The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 165 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: For Sale - 1989 M3 $10,000 Re: E46M3 trans and diff fluid recommendations Sears Aluminum/Steel Jack Re: Sears Aluminum/Steel Jack Re: M42 Spark Plugs Re: M42 Spark Plugs Re: M42 Spark Plugs Re: M42 Spark Plugs Re: E46M3 trans and diff fluid recommendations Re: E46M3 trans and diff fluid recommendations Re: M42 Spark Plugs Opportunity to tell BMW what you're looking for Re: Opportunity to tell BMW what you're looking for Re: M42 Spark Plugs
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 12:27:54 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: For Sale - 1989 M3 $10,000 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sorry for the repost but the subject line of the original submission was incorrect Selling my diamond black 1989 M3. Interior is black leather in good condition (no rips or holes). 102k verified miles. Have owned for 8 years. Very little use (Minnesota summers only). Many new and replaced parts, including the following: valve-job with all new valves, throttle-body gaskets, differential, exhaust, brakes and rotors, radiator, dechipped the hood and leading edges of the fenders. All stock. Smooth idle and runs strong. Originally purchased with the intention of converting to track but other things got in the way. Car is very straight and clean. Have pics, can email. Has clean MN title but Carfax does indicate salvage history, therefore the low price. However VIN number stickers are on all major structural components. Please no tirekickers or time wasters, serious buyers only!. Please email your questions or for pics. Thanks! NOTICE This message and any attachment(s) are for authorized use by the intended recipient(s) only and may contain privileged or confidential information. Unless you are an intended recipient, you may not use, copy, retain, or disclose to anyone any information contained in this message and any attachment(s). If you are not an intended recipient of this message, please immediately contact the sender and delete this message and any attachment(s). ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 13:15:43 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]>, "Peter B Du Bois" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: E46M3 trans and diff fluid recommendations Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My transmission shifts easily into any gear at nearly any time. No crunching and only a short balk while the synchros spin up the gears. This is with 181,000 miles. I've used moly since 90,000 miles. Gary Derian > Gary Derian Wrote: >>ATF has a specific viscosity and it the thinnest oil used on a car. Its >>pretty much a straight 10W oil. > >>In my E34M5 I use Mobil 1 ATF with some molybdenum disulfide mixed in. It >>works great. > >>Gary Derian > > Gary, > > Not that I mean to indulge in either Clintonian, or for that matter, > Bushonian parsing of common definitions, but what exactly do you mean by > "works great"? > Less noise from the gearbox? Reduced fuel consumption? Something else? > > Peter ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 13:32:00 -0400 From: "Stan Jackson Jr." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Sears Aluminum/Steel Jack Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Has anybody checked out this aluminum/steel jack at Sears? Is it the same one they have had around for awhile? Any indication that the steel part makes significantly better than the crap aluminum ones being sold elsewhere? Not looking to start the old aluminum jack thread again ... Stan Item# 50240 http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&c at=Mechanics+Tools&subcat=Lift+Equipment&pid=00950240000 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 10:55:25 -0700 (PDT) From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Sears Aluminum/Steel Jack Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, 5 Jun 2006, Stan Jackson Jr. wrote: > Item# 50240 > > http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&c > at=Mechanics+Tools&subcat=Lift+Equipment&pid=00950240000 I've had one for a bit over a year, and haven't had any problem with it, except for some squeaking noises. I mostly only change brakes and fluids on my car, so it hasn't been subjected to heavy use. It's a little difficult to modulate the release, but OK after a bit of practice. --andre ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 10:54:52 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: M42 Spark Plugs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gary, If you intend to put Dielectric grease on the plug ends of the wires, don't. Seal's on the BMW wires are very good and won't allow much , if any, moisture into the connector end. The problem with grease is that it can in fact cause the boot to come off of the plug and then the resulting misfire will cause raw fuel to get pumped into the cat and this will cause the cat to go red hot and fail. Just make sure the plug insulator is clean when installing. Also, a piece of straight rubber hose that snugs on the insulator can aid in putting it into the plug hole if your 16mm socket doesn't have the rubber insert. If the '91 has distributorless ignition than just dress the low voltage side of the connector to the coils with Stabilant or DeOxit gold. -Kevin ---------------------------------------------------------------- This e-mail communication is confidential and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by replying to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and