Hi Stathis Papaioannou It would be useful if the ratbrain robot scientists would try to do some kind of biological imaging (magnetic resonance ? who knows ?) to verify that the segment of rat brain isn't just acting as an electrical conductor (or resistor or capacitor or inductor).
Maybe they could just mo9nitor some of those functions during its operations. Roger , [email protected] 8/17/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Stathis Papaioannou Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-08-16, 19:54:11 Subject: Re: A rat brain robot On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Craig Weinberg <[email protected]> wrote: > It's begging the question to say the computer chips have 'the same > functionality' as a rat's brain and then presume to claim that demonstrates > functional equivalence. > > The whole question is what is meant by functionality. Do the computer chips > metabolize oxygen? Do they produce antibodies to rat viruses? Again I point > to my cymatics example. I can generate cymatic patterns on a monitor screen > using computer chips without there being any sound associated with their > production at all. There is no reason whatsoever to assume that any computer > chip could ever have 'the same function' as a living cell. Function is a > transactional relation, it is necessary but not sufficient to assure > awareness. We're not interested in those other functions. What we're interested in, essentially, is whether the robot rat controlled by the computer chips moves in similar manner to a biological rat. You look at the robot rat and the biological rat for an arbitrary length of time and try to guess which is which. Do you think you could guess correctly? What aspects of the robot rat's movements do you think would give it away? -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
