The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 398 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: To be young and stupid...(was: Speed Kills?) Re: To be young and stupid...(was: Speed Kills?) Re: To be young and stupid...(was: Speed Kills?) Re: To be young and stupid...(was: Speed Kills?) Re: To be young and stupid...(was: Speed Kills?) Re: To be young and stupid Re: To be young and stupid Re: To be young and stupid Re: To be young and stupid Re: To be young and stupid Re: To be young and stupid Re: (WOT) NJ State Troopers out in force Control Arm Rubber Boot needed Re: Control Arm Rubber Boot needed FS -- TMS/JimC chip for E30 325i 5sp
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:43:56 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Chet Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: To be young and stupid...(was: Speed Kills?) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> "claimed to have had to swerve to miss hitting a car." I'm sure it sounded like a good excuse at the time. :) Just be thankful he didn't hit anyone else and everyone walked away except the Cherry trees. OK, I'm in no way defending the kid...... No one else on this list did stupid things as a kid I'm sure. ;-) Perhaps the passengers in the car didn't want to face their parents when the police were called to pick them up? My folks would have kicked my a$$ and I knew it and you know if one takes off the others are likely to follow. I've 'run away' from law enforcement as a kid under far lesser circumstances. (although never leaving a friend behind to accept the wrath alone) I admit to being a stupid kid once (many years ago now) and did plenty of things that I probably shouldn't have which I learned from. It's all part of growing up and learning. I just hope I instill enough driving practice/skill and respect for the machine my son will someday pilot. With power comes responsibility! I agree with Bob, at least the kid showed some resolve. I learned vehicular responsibility and car control skills with a perfect car - 1979 fox body Mustang. It was a (carb.) 2.3L 4 cyl auto with >100k miles. Made 88 Hp when new and far less in the oil-burning state I bought it I'm sure. With a 2.47:1 final drive and a 3 speed auto it had nearly enough power to spin a tire (one wheel wonder) on gravel and that's about it. Given enough space, it could peg the speedo at 85mph, not a touch over though. Yes I tried it. Perfect for the 16 year-old male who has to A) buy/maintain their own car (with meager paper route savings) and B) insure it. Needless to say I still explored and exceeded the limits of that car and fortunately I learned how to handle that 88 Hp before I was able to afford anything faster. Thank my enthusiasm and slick roads for teaching me the basics of car control.....and a few near-miss incidents to shake my 16-year-old "I'm invincible" attitude. Many friends of mine wrecked cars that I was seriously jealous of and I never won a race with that Mustang. I never knew how clever my father was convincing me that this bright (okay, it was oxidized but recovered well-enough with a good buffing) red RUNNING hatchback Mustang was the better alternative to the '65 Chevelle project car (we had a 327 donor engine and 4 spd Muncie trans ready but I couldn't afford the project car at the time). It was a reasonably easy sell to the boy who could see the sporty styling and red paint on the running car but yearned for a 60's muscle car. Perhaps he learned through his experiences as a punk kid with a hotrod and figured I was better off not learning the same lessons? Cheers, Chet Dawes (better off after learning through experience) -----Original Message----- >From: Curtis Ingraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Feb 13, 2007 2:19 PM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [UUC] Speed Kills? > >Those other guys did not run away for the aerobic benefit. They have >something to hide. And you just know the "driver" hung around for >some reason other than to be a good citizen. > >Curt Ingraham >Oakland, CA > >Bob Sutterfield wrote: >> On 2/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > three of the car's four male teen occupants were running away into >> > a nearby golf course. The one who stayed behind claimed to have >> > been driving, and claimed to have had to swerve to miss hitting a car. >> >> Good for him, staying behind to take (at least some) responsibility >> face-to-face. >> He doesn't need friends like those anyway. >> -- >> Bob, father of two teenage boys ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:26:17 -0500 From: Matt Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: To be young and stupid...(was: Speed Kills?) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I'll admit to being a stupid (stoooopid?) adult (things have not changed much in 30 years). :^) Matt Murray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chet Dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I admit to being a stupid kid once (many years ago now) and did plenty of > things that I probably shouldn't have which I learned from. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:33:27 -0500 From: "Andy Messer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: To be young and stupid...(was: Speed Kills?) