We currently have 7 moderators, so I think that we can just take you out (I guess that requires and infra-request, is that right?).
On the other hand I would be more than happy if we found another volunteer moderator! Cheers, Till > On May 11, 2015, at 11:05 PM, Jochen Wiedmann <[email protected]> > wrote: > > I'd welcome to have another volunteer to replace me as a moderator. > (As this would be my 9th or 10th list to moderate.) As Till wrote, > list moderation isn't much of a burden. OTOH, it accumulates... > > Thanks, > > Jochen > > > On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 7:57 AM, Till Westmann <[email protected]> wrote: >> Just found a link to the self-subscribe app [1] for committers on the >> mailing lists page [2]. >> The mailing lists for podlings are at the end of the (long!) dropdown. >> >> Cheers, >> Till >> >> [1] https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe >> <https://whimsy.apache.org/committers/subscribe> >> [2] http://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html >> <http://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html> >> >>> On May 11, 2015, at 10:07 PM, Till Westmann <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I’ve also added this list to our incubation status page [1]. >>> >>> @Ian, could you add the new list to the readme when you update it again? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Till >>> >>> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/projects/asterixdb.html >>> <http://incubator.apache.org/projects/asterixdb.html> >>> >>>> On May 11, 2015, at 9:45 PM, Till Westmann <[email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>> >>>> [email protected] >>>> <mailto:[email protected]> is available now. >>>> Please subscribe to it, so that we can close the old list down. >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Till >>>> >>>>> On May 9, 2015, at 9:14 AM, Till Westmann <[email protected] >>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I’ve requested a users mailing list using the request form at [1]. >>>>> The listed moderators are our mentors and 2 volunteers (Mike and I). >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Till >>>>> >>>>> [1] https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator >>>>> <https://infra.apache.org/officers/mlreq/incubator> >>>>> >>>>>> On May 3, 2015, at 11:41 PM, Mike Carey <[email protected] >>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Cool! >>>>>> >>>>>> On 5/3/15 5:08 PM, Ted Dunning wrote: >>>>>>> the way that moderation works at Apache is that moderators see candidate >>>>>>> messages in email with links to accept or reject. Reply with no >>>>>>> modifications works to accept the message. Reply-all accepts the >>>>>>> message >>>>>>> and whitelists the sender. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If no moderator takes action for several days, the message is deleted. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Super simple and fast. The only obscure part is the the reply-all >>>>>>> trick. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Mike Carey <[email protected] >>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I could do it as well. (Does it just entail saying "this note may >>>>>>>> indeed >>>>>>>> pass" to a queue of msgs - a queue we'd all be trying to watch?) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 5/3/15 1:11 PM, Till Westmann wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I agree with your feeling. If we decide to do it that way, I’m >>>>>>>>> volunteering to be another moderator. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Are there other volunteers? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On May 3, 2015, at 10:29 AM, Ted Dunning <[email protected] >>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> My feeling is it doesn't hurt to have more moderators rather than >>>>>>>>>> fewer. >>>>>>>>>> Judicious white-listing allows the amount of moderation traffic to be >>>>>>>>>> driven to very low levels so the load on the moderators is very, very >>>>>>>>>> low. >>>>>>>>>> The cost of losing a moderator without quite knowing it it higher, I >>>>>>>>>> think, >>>>>>>>>> than the load on a number of moderators. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sun, May 3, 2015 at 6:17 PM, Till Westmann <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Well, the JIRA was not the right way to request this. >>>>>>>>>>> But before we do it the right way, we need a few moderators for the >>>>>>>>>>> list. >>>>>>>>>>> I assume that the mentors are the moderators for the other lists. >>>>>>>>>>> Is that the way it should be or should other PPMC members moderate >>>>>>>>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>> well? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>> Till >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On May 2, 2015, at 18:30, Till Westmann <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Here’s the JIRA: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9580 >>>>>>>>>>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-9580> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Till >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On May 2, 2015, at 5:39 PM, Till Westmann <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, since nobody objected, I’ll ask for the users list. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Till >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 25, 2015, at 12:16 AM, Till Westmann <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since this is just a procedural decision that has no impact >>>>>>>>>>>>>> outside >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> the AsterixDB podling, I think that the PPMC members (mentors + >>>>>>>>>>> initial >>>>>>>>>>> committer) are those who get to decide. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And as this is probably not a highly contested issue, we could take >>>>>>>>>>>>> this decision by lazy consensus [1], i.e. your proposal is >>>>>>>>>>>>> accepted, >>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>> nobody objects within 72 hours. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Till >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <https://www.apache.org/foundation/voting.html> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 24, 2015, at 08:09, Mike Carey <[email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Given the discussions, I'd like to propose now that we close in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "two lists - dev and user" - answer to this one. I realize there >>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> tradeoffs, but because we do have some users already who are >>>>>>>>>>> decidedly >>>>>>>>>>> non-developer types - and more coming - I'd like to have a list "for >>>>>>>>>>> them" >>>>>>>>>>> that encourages them to be on it (by its topics and volume). Is >>>>>>>>>>> there a >>>>>>>>>>> way we can/should bring this to a vote/decision by those that get to >>>>>>>>>>> decide? (This will be our first case-study in a >>>>>>>>>>> post-joining-incubation >>>>>>>>>>> decision. :-)) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mike >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/24/15 5:46 AM, Jochen Wiedmann wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Till Westmann >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> I’m not completely sure that I want one. We currently have one and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it has some reasonable traffic and the discussions are at a >>>>>>>>>>> user-level. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Also all developers are subscribed to the user-list, so developers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are aware of user problems but not necessarily the other way >>>>>>>>>>> around. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think that works pretty well, but maybe a single list would work >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better. >>>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts from the other AsterixDB developers? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What about automatically generated notifications, like Jira >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commit messages, etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wouldn't recommend to push those to a user list? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jochen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > > -- > Any world that can produce the Taj Mahal, William Shakespeare, > and Stripe toothpaste can't be all bad. (C.R. MacNamara, One Two Three)
