On Feb 14, 6:21 pm, David Nyman <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 14 February 2011 12:35, 1Z <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Oh come on. How can you say that after I just told
> > you 7 doesn't exist.
>
> Wouldn't this then imply that computation also doesn't exist, in an
> analogous sense?

I can still have seven eggs in my fridge, and I can still
have a computation running on a physical computer.

>  And that consequently any computational
> characterisation of the mental is in itself a mere fiction, reducing
> to whatever physical behaviour is picked out under the rules of a
> formal "game"?

If computation is multiply realisable, it never reduces to
any particular physical behaviour, even if it always instantiated a
such

>  I recall that you aren't committed to CTM per se, but
> if what you say about mathematics is true, and only the physical is
> real, wouldn't it follow a priori that CTM just eliminates the mind?

No. Every running programme is physical. Only programmes
with nothing to run on are eliminated

> I know you've said before that reduction isn't elimination, but I'm
> not clear what is supposed to have any claim to "reality" here, other
> than the physical tokens instantiating the "computation".
>
> David


If you have a physical token running a computation, you have
a computation. What is eliminated?

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