I’ve also added this list to our incubation status page [1]. @Ian, could you add the new list to the readme when you update it again?
Cheers, Till [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/asterixdb.html <http://incubator.apache.org/projects/asterixdb.html> > On May 11, 2015, at 9:45 PM, Till Westmann <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > > [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]> is available now. > Please subscribe to it, so that we can close the old list down. > > Cheers, > Till > >> On May 9, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Till Westmann <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> I’ve requested a users mailing list using the request form at [1]. >> The listed moderators are our mentors and 2 volunteers (Mike and I). >> >> Cheers, >> Till >> >> [1] https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator >> <https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator> >> >>> On May 3, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mike Carey <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Cool! >>> >>> On 5/3/15 5:08 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: >>>> the way that moderation works at Apache is that moderators see candidate >>>> messages in email with links to accept or reject. Reply with no >>>> modifications works to accept the message. Reply-all accepts the message >>>> and whitelists the sender. >>>> >>>> If no moderator takes action for several days, the message is deleted. >>>> >>>> Super simple and fast. The only obscure part is the the reply-all trick. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Mike Carey <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I could do it as well. (Does it just entail saying "this note may indeed >>>>> pass" to a queue of msgs - a queue we'd all be trying to watch?) >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> On 5/3/15 1:11 PM, Till Westmann wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I agree with your feeling. If we decide to do it that way, I’m >>>>>> volunteering to be another moderator. >>>>>> >>>>>> Are there other volunteers? >>>>>> >>>>>> On May 3, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Ted Dunning <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> My feeling is it doesn't hurt to have more moderators rather than fewer. >>>>>>> Judicious white-listing allows the amount of moderation traffic to be >>>>>>> driven to very low levels so the load on the moderators is very, very >>>>>>> low. >>>>>>> The cost of losing a moderator without quite knowing it it higher, I >>>>>>> think, >>>>>>> than the load on a number of moderators. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Till Westmann <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Well, the JIRA was not the right way to request this. >>>>>>>> But before we do it the right way, we need a few moderators for the >>>>>>>> list. >>>>>>>> I assume that the mentors are the moderators for the other lists. >>>>>>>> Is that the way it should be or should other PPMC members moderate as >>>>>>>> well? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>> Till >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On May 2, 2015, at 18:30, Till Westmann <[email protected] >>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Here’s the JIRA: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9580 >>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9580> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Till >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On May 2, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Till Westmann <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Ok, since nobody objected, I’ll ask for the users list. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Till >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2015, at 12:16 AM, Till Westmann <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Since this is just a procedural decision that has no impact outside >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> the AsterixDB podling, I think that the PPMC members (mentors + >>>>>>>> initial >>>>>>>> committer) are those who get to decide. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And as this is probably not a highly contested issue, we could take >>>>>>>>>> this decision by lazy consensus [1], i.e. your proposal is accepted, >>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>> nobody objects within 72 hours. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> Till >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html >>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 08:09, Mike Carey <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Given the discussions, I'd like to propose now that we close in on >>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> "two lists - dev and user" - answer to this one. I realize there are >>>>>>>> tradeoffs, but because we do have some users already who are decidedly >>>>>>>> non-developer types - and more coming - I'd like to have a list "for >>>>>>>> them" >>>>>>>> that encourages them to be on it (by its topics and volume). Is there >>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>> way we can/should bring this to a vote/decision by those that get to >>>>>>>> decide? (This will be our first case-study in a >>>>>>>> post-joining-incubation >>>>>>>> decision. :-)) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/24/15 5:46 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Till Westmann <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> I’m not completely sure that I want one. We currently have one and >>>>>>>>>>>>> it has some reasonable traffic and the discussions are at a >>>>>>>> user-level. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Also all developers are subscribed to the user-list, so developers >>>>>>>>>>>>> are aware of user problems but not necessarily the other way >>>>>>>> around. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think that works pretty well, but maybe a single list would work >>>>>>>>>>>>> better. >>>>>>>>> Thoughts from the other AsterixDB developers? >>>>>>>>>>>>> What about automatically generated notifications, like Jira >>>>>>>>>>>>> issues, >>>>>>>>>>>>> commit messages, etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend to push those to a user list? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Jochen >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>> >> >
