Hi Bruno Marchal Thanks.
Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/12/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." ----- Receiving the following content ----- From: Bruno Marchal Receiver: everything-list Time: 2012-09-11, 13:25:05 Subject: Re: The self (the amygdala) and the triune brain On 11 Sep 2012, at 13:33, Alberto G. Corona wrote: The idea of looking for a spatio-temporal location of the mental (or soul) categories in the brain is wrong IHMO, and it is surprising to heart this from you Roger. Brain localization of mental functions is like trying to locate physically the spell checker of a word processor in the hardware of a personal computer. The spell checker uses most of the hardware. But there are low level computer functions that are physically located, such are the floating point unit, the memory transfer unit etc. There are a parallelism in the brain: IHMO there is a confusion between very specialized functions, like sensory processing, which are localized for reasons of processing efficiency and wider, higuer level functions like the self, which are not subject to this restriction. As far as i know, the amygdala is part of these efficiency-constrained parts of the brain. For this reason it is almost a separate organ. It is in charge of early processing of sensory data to trigger rapid responses before they are consciously analysed. You can't locate the first person mind, but you can locate relatively to you the 3p modules responsible for the relative (to you) manifestation of that mind. In fine, that local 3p is only an 1p-plural due to the 1p indeterminacy on all the arithmetical realization of those manifestation, so the "exact 3p picture" is more complex, and involves infinities of computations. Bruno 2012/9/11 Roger Clough <rclo...@verizon.net> The self (the amygdala) and the triune brain Since neuroscience omits or seems not to feature the most important part of the brain, the self, I've decided to try to locate it. I believe it is the amygdala. http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KY_sgX2gAMY/Tg1zrbUs_fI/AAAAAAAAAfM/-XBfGi_O0RU/s1600/triune%2Bbrain.gif <amygdala triune brain.png> The amygdala is a small brain organ which is not pictured in the above diagram but is in the center of the reptelian brain in the above diagram. In fact it is at the well-protected center of the entire brain, where common sense, overall access to brain functions, and necessary survival tells you it ought to be. Its function is to alert you to anything dangerous in your path such as a snake. Thus it must have two functions, a cognitive one to tell a branch from a snake, and an affective one (fear) to cause you to jump back from the snake. amygdala = cognitive + affective Although neuroscience does not consider consciousness to be a dipole as below: Cs = subject + object It is a logical necessity. My suggestion is that the subject is the amygdala and the object is any needed part of the brain (you can find maps of these through Google. In this model, consciousness is at the bottom based on feelings, such as the sense of passing time,or self-centered fear. Above or beyond are the cognitive functions necessary for thinking and image perception. Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 9/11/2012 Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him so that everything could function." -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
