graceful merging of the ends with the door skins. Why the change away from the driver tilted, line-of-site, within reach placement of yesteryear? -Kevin Hoping the ergonomic pendulum is starting to swing back. ---------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:27:27 -0400 From: "Dennis Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Inner workings Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Kevin wrote: >Last night the latest Excellence mag (Porsche) came in and showed the new GT3. It struck me that with a some exceptions, the Porsche and BMW (OBMWC) interiors are really poorly done. The Porsche center console is a wall with the relevant knobs and displays oriented in very poor relationship to the driver. And both the BMW (3's and 7's) and the Porsche's seem to have a slab for the main dash. There is no graceful merging of the ends with the door skins. Why the change away from the driver tilted, line-of-site, within reach placement of yesteryear? ============ Agreed, ergonomics are not great in many modern cars. But that might be due to crashworthiness issues. This is just my suspicion, but I would guess that manufacturers have designed interiors so that people are given as much room as possible to decelerate without hitting anything hard. Having a center console that is easily reachable with the driver's hand without shifting position means that the chances of that hand or arm smacking it in a frontal or side collision are increased, creating a greater risk of injury, and lowering crash test results. I miss the ergonomics of my old SAAB 900. Vty, --Dennis ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 15:58:31 -0400 From: "John Peacock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Try this again Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I have tried to post in the past, but it always bounces back. Anyway, I am getting ready to take the 99 328i C off the road and out of the wifes hands. It currently has M3 suspension and catback exhaust. I wondered how difficult it would be to acheive some decent horsepower gains. It handles extremely well as it sits. So I think I want to concentrate on the hp and brakes first. Also is there any way to slow down or stop the brake dust issue on the rims? After about 25 or so miles the wheels are black. Thanks in advance John in Deland, FL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 13:47:57 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Peacock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Try this again Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Freebee 5 hp at the rear wheels, as measured on a dyno with a stock '97 /M3: remove the inner restrictor cone and front accordion tube from the factory airbox. Not so freebee: install an OBDI intake manifold. If your car hasn't had the crankshaft position sensor recall done, have it performed since it includes a favorable remap. Barry John Peacock wrote: > I have tried to post in the past, but it always bounces back. Anyway, > I am getting ready to take the 99 328i C off the road and out of the > wifes hands. It currently has M3 suspension and catback exhaust. I > wondered how difficult it would be to acheive some decent horsepower > gains. It handles extremely well as it sits. So I think I want to > concentrate on the hp and brakes first. > Also is there any way to slow down or stop the brake dust issue on the > rims? After about 25 or so miles the wheels are black. > Thanks in advance > John in Deland, FL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:03:10 -0400 From: "John Peacock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Try this again Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> By recall, I assume you mean I have to bring it to that God forsaken dealer. The car is quickly aproaching 100k, is it still under the recall warranty? With the OBD1 intake, is it necessary to replace injectors, computer, etc etc, or is it just a simple swap that can use the origional OBD2 electronics? Thanks I will try these freebie items. John ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "John Peacock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 4:47 PM Subject: Re: [UUC] Try this again > Freebee 5 hp at the rear wheels, as measured on a dyno with a stock '97 > /M3: > remove the inner restrictor cone and front accordion tube from the factory > airbox. > Not so freebee: install an OBDI intake manifold. > If your car hasn't had the crankshaft position sensor recall done, have it > performed since it includes a favorable remap. > Barry > > John Peacock wrote: > >> I have tried to post in the past, but it always bounces back. Anyway, I >> am getting ready to take the 99 328i C off the road and out of the wifes >> hands. It currently has M3 suspension and catback exhaust. I wondered >> how difficult it would be to acheive some decent horsepower gains. It >> handles extremely well as it sits. So I think I want to concentrate on >> the hp and brakes first. >> Also is there any way to slow down or stop the brake dust issue on the >> rims? After about 25 or so miles the wheels are black. >> Thanks in advance >> John in Deland, FL ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:43:42 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: John Peacock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: Try this again Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The manifold does not need special remetering, whatever mapping you have will work. You will gain 8 to 10 rear wheel hp. Little if any midrange improvement, but the engine keeps on pulling when revving out. Barry John Peacock wrote: > By recall, I assume you mean I have to bring it to that God forsaken > dealer. > The car is quickly aproaching 100k, is it still under the recall > warranty? > > With the OBD1 intake, is it necessary to replace injectors, computer, etc > etc, or is it just a simple swap that can use the origional OBD2 > electronics? > > Thanks I will try these freebie items. > John > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "John Peacock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 4:47 PM > Subject: Re: [UUC] Try this again > > >> Freebee 5 hp at the rear wheels, as measured