2012/8/31 Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> > > On 30 Aug 2012, at 20:01, meekerdb wrote: > > On 8/29/2012 11:19 PM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > I might write a longer comment, but I will be a bit busy those days. > > Here are some references on the fact that cannabis can cure cancer: > > Cannabis selectively target cancerous cell, and makes them auto-phage > (eating themselves): > > http://www.jci.org/articles/view/37948 (original spain paper) > > And we know that since 1974. When I read that in Jack Herer book, I > did'nt belive it, until the spanish rediscovered this: > > http://www.mapinc.org/newstcl/v01/n572/a11.html > > http://www.safeaccess.ca/research/cancer.htm > > http://www.gsalternative.com/2010/05/cannabinoids-kill-cancer/ > > > > I see I was too quick in my skepticism about cannabis affecting cancer. > > > Quentin, did you mix cannabis with tobacco? With alcohol. Those > combination are known to be addictive, but there is no statistical > evidences for cannabis alone. I agree with you Quentin, it uses can be > dangerous, but the use of windows too. > > Brent, there are no evidences that cannabis is a problem for lungs. The > one found have been debunked: > > > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/25/AR2006052501729.html > > > I never supposed it did. I just supposed that drawing smoke in your lungs > probably isn't good for them. > > > Actually we have good reason to suspect the presence of strong oncogen > (inducing cancer) molecules in the cannabis tar. The cannabis tar is indeed > quite dangerous in that respect when studied ... in vitro. But then when > statistics are done on large human pot smokers population, not only cancers > don't show up, but a reduction of cancer is observed. The probable > explanation is that some cannabinoids are more effective against cancer > than the oncogen molecules. >
Well I still remain perplex, because the most common usage is joint with mixing tobacco, what sort of cannabis smocker are taken in those studies ? How does they choose/find them ? Are those studies representative of the cannabis smockers ? Lot of people who smockes cannabis, smockes also cigarettes, does it affect the result ? Prohibition is bad, not because "cannabis" could cure cancer, it's bad because it destroy live for stupid reasons. Quentin > > > > > > > > By googling on cannabis cancer, you will more information. I count up to > 173 cancers where cannabinoids can help to cure. Many youtbe video provides > indivvidual witnessing also, notably on babies like this one: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcI5tWYr6do > > > In this case it appears that the main effect of the cannabis was as > anti-nausea, which of course helps to cure the cancer, while there were a > half-dozen other drugs that might have killed the cancer cells. > > > It is hard to derive a general proposition from one case. You might be > right, but it seems that THC injection might just be more efficacious > against cancer than chemo and radio therapies. > > Some plant like cannabis and salvia seems to have strong beneficial > influence of the immune system, but of course we have still a lot to learn. > From 1800 to 1900, it seems that most medication was based on hemp, and > that might be true since a much longer time. > > The illegality of cannabis is a recent phenomenon, entirely based on lies. > It is not more dangerous than beer, and actually much less dangerous. > People habituated to cannabis does not get problem with liver, blood, > brain, etc. It is, as an inebriant, *much safer than alcohol. > > Anyway, drugs problem is a problem of health, not of criminality. > Addiction is easy to cure, when you don't make the cure illegal, like in > the US and Belgium, where Tabernanthe iboga is illegal, despite one session > with it cures addiction. Prohibition leads to corruption and black money > addiction. It is a killer of democracy. > > Bruno > > > > > On 29 Aug 2012, at 17:26, meekerdb wrote: > > On 8/29/2012 7:03 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > We know since 1974 that cannabis cures cancer, (american discovery hidden > by Bush senior) but it is only since this has been rediscovered in Spain, > that some media talk about it, but it does not yet make the headline. > How many people died of cancer since? I can give you tuns of references > and links on this, but the same lies continue. > > > The media talk about anything. You're going off the rails there, Bruno. > There's no way cannabis cures cancer. If anything, smoking marijuana will > cause lung cancer - though maybe not so much as tobacco. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