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >...fortunately I learned how to handle that 88 Hp before I was able to >afford anything faster. I think that is the crux of it all... With today's 'keeping up with the Jones'' attitude, new/young drivers find themselves the pilot of some serious power. A parent at work has a 17 yr old son who toasted the clutch and *warped* the flywheel of a WRX with 35k miles on it. His quote? "I was able to keep up with my friend's M3 with Launch Control until about 3rd gear." I asked said parent about their son's driving safety and the parent responded "He drives safely because I watch him like a hawk when I'm in the car." Egad. Now for the 'in my day' thing... I drove a 1986 Pontiac Parisienne station wagon with plastic wood siding. Not exactly awe-inspiring but nevertheless a fun vehicle in which to learn oversteer. I think Conforti could make some bux by offering detuned Shark injectors; cut a 225HP 325i down to about 125HP to have a great handling car that would take effort to abuse. Andy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:44:19 -0800 From: Bob Sutterfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: To be young and stupid...(was: Speed Kills?) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 2/13/07, Andy Messer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think Conforti could make some bux by offering detuned Shark > injectors; cut a 225HP 325i down to about 125HP to have a great > handling car that would take effort to abuse. That won two awards: biggest laughing coffee spew so far this week, and loudest "heck yeah I'd buy one". But only if there's a parental-override mode switch. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:50:09 -0800 From: Mark Gold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Andy Messer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected] Subject: Re: To be young and stupid...(was: Speed Kills?) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In my day I learned to drive in an '81 Pontiac LeMans, graduated to an '84 Bonneville (after I blew up the motor in the '81) and eventually drove an '85 Parisienne sedan until I got my '91 318ic. All (except the BMW) were hand me down's from my parents. They weren't pretty (nor terribly fast), but it taught me how to drive responsibly. Sincerely, Mark Gold Sacramento Valley Chapter BMWCCA On Feb 13, 2007, at 3:33 PM, Andy Messer wrote: > Now for the 'in my day' thing... I drove a 1986 Pontiac Parisienne > station > wagon with plastic wood siding. Not exactly awe-inspiring but > nevertheless > a fun vehicle in which to learn oversteer. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:00:19 -0500 From: Matt Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: To be young and stupid Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sez you. :^) I had a Dodge Coronet 440 (318 ci motor, why oh why did Dodge put the distributor back at the firewall?) station wagon. Definitely not as cool as a Vista Cruiser a friend had. I counted down the fabric plies in the tire to see how far I could go before the flat happened. =8^O Matt Murray ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Messer" > Now for the 'in my day' thing... I drove a 1986 Pontiac Parisienne station > wagon with plastic wood siding. Not exactly awe-inspiring but > nevertheless > a fun vehicle in which to learn oversteer. > Andy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 16:10:13 -0800 From: David Thomas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: To be young and stupid Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Tuesday 13 February 2007 4:00:19 pm Matt Murray wrote: > I had a Dodge Coronet 440 (318 ci motor, why oh why did Dodge put the > distributor back at the firewall?) station wagon. Definitely not as cool as > a Vista Cruiser a friend had. My first car was a '72 Datsun 510 with a really nasty L18 that I built (1st of many engines it had)...had a few young and stupid moments in that car but it sure taught me a lot about how to drive. Dave T. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 19:23:57 -0500 From: Matt Murray <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: To be young and stupid Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Betcha still wish you had that car now. :^) The Japanese 2002. :^) (hey, BMW content!) Matt Murray ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Thomas" > My first car was a '72 Datsun 510 with a really nasty L18 that I built > (1st of > many engines it had)...had a few young and stupid moments in that car but > it > sure taught me a lot about how to drive. > > Dave T. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 22:48:49 -0500 From: "Jason Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: To be young and stupid Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ok, My first car was a '77 Cheby Impala WAGON in sun-faded metallic brown flake. It had a 302 with a very anemic 2brl. carb. that got the 2.5ton land yacht that didn't go, stopped worse, and its handling was the thingies used to open the doors... but it was big enough to stuff a lot of kids in (some of which had sex in the back, with me driving and 6 other people in the car thank you!) After that I wanted to get a BMW, but got the poor-man's version instead (the Ford, which handles well enough and still goes OK for a Ford with 175K... besides it was all I could afford at the time) That battle wagon got me through High school, and college... and taught me how to handle a big unresponsive car and STAY out of trouble! I got it up to 80mph... once. Its unique aerodynamic properties made it feel like it was trying to impersonate those MB-CLK-GTRs on the Mulsane back in the '90s... it never really got much over 72 in normal cruise mode with that 3-speed slush box and motor that ran out of steam somewhere around 4000rpm. All these little buggers I have now are amazing... they stop quickly, go pretty good, and can get around things not too badly... but that wagon really taught me how to AVOID being in those situations to begin with! -Jason (looking forward to testing out those reflexes in tomorrow's joyous ice-filled commute) '86 951 "Sparky" '70 240Z "Dusty" '97 Contour "Bambi" '03 325xi "Daisy" ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 09:43:52 -0500 From: "Fuerst, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: To be young and stupid Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> What's the deal with Torinos? I remember my friend Dan spinning us on the thruway just outside Buffalo in a light snow going about 90. Chasing girls that obviously did not want to be caught! ;-) 1st -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Matt Bader Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 8:45 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] To be young and stupid . I remember my first (and only) high-speed spin doing about 90 in a Ford Torino with a 302. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:44:46 -0500 From: "Matt Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: To be young and stupid Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I learned to drive in a 1969 Chevy wagon when I was 13. Quite an experience. My friend's brother would take us out fishing early in the morning, and we'd drive around for about an hour first. I remember my first (and only) high-speed spin doing about 90 in a Ford Torino with a 302. I went through an S curve too fast and lost it at the tender age of 16. Fortunately, I never left the road, just spun around with my life flashing before my eyes. A friend of mine did a similar trick back then but ended up in somebody's front yard. We could have easily been those kids referred to in an earlier posting, only be the grace of God were we not. Some of my friends did get hurt in stupid accidents, though, and some died. What's the name for Jason's next car, "Thumper"? Matt Bader 1998 M3/4 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Kay Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 10:49 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [UUC] To be young and stupid Ok, My first car was a '77 Cheby Impala WAGON in sun-faded metallic brown flake. It had a 302 with a very anemic 2brl. carb. that got the 2.5ton land yacht that didn't go, stopped worse, and its handling was the thingies used to open the doors... but it was big enough to stuff a lot of kids in (some of which had sex in the back, with me driving and 6 other people in the car thank you!) After that I wanted to get a BMW, but got the poor-man's version instead (the Ford, which handles well enough and still goes OK for a Ford with 175K... besides it was all I could afford at the time) That battle wagon got me through High school, and college... and taught me how to handle a big unresponsive car and STAY out of trouble! I got it up to 80mph... once. Its unique aerodynamic properties made it feel like it was trying to impersonate those MB-CLK-GTRs on the Mulsane back in the '90s... it never really got much over 72 in normal cruise mode with that 3-speed slush box and motor that ran out of steam somewhere around 4000rpm. All these little buggers I have now are amazing... they stop quickly, go pretty good, and can get around things not too badly... but that wagon really taught me how to AVOID being in those situations to begin with! -Jason (looking forward to testing out those reflexes in tomorrow's joyous ice-filled commute) '86 951 "Sparky" '70 240Z "Dusty" '97 Contour "Bambi" '03 325xi "Daisy" Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 15:14:23 -0800 From: "Curtis Ingraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: (WOT) NJ State Troopers out in force Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> They're fighting the War on Terror. Curt Ingraham Jason Kay wrote: > Here in the home of UUC and BMWNA, the ever friendly state troopers (from > here-in affecionately called 'troops') have been patrolling a bit more than > usually... even for the Middle-Of-the-Month Quota time. > > Last Monday (yesterday) I saw no fewer than *8* of them patrolling 287 from > Rt80 north to the state line... the monday before I saw 7 and today I saw > 5... My usual number is something like 1-2 every-other day. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 08:06:01 -0500 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Control Arm Rubber Boot needed Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On my E28 M5, I have E32 740i aluminum control arms that currently list in the $400 range each. One of my boots has developed a split in the rubber bellows. I recall someone selling just the rubber piece. Anyone know of the source? Thanks, Ed ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 10:16:29 -0500 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: [email protected], [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Control Arm Rubber Boot needed Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mercedes Part number 201 330 00 85 should work for you. Brett Anderson KMS Ed MacVaugh wrote: > > On my E28 M5, I have E32 740i aluminum control arms that currently list > in the $400 range each. > > One of my boots has developed a split in the rubber bellows. > > I recall someone selling just the rubber piece. > > Anyone know of the source? > > Thanks, > > Ed > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected] > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:52:09 -0800 From: "Cyrus Liu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest <[email protected]> Subject: FS -- TMS/JimC chip for E30 325i 5sp Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Dear UUC list: Authentic JimC/Turner Motorsport chip for 5sp E30 325i Turner P/N T525-300 fits 88-92 E30 325i 5sp with Bosch DME P/N 0-261-200-525 per Turner's application list (see http://www.turnermotorsport.com/pages/chip_application_2006.pdf). $150 or BO. Non-cc PayPal or cash preferred. For buyers in SF Bay Area, qty (4) Mahle OC49 oil filters included. Delivery possible in SF, North SJ, or Fremont/Milpitas. Thanks, Cyrus 1995 525iA (at work now) 1990 325is w/ Alpinas (now at UC Davis) 1979 528i (who knows where she is now?) ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(15 messages) **********
