Outside of QTI, does anyone consider any hypothesis as 'viable' for "immortality"? I am not sure that I mean, never dying, I think I mean, some kind of continuation, beyond our current 'mortality" ? I am not meaning Uploading while still alive, or brain in a vat; but basically, an afterlife of some kind? I ask, realizing, that cosmology and consciousness, do not, by necessity, dovetail (UDA?). Thanks for your patience, everyone.
Mitch -----Original Message----- From: Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> Sent: Tue, Nov 15, 2011 9:21 am Subject: Re: The consciousness singularity n 14 Nov 2011, at 18:39, benjayk wrote: > I have a few more ideas to add, considering how this singularity might work in practice. I think that actually consciousness does not start in a linear fashion in our coherent material world, but creates an infinity of semi-coherent beginngs all the time (at all levels of consciousness), which might be termed "virtual experiences", that exist right now. These are experiences are more akin to exploring the possibility space than having a consistent world (though they have to have a relative consistency, no one wants to experience random noise). This would explain the encounters with intelligent entities encountered on drug trips (sometimes dreams and meditation), that seem very conscious. It seems hard to explain where they could come from in coventional terms (future, spririt world, parallel universes, etc...?). Why not mind subroutine? Living in Platonia, and manifesting through rain's module? his is already the case if mechanism is correct. > My theory is that they are virtual beings, that really experience, but in them consciousness has not yet decided by which "real" entitiy (like a human) it is experienced, in which way the real subjective future will be experienced (there already might exist a virtual future, though), when it is experienced in reality and how exactly the experience is reflected to outside observers. The thema of this list is that virtual or possible = real. Real = irtual seen from inside. You are reintroducing a suspect reality selection principle, similar o the "wave collapse". Bruno They are somehow left in abeyance. In the future, and partially already in the present, we might download these experiences and interface them with our normal history. With download, I mean experience them, and giving them a context, so they can become actual in a manner that makes sense in our reality. This can happen in our imagination, in our dreams, through playing games, reading books, surfing the internet and on trips. As we download the experience, we may infuse it with our personality/humaness (this often felt as merging with entities on trips), which leads to more consistent development in the virtual realm (so that entities can exist that are stable enough to make a clear and consistent communication possible). On the other hand, by downloading experiences, we can infuse our realm with creative new ideas (and the possibility of paranormal events), bring these virtual realm on earth. If we learn to navigate this virtual realm more efficiently in the future, it might be immensly powerful. For example, it allows the interaction between physically seperated entities. Or it may allow us to make time jumps (of course not collectively, since someone has to be there to make the time that we skip). That would allow for truly awesomely fast subjective development. Imagine you live your life, and at some point a virtual entities contacts you to die and jump 1000000 years into the future (where you get an appropiate body and mind for that future, of course). Right now we can't jump, because we need everyone on earth to make the world in normal time work. But if we learn to virtualize ourselves (/navigate the virtual realm) we may, instead of going to the world ourselves, send "copies" for some time (that are "played" by other ones) and in that way prolong the time until we have to come to earth (or whatever exists then) again. benjayk -- View this message in context: http://old.nabble.com/The-consciousness-singularity-tp32803353p32842071.html Sent from the Everything List mailing list archive at Nabble.com. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > . For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en > . http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- ou received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Everything List" group. o post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. o unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. or more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