any copies of it. Thank you. ---------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 11:17:36 -0700 (PDT) From: P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: M42 Spark Plugs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Question: How noticeable would a misfire caused by dielectric grease be? The reason I ask is my 95 M3 (which I changed the plugs back in Oct/Nov and used dielectric grease thinking I was going "the extra mile"), just failed HC emissions (limit is 220 and mine was 540). I don't really notice any skipping, but then again maybe I'm just used to it?? I'm just trying to hunt down what the problem might be. Thanks, Paul 95 M3 --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Gary, > If you intend to put Dielectric grease on the plug > ends of the wires, > don't. Seal's on the BMW wires are very good and > won't allow much , if any, > moisture into the connector end. The problem with > grease is that it can in > fact cause the boot to come off of the plug and then > the resulting misfire > will cause raw fuel to get pumped into the cat and > this will cause the cat > to go red hot and fail. Just make sure the plug > insulator is clean when > installing. > > Also, a piece of straight rubber hose that snugs on > the insulator can aid > in putting it into the plug hole if your 16mm socket > doesn't have the > rubber insert. > > If the '91 has distributorless ignition than just > dress the low voltage > side of the connector to the coils with Stabilant or > DeOxit gold. > > -Kevin > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > This e-mail communication is confidential and is > intended only > for the individual(s) or entity named above and > others who have > been specifically authorized to receive it. If > you are not the > intended recipient, please do not read, copy, > use or disclose > the contents of this communication to others. > Please notify the > sender that you have received this e-mail in > error by replying > to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and > any copies of > it. Thank you. > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 15:09:35 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "P Kroon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: M42 Spark Plugs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The short elephant trunk that connects the coil to the plug is captures so no worries about that. What were your other emissions numbers? Gary Derian > Question: How noticeable would a misfire caused by > dielectric grease be? The reason I ask is my 95 M3 > (which I changed the plugs back in Oct/Nov and used > dielectric grease thinking I was going "the extra > mile"), just failed HC emissions (limit is 220 and > mine was 540). I don't really notice any skipping, > but then again maybe I'm just used to it?? I'm just > trying to hunt down what the problem might be. > > Thanks, > > Paul > 95 M3 > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> >> Gary, >> If you intend to put Dielectric grease on the plug >> ends of the wires, >> don't. Seal's on the BMW wires are very good and >> won't allow much , if any, >> moisture into the connector end. The problem with >> grease is that it can in >> fact cause the boot to come off of the plug and then >> the resulting misfire >> will cause raw fuel to get pumped into the cat and >> this will cause the cat >> to go red hot and fail. Just make sure the plug >> insulator is clean when >> installing. >> >> Also, a piece of straight rubber hose that snugs on >> the insulator can aid >> in putting it into the plug hole if your 16mm socket >> doesn't have the >> rubber insert. >> >> If the '91 has distributorless ignition than just >> dress the low voltage >> side of the connector to the coils with Stabilant or >> DeOxit gold. >> >> -Kevin >> >> >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> This e-mail communication is confidential and is >> intended only >> for the individual(s) or entity named above and >> others who have >> been specifically authorized to receive it. If >> you are not the >> intended recipient, please do not read, copy, >> use or disclose >> the contents of this communication to others. >> Please notify the >> sender that you have received this e-mail in >> error by replying >> to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail and >> any copies of >> it. Thank you. >> >> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> >> >> Search the >> > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] >> >> >> > __________________________________________________________________________ >> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, >> founder of the BMW CCA. >> >> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and >> home of the Ultimate >> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com >> > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 12:17:53 -0700 (PDT) From: P Kroon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: M42 Spark Plugs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> It only gave me the CO numbers which were well below the limits. Any suggestions? A little history. The car has about 85K miles now and had a bad O2 sensors (which, for unimportant reasons, I wasn't able to change as quickly as I would have liked), so I ended up putting about 5-6K miles on with the bad O2. I'm wondering if I toasted the cat?? I seem to recall there being a lot of discussion regarding plug type with BMWs, and that certain types of plugs should be avoided. I didn't consider this when I replaced the plug about 10K miles ago, but I think