Hi Roger, No, that is not what the article says:
"Researchers who have studied a woman with *a missing amygdala*" "S.M. suffers from an extremely rare disease that *destroyed her amygdala*." It's as straightforward as it can be. The idea that the amygala constitutes the entire experience of selfhood is not supported in any way. Craig On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 8:49:23 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote: > > Hi Craig Weinberg > > > Her amygdala was damaged, not removed. > It would be interesting to study a person who lost or never > had an amygdala. > > My thinking on the amygdala as self is that it > is so very, very basic, as self mnust be. > The possibility of fear fight-or-flight is about as basic > as you can get, as well as for fighting. > You need a sense of self in order to fight . > > > Even reptiles have to have some > sort of sense of self to avoid enemies. > So it would be iunteresting to see what hapopens if the > amygdala is totally removed from a mouse or snake. > > > > Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net <javascript:> > 9/11/2012 > Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him > so that everything could function." > > ----- Receiving the following content ----- > *From:* Craig Weinberg <javascript:> > *Receiver:* everything-list <javascript:> > *Time:* 2012-09-11, 08:30:14 > *Subject:* Re: The self (the amygdala) and the triune brain > > Nah, the function of the amygdala only contributes one range of sense > and motive to the self. > > > http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/brain-and-behavior/articles/2010/12/16/brain-anomaