On 8/14/2012 6:24 PM, Craig Weinberg wrote:

On Tuesday, August 14, 2012 2:25:31 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:

    So the neurons of a rat's brain can constitute a mind, but computer chips 
with the
    same functionality can't?


It's begging the question to say the computer chips have 'the same functionality' as a rat's brain and then presume to claim that demonstrates functional equivalence.

The whole question is what is meant by functionality. Do the computer chips metabolize oxygen? Do they produce antibodies to rat viruses?

Do they make the little cybot do the same things?

Again I point to my cymatics example. I can generate cymatic patterns on a monitor screen using computer chips without there being any sound associated with their production at all. There is no reason whatsoever to assume that any computer chip could ever have 'the same function' as a living cell. Function is a transactional relation, it is necessary but not sufficient to assure awareness.

And you know this how?


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