Also we would need to have a way to detect malicious agents doing bogus
contributions to reserve handles. This is a separate issue that I would
prefer to keep out of this discussion for now.

On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 at 10:47 Paulo Motta <pa...@apache.org> wrote:

> One question that could come up is:
>
> * what if someone does a single commit, and the ID is reserved and blocked
> for posterity
>
> We could add a 1 year TTL where the contributor would need to do another
> commit within the next year to continue reserving the ID. This would
> incentivize people with reserved IDs to keep doing contributions to keep
> their reserved handles.
>
> On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 at 10:36 Paulo Motta <pa...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> > Imagine you've been granted committer privileges but you can't pick the
>> ID you want because it has been "reserved" by a non-committer,
>>
>> This can not possibly happen, because the committer that was granted
>> committer privileges has already reserved its own ID when it became a
>> contributor in its first commit to any apache project. :)
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 9:25 AM Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't think we should allow IDs to be "reserved": Imagine you've
>>> been granted committer privileges but you can't pick the ID you want
>>> because it has been "reserved" by a non-committer, it seems backward.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 8:37 AM Paulo Motta <pa...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > This is right Claude. Essentially, the people.apache.org handle can
>>> be seen
>>> > as a “handle reservation” to a future ASF ID handle, that will be
>>> granted
>>> > when the contributor becomes a committee.
>>> >
>>> > So it’s basically a pre-ASF ID handle granted to contributors without
>>> any
>>> > privileges or login (except the people.apache.org auto-generated
>>> > contributor page).
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, 20 Mar 2024 at 09:19 Claude Warren <cla...@xenei.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2024 at 12:55 AM Paulo Motta <pa...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > > 3. John Doe fills a simple form and selects the username
>>> "doejohn", which
>>> > > > is not an ASF id, but just a handle to a people.apache.org page.
>>> If an
>>> > > ASF
>>> > > > id exists with the same name, then the request is rejected.
>>> > > > 6. After some years of contributions, John Doe is invited to be a
>>> > > committer
>>> > > > of Apache Foo.
>>> > > >   a. John can "convert" its username "doejohn" into an ASF ID, or
>>> can
>>> > > > choose another ASF ID handle when becoming a committer.
>>> > > >   b. This kicks-off an update to people.apache.org/~doejohn to
>>> change
>>> > > the
>>> > > > role from "ASF Contributor" to "Committer at Apache Foo"
>>> > > >
>>> > > >
>>> > > The above 2 points indicate that our new committer registration would
>>> > > require that no handles used on people.apache.org be granted as an
>>> ASF id.
>>> > > Seems like we need a way to track the union of ASF Id and
>>> > > people.apache.org
>>> > > handles.
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/claudewarren
>>> > >
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