I'd welcome to have another volunteer to replace me as a moderator. (As this would be my 9th or 10th list to moderate.) As Till wrote, list moderation isn't much of a burden. OTOH, it accumulates...
Thanks, Jochen On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Till Westmann <[email protected]> wrote: > Just found a link to the self-subscribe app [1] for committers on the mailing > lists page [2]. > The mailing lists for podlings are at the end of the (long!) dropdown. > > Cheers, > Till > > [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe > <https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe> > [2] http://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html > <http://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html> > >> On May 11, 2015, at 10:07 PM, Till Westmann <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I’ve also added this list to our incubation status page [1]. >> >> @Ian, could you add the new list to the readme when you update it again? >> >> Cheers, >> Till >> >> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/asterixdb.html >> <http://incubator.apache.org/projects/asterixdb.html> >> >>> On May 11, 2015, at 9:45 PM, Till Westmann <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> [email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]> is available now. >>> Please subscribe to it, so that we can close the old list down. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Till >>> >>>> On May 9, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Till Westmann <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I’ve requested a users mailing list using the request form at [1]. >>>> The listed moderators are our mentors and 2 volunteers (Mike and I). >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Till >>>> >>>> [1] https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator >>>> <https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator> >>>> >>>>> On May 3, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mike Carey <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Cool! >>>>> >>>>> On 5/3/15 5:08 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: >>>>>> the way that moderation works at Apache is that moderators see candidate >>>>>> messages in email with links to accept or reject. Reply with no >>>>>> modifications works to accept the message. Reply-all accepts the message >>>>>> and whitelists the sender. >>>>>> >>>>>> If no moderator takes action for several days, the message is deleted. >>>>>> >>>>>> Super simple and fast. The only obscure part is the the reply-all trick. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Mike Carey <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> I could do it as well. (Does it just entail saying "this note may >>>>>>> indeed >>>>>>> pass" to a queue of msgs - a queue we'd all be trying to watch?) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 5/3/15 1:11 PM, Till Westmann wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I agree with your feeling. If we decide to do it that way, I’m >>>>>>>> volunteering to be another moderator. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Are there other volunteers? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 3, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Ted Dunning <[email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> My feeling is it doesn't hurt to have more moderators rather than >>>>>>>>> fewer. >>>>>>>>> Judicious white-listing allows the amount of moderation traffic to be >>>>>>>>> driven to very low levels so the load on the moderators is very, very >>>>>>>>> low. >>>>>>>>> The cost of losing a moderator without quite knowing it it higher, I >>>>>>>>> think, >>>>>>>>> than the load on a number of moderators. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Till Westmann <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Well, the JIRA was not the right way to request this. >>>>>>>>>> But before we do it the right way, we need a few moderators for the >>>>>>>>>> list. >>>>>>>>>> I assume that the mentors are the moderators for the other lists. >>>>>>>>>> Is that the way it should be or should other PPMC members moderate as >>>>>>>>>> well? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>> Till >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On May 2, 2015, at 18:30, Till Westmann <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Here’s the JIRA: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9580 >>>>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9580> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> Till >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On May 2, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Till Westmann <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, since nobody objected, I’ll ask for the users list. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Till >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2015, at 12:16 AM, Till Westmann <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Since this is just a procedural decision that has no impact >>>>>>>>>>>>> outside >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> the AsterixDB podling, I think that the PPMC members (mentors + >>>>>>>>>> initial >>>>>>>>>> committer) are those who get to decide. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> And as this is probably not a highly contested issue, we could take >>>>>>>>>>>> this decision by lazy consensus [1], i.e. your proposal is >>>>>>>>>>>> accepted, >>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>> nobody objects within 72 hours. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Till >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 08:09, Mike Carey <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given the discussions, I'd like to propose now that we close in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> "two lists - dev and user" - answer to this one. I realize there >>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>> tradeoffs, but because we do have some users already who are >>>>>>>>>> decidedly >>>>>>>>>> non-developer types - and more coming - I'd like to have a list "for >>>>>>>>>> them" >>>>>>>>>> that encourages them to be on it (by its topics and volume). Is >>>>>>>>>> there a >>>>>>>>>> way we can/should bring this to a vote/decision by those that get to >>>>>>>>>> decide? (This will be our first case-study in a >>>>>>>>>> post-joining-incubation >>>>>>>>>> decision. :-)) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/24/15 5:46 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Till Westmann >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> I’m not completely sure that I want one. We currently have one and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it has some reasonable traffic and the discussions are at a >>>>>>>>>> user-level. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Also all developers are subscribed to the user-list, so developers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are aware of user problems but not necessarily the other way >>>>>>>>>> around. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think that works pretty well, but maybe a single list would work >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better. >>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts from the other AsterixDB developers? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about automatically generated notifications, like Jira >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commit messages, etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend to push those to a user list? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jochen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- Any world that can produce the Taj Mahal, William Shakespeare, and Stripe toothpaste can't be all bad. (C.R. MacNamara, One Two Three)