they are platinum if that helps. Car seems to run absolutely fine otherwise, ideas fine (as best as I can tell), good power and gets about 25 mpg with "enthusiastic" highway driving :) The mpg didn't change at all after I replaced the O2 sensor. -Paul 95 M3 --- Gary Derian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The short elephant trunk that connects the coil to > the plug is captures so > no worries about that. What were your other > emissions numbers? > Gary Derian > > > > Question: How noticeable would a misfire caused > by > > dielectric grease be? The reason I ask is my 95 > M3 > > (which I changed the plugs back in Oct/Nov and > used > > dielectric grease thinking I was going "the extra > > mile"), just failed HC emissions (limit is 220 and > > mine was 540). I don't really notice any > skipping, > > but then again maybe I'm just used to it?? I'm > just > > trying to hunt down what the problem might be. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Paul > > 95 M3 > > > > > > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> > >> Gary, > >> If you intend to put Dielectric grease on the > plug > >> ends of the wires, > >> don't. Seal's on the BMW wires are very good and > >> won't allow much , if any, > >> moisture into the connector end. The problem with > >> grease is that it can in > >> fact cause the boot to come off of the plug and > then > >> the resulting misfire > >> will cause raw fuel to get pumped into the cat > and > >> this will cause the cat > >> to go red hot and fail. Just make sure the plug > >> insulator is clean when > >> installing. > >> > >> Also, a piece of straight rubber hose that snugs > on > >> the insulator can aid > >> in putting it into the plug hole if your 16mm > socket > >> doesn't have the > >> rubber insert. > >> > >> If the '91 has distributorless ignition than just > >> dress the low voltage > >> side of the connector to the coils with Stabilant > or > >> DeOxit gold. > >> > >> -Kevin > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> This e-mail communication is confidential and > is > >> intended only > >> for the individual(s) or entity named above and > >> others who have > >> been specifically authorized to receive it. If > >> you are not the > >> intended recipient, please do not read, copy, > >> use or disclose > >> the contents of this communication to others. > >> Please notify the > >> sender that you have received this e-mail in > >> error by replying > >> to the e-mail. Please then delete the e-mail > and > >> any copies of > >> it. Thank you. > >> > >> > >> > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Search the > >> > > > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > >> > >> > >> > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > >> In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > >> founder of the BMW CCA. > >> > >> UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > >> home of the Ultimate > >> Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > >> 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > >> > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam > protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, > founder of the BMW CCA. > > > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and > home of the Ultimate > > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 11:09:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: E46M3 trans and diff fluid recommendations Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I wonder why moly powder isn't already mixed in with off-the-shelf tranny fluid. Is it because some transmissions or other applications of the fluid don't like it? --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 14:31:52 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Andre Yew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <[email protected]> Subject: Re: E46M3 trans and diff fluid recommendations Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Some oils come that way, and moly additives are easy to get. Probably cost more than any other reason. I use moly in my compressor and lawnmower also. Transmission, rear axle and power steering. Micro-size powder will work in the engine, but I haven't tried it in a BMW engine. Thin lubricants consume less power but may allow metal to metal touching at very low speed where there is a poor hydrodynamic wedge between parts. This is where the moly helps. It is a dry lube that takes over in those conditions. Gary Derian >I wonder why moly powder isn't already mixed in with off-the-shelf tranny > fluid. Is it because some transmissions or other applications of the > fluid don't like it? > > --Andre > > > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 14:10:44 -0400 From: Neil Maller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: M42 Spark Plugs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 6/5/06 1:04 PM, "Scott & Charlotte Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 5. Does Sears carry a 16mm spark plug socket? If not, who does? > (I've got a Sears gift certificate, so that would be ideal. Not like > I need Snap-On tools for the little work I do at home.) 5/8" = 15.875mm or 16mm close enough, so for spark plugs they're often sold as the same thing. > This would, of course, have deprived everyone else of the opportunity to make > snide comments and critical remarks, so public posting was definitely the way > to go. Well duh! <g> Neil 96 M3 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 13:31:04 -0400 From: "Rafael Garces" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'UUC