on a dyno with a stock >> '97 /M3: >> remove the inner restrictor cone and front accordion tube from the >> factory airbox. >> Not so freebee: install an OBDI intake manifold. >> If your car hasn't had the crankshaft position sensor recall done, >> have it performed since it includes a favorable remap. >> Barry >> >> John Peacock wrote: >> >>> I have tried to post in the past, but it always bounces back. >>> Anyway, I am getting ready to take the 99 328i C off the road and >>> out of the wifes hands. It currently has M3 suspension and catback >>> exhaust. I wondered how difficult it would be to acheive some >>> decent horsepower gains. It handles extremely well as it sits. So >>> I think I want to concentrate on the hp and brakes first. >>> Also is there any way to slow down or stop the brake dust issue on >>> the rims? After about 25 or so miles the wheels are black. >>> Thanks in advance >>> John in Deland, FL >> > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:02:42 -0700 From: "Hogg, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "John Peacock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Try this again Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Akebono ProAct pads are what I put on my 1996 328iC (http://www.akebonobrakes.com/aftermarket/proact/ceramic_disc_pads/index .html) Need more pressure on the pedal, but the braking is far smoother and more linear feeling. And very little brake dust. As for decent horsepower gains, my own argument to myself is "spend $2000 on lots of little bits and pieces and get 40 extra horsepower, or spend $6-8k and get 300 RWHP, i.e. a twin screw supercharger." I will, at a point in time that my finances allow it, go the TS route... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Peacock Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] Try this again I have tried to post in the past, but it always bounces back. Anyway, I am getting ready to take the 99 328i C off the road and out of the wifes hands. It currently has M3 suspension and catback exhaust. I wondered how difficult it would be to acheive some decent horsepower gains. It handles extremely well as it sits. So I think I want to concentrate on the hp and brakes first. Also is there any way to slow down or stop the brake dust issue on the rims? After about 25 or so miles the wheels are black. Thanks in advance John in Deland, FL Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ __ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:22:47 -0700 From: "Hogg, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "John Peacock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Try this again Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I had to buy the front and rear from two different vendors. TireRack for the front and I don't recall for the rear, but a quick web search shows them at auto parts performance -----Original Message----- From: John Peacock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 2:12 PM To: Hogg, Andrew; [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] Try this again Who sells them? I tried the site, but cant seem to find a list of retailers. Thanks John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hogg, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "John Peacock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:02 PM Subject: RE: [UUC] Try this again Akebono ProAct pads are what I put on my 1996 328iC (http://www.akebonobrakes.com/aftermarket/proact/ceramic_disc_pads/index .html) Need more pressure on the pedal, but the braking is far smoother and more linear feeling. And very little brake dust. As for decent horsepower gains, my own argument to myself is "spend $2000 on lots of little bits and pieces and get 40 extra horsepower, or spend $6-8k and get 300 RWHP, i.e. a twin screw supercharger." I will, at a point in time that my finances allow it, go the TS route... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Peacock Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] Try this again I have tried to post in the past, but it always bounces back. Anyway, I am getting ready to take the 99 328i C off the road and out of the wifes hands. It currently has M3 suspension and catback exhaust. I wondered how difficult it would be to acheive some decent horsepower gains. It handles extremely well as it sits. So I think I want to concentrate on the hp and brakes first. Also is there any way to slow down or stop the brake dust issue on the rims? After about 25 or so miles the wheels are black. Thanks in advance John in Deland, FL Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ __ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:24:32 -0700 From: "Hogg, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "John Peacock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Try this again Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 1. How do I find out if my car (1996 328ic) has or has not had the crankshaft position sensor recall done - it's in a place that is not easy to see the part number. 2. Any clue how much it is or it is a freebie cause it's a recall? Andrew -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 1:48 PM To: John Peacock Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] Try this again Freebee 5 hp at the rear wheels, as measured on a dyno with a stock '97 /M3: remove the inner restrictor cone and front accordion tube from the factory airbox. Not so freebee: install an OBDI intake manifold. If your car hasn't had the crankshaft position sensor recall done, have it performed since it includes a favorable remap. Barry John Peacock wrote: > I have tried to post in the past, but it always bounces back. Anyway, > I am getting ready to take the 99 328i C off the road and out of the > wifes hands. It currently has M3 suspension and catback exhaust. I > wondered how difficult it would be to acheive some decent horsepower > gains. It handles extremely well as it sits. So I think I want to > concentrate on the hp and brakes first. > Also is there any way to slow down or stop the brake dust issue on the > rims? After about 25 or so miles the wheels are black. > Thanks in advance > John in Deland, FL Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ __ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 17:12:11 -0400 From: "John Peacock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Hogg, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Try this again Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Who sells them? I tried the site, but cant seem to find a list of retailers. Thanks John ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hogg, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "John Peacock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:02 PM Subject: RE: [UUC] Try this again Akebono ProAct pads are what I put on my 1996 328iC (http://www.akebonobrakes.com/aftermarket/proact/ceramic_disc_pads/index .html) Need more pressure on the pedal, but the braking is far smoother and more linear feeling. And very little brake dust. As for decent horsepower gains, my own argument to myself is "spend $2000 on lots of little bits and pieces and get 40 extra horsepower, or spend $6-8k and get 300 RWHP, i.e. a twin screw supercharger." I will, at a point in time that my finances allow it, go the TS route... -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Peacock Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:59 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [UUC] Try this again I have tried to post in the past, but it always bounces back. Anyway, I am getting ready to take the 99 328i C off the road and out of the wifes hands. It currently has M3 suspension and catback exhaust. I wondered how difficult it would be to acheive some decent horsepower gains. It handles extremely well as it sits. So I think I want to concentrate on the hp and brakes first. Also is there any way to slow down or stop the brake dust issue on the rims? After about 25 or so miles the wheels are black. Thanks in advance John in Deland, FL Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] ________________________________________________________________________ __ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 09:27:43 -0400 From: John Grills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "John Peacock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Hogg, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Try this again Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tirerack sells them r/jpg On Apr 27, 2006, at 5:12 PM, John Peacock wrote: > Who sells them? I tried the site, but cant seem to find a list of > retailers. > > Thanks > John > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hogg, Andrew" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "John Peacock" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; > <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 5:02 PM > Subject: RE: [UUC] Try this again > > > Akebono ProAct pads are what I put on my 1996 328iC > (http://www.akebonobrakes.com/aftermarket/proact/ceramic_disc_pads/ > index > .html) > > Need more pressure on the pedal, but the braking is far smoother and > more linear feeling. And very little brake dust. > > As for decent horsepower gains, my own argument to myself is "spend > $2000 on lots of little bits and pieces and get 40 extra > horsepower, or > spend $6-8k and get 300 RWHP, i.e. a twin screw supercharger." I will, > at a point in time that my finances allow it, go the TS route... > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Peacock > Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:59 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: [UUC] Try this again > > I have tried to post in the past, but it always bounces back. > Anyway, I > am > getting ready to take the 99 328i C off the road and out of the wifes > hands. > It currently has M3 suspension and catback exhaust. I wondered how > difficult it would be to acheive some decent horsepower gains. It > handles > extremely well as it sits. So I think I want to concentrate on the hp > and > brakes first. > > Also is there any way to slow down or stop the brake dust issue on the > rims? > After about 25 or so miles the wheels are black. > > Thanks in advance > John in Deland, FL > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > __ > __ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW > CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/ > [email protected] > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ____ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the > BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 27 Apr 2006 14:11:49 -0700 From: "Hogg, Andrew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: When does the ICV kick on/off Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> While the board is idle, I thought I'd give you an opportunity to educate me on a matter I can't find an answer to on the other boards - a more and more frequent occurrence it seems! I would like to know a little more about the ICV (Idle Control Valve) and how it works. For reference I have a 1996 328iC with 105k. My question is: Is the ICV an on/off valve as far as the engine is concerned, in terms of when it is used to control the idle? In other words, at a "throttle plate closed" state is the ICV "activated" and used to control idle, and then as soon as the throttle reaches anything more than fully closed, is it "deactivated"? Or is the ICV opening closed more and more as the throttle plate opens more and more? On the opposite side of throttle opening, if I am at say 3000 rpm, and I take my foot off the gas pedal (i.e. throttle plate closed) and depress the clutch, does the ICV kick in immediately, or does it only kick in once the rpm has reached a set level, say 1000 rpm? I understand that when in use the ICV is not an on/off valve and is constantly varying it's opening to control idle. And I understand that the ICV is never 100% closed, that in it's fully closed position it still has a slight opening. Thanks for any insights as I try to understand my car a little better... Andrew ------------------------------------ FusionOne Andrew Hogg Director Product Management [EMAIL PROTECTED] 1 Almaden Blvd 11th Floor San Jose, CA 95113 tel: 408-282-1228 mobile: 408-390-0686 ------------------------------------ ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) **********
