Hi Craig Weinberg
Her amygdala was damaged, not removed. It would be interesting to study a person who lost or never had an amygdala. My thinking on the amygdala as self is that it is so very, very basic, as self mnust be. The possibility of fear fight-or-flight is about as basic as you can get, as well as for fighting. You need a sense of self in order to fight . Even reptiles have to have some sort of sense of self to avoid enemies. So it would be iunteresting to see what hapopens if the amygdala is totally removed from a mouse or snake. Roger Clough, [email protected] 9/11/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Craig Weinberg Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-11, 08:30:14 Subject: Re: The self (the amygdala) and the triune brain Nah, the function of the amygdala only contributes one range of sense and motive to the self. http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/brain-and-behavior/articles/2010/12/16/brain-anomaly-leaves-woman-without-fear This woman has no amygdala, but besides not being able to experience or act out of fear, "she is otherwise cognitively typical and experiences other emotions such as happiness and sadness." The self is orthogonal to it's shadows (brain, body, cells, clothes, house, planet). The self is a lifetime. It is an experience of significance through time, nothing more or less. On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:06:05 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote: The self (the amygdala) and the triune brain Since neuroscience omits or seems not to feature the most important part of the brain, the self, I've decided to try to locate it. I believe it is the amygdala. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KY_sgX2gAMY/Tg1zrbUs_fI/AAAAAAAAAfM/-XBfGi_O0RU/s1600/triune%2Bbrain.gif The amygdala is a small brain organ which is not pictured in the above diagram but is in the center of the reptelian brain in the above diagram. In fact it is at the well-protected center of the entire brain, where common sense, overall access to brain functions, and necessary survival tells you it ought to be. Its function is to alert you to anything dangerous in your path such as a snake. Thus it must have two functions, a cognitive one to tell a branch from a snake, and an affective one (fear) to cause you to jump back from the snake. amygdala = cognitive + affective Although neuroscience does not consider consciousness to be a dipole as below: Cs = subject + object It is a logical necessity. My suggestion is that the subject is the amygdala and the object is any needed part of the brain (you can find maps of these through Google. In this model, consciousness is at the bottom based on feelings, such as the sense of passing time,or self-centered fear. Above or beyond are the cognitive functions necessary for thinking and image perception. Roger Clough, [email protected] 9/11/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/sHOCiL_SZMwJ. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