Digest'" <[email protected]> Subject: Opportunity to tell BMW what you're looking for Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Everyone, BMW is trying to get 1,000 "BMW passionate customers" to give their opinions by June 11th. If you are interested in participating, follow the link in Wynne's email below. Rafael (no affiliation with any of these organizations) > -----Original Message----- > From: On Behalf Of Wynne Smith > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 10:55 AM > Subject: Opportunity to tell BMW what you're looking for > > I was approached by Steve Kantor the President of Orange Passion > because as part of their new business venture with BMW NA, Orange > Passion, www.orangepassion.com, is looking for the most passionate > customers for to help create new products, services, and marketing > ideas and collaborate online. They have a meeting on June 12th in > NYC with a few BMW marketing executives, and we are launching an > effort to find 1,000 BMW passionate customers in 10 days to tell BMW > their creative ideas. Everyone's anonymous ideas will be shared with > everyone else and BMW execs. > > Could you please take 10 minutes to be incredibly creative and out-of- > the-box and share ideas on this 10 question survey? BMW Passionate > Customer Survey: > > http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?p=WEB225D35A44N7 > > Once you are done with it, if you know any friends, family, > colleagues, past co-workers, college buddies, and clients who have a > BMW and are passionate customers, please forward this email to them > so they can share ideas on the survey. If you request, you will be > emailed the results of the survey by June 12th. > > Thanks, > > Wynne Smith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 13:17:22 -0700 From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'UUC Digest'" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: Opportunity to tell BMW what you're looking for Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 10:31 AM 6/5/2006, Rafael Garces wrote: Not to be a downer or anything, but considering the proliferation of less-than-legitimate things on the 'Net, is there some way to verify that this is legitimate and done with the knowledge of BMWNA? Even a press release at bmwusa.com stating that they are in business with these folks would help. I work in the public sector so this type of stuff is always at the top of my thoughts. >Hi Everyone, > >BMW is trying to get 1,000 "BMW passionate customers" to give their opinions >by June 11th. If you are interested in participating, follow the link in >Wynne's email below. > >Rafael >(no affiliation with any of these organizations) > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: On Behalf Of Wynne Smith > > Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 10:55 AM > > Subject: Opportunity to tell BMW what you're looking for > > > > I was approached by Steve Kantor the President of Orange Passion > > because as part of their new business venture with BMW NA, Orange > > Passion, www.orangepassion.com, is looking for the most passionate > > customers for to help create new products, services, and marketing > > ideas and collaborate online. They have a meeting on June 12th in > > NYC with a few BMW marketing executives, and we are launching an > > effort to find 1,000 BMW passionate customers in 10 days to tell BMW > > their creative ideas. Everyone's anonymous ideas will be shared with > > everyone else and BMW execs. > > > > Could you please take 10 minutes to be incredibly creative and out-of- > > the-box and share ideas on this 10 question survey? BMW Passionate > > Customer Survey: > > > > http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?p=WEB225D35A44N7 > > > > Once you are done with it, if you know any friends, family, > > colleagues, past co-workers, college buddies, and clients who have a > > BMW and are passionate customers, please forward this email to them > > so they can share ideas on the survey. If you request, you will be > > emailed the results of the survey by June 12th. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Wynne Smith > > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jun 2006 11:34:31 -0700 From: Bob Sutterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: M42 Spark Plugs Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 6/5/06 8:44 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If I may ask a follow-up question or two, does the M42 in the E36 > use the same spark plugs as the M42 in the E30? I don't know. I ordered plugs and wires from Steve Haygood; he always sends the right stuff and cheap. Does the glovebox owner's manual specify a plug? > And where is the best kind of > place to buy di-electric grease? NAPA? Checker/Kragen/Shucks? Pep Boyzzz? Lowes? Home Depot? It's pretty common stuff. I slather it liberally under the hood to forestall corrosion. > Funny that I posted my questions to 2 e-mail groups and am > getting the answer from the car's previous owner. Could have > just sent a private e-mail. You have my phone numbers too, but I don't necessarily have any info in real-time. Or ever. > This would, of course, have deprived everyone else > of the opportunity to make snide comments and critical > remarks, so public posting was definitely the way to go. Likewise, you and I both would have missed the opportunity to expound publicly upon my shoddy, slipshod, haphazard, half-assed maintenance practices. You'll note I didn't send *my* daughter to SLO in that car :-) ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(14 messages) **********
