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Cheers, Till > On May 9, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Till Westmann <[email protected]> wrote: > > I’ve requested a users mailing list using the request form at [1]. > The listed moderators are our mentors and 2 volunteers (Mike and I). > > Cheers, > Till > > [1] https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator > >> On May 3, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mike Carey <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> Cool! >> >> On 5/3/15 5:08 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: >>> the way that moderation works at Apache is that moderators see candidate >>> messages in email with links to accept or reject. Reply with no >>> modifications works to accept the message. Reply-all accepts the message >>> and whitelists the sender. >>> >>> If no moderator takes action for several days, the message is deleted. >>> >>> Super simple and fast. The only obscure part is the the reply-all trick. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Mike Carey <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I could do it as well. (Does it just entail saying "this note may indeed >>>> pass" to a queue of msgs - a queue we'd all be trying to watch?) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Mike >>>> >>>> On 5/3/15 1:11 PM, Till Westmann wrote: >>>> >>>>> I agree with your feeling. If we decide to do it that way, I’m >>>>> volunteering to be another moderator. >>>>> >>>>> Are there other volunteers? >>>>> >>>>> On May 3, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Ted Dunning <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> My feeling is it doesn't hurt to have more moderators rather than fewer. >>>>>> Judicious white-listing allows the amount of moderation traffic to be >>>>>> driven to very low levels so the load on the moderators is very, very >>>>>> low. >>>>>> The cost of losing a moderator without quite knowing it it higher, I >>>>>> think, >>>>>> than the load on a number of moderators. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Till Westmann <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, the JIRA was not the right way to request this. >>>>>>> But before we do it the right way, we need a few moderators for the >>>>>>> list. >>>>>>> I assume that the mentors are the moderators for the other lists. >>>>>>> Is that the way it should be or should other PPMC members moderate as >>>>>>> well? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Till >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On May 2, 2015, at 18:30, Till Westmann <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Here’s the JIRA: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9580 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Till >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 2, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Till Westmann <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Ok, since nobody objected, I’ll ask for the users list. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Till >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2015, at 12:16 AM, Till Westmann <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Since this is just a procedural decision that has no impact outside >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> the AsterixDB podling, I think that the PPMC members (mentors + >>>>>>> initial >>>>>>> committer) are those who get to decide. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And as this is probably not a highly contested issue, we could take >>>>>>>>> this decision by lazy consensus [1], i.e. your proposal is accepted, >>>>>>> if >>>>>>> nobody objects within 72 hours. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Till >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 08:09, Mike Carey <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Given the discussions, I'd like to propose now that we close in on a >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> "two lists - dev and user" - answer to this one. I realize there are >>>>>>> tradeoffs, but because we do have some users already who are decidedly >>>>>>> non-developer types - and more coming - I'd like to have a list "for >>>>>>> them" >>>>>>> that encourages them to be on it (by its topics and volume). Is there a >>>>>>> way we can/should bring this to a vote/decision by those that get to >>>>>>> decide? (This will be our first case-study in a post-joining-incubation >>>>>>> decision. :-)) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 4/24/15 5:46 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Till Westmann <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> I’m not completely sure that I want one. We currently have one and >>>>>>>>>>>> it has some reasonable traffic and the discussions are at a >>>>>>> user-level. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also all developers are subscribed to the user-list, so developers >>>>>>>>>>>> are aware of user problems but not necessarily the other way >>>>>>> around. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think that works pretty well, but maybe a single list would work >>>>>>>>>>>> better. >>>>>>>> Thoughts from the other AsterixDB developers? >>>>>>>>>>>> What about automatically generated notifications, like Jira issues, >>>>>>>>>>>> commit messages, etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend to push those to a user list? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Jochen >>>>>>>>>>>> >> >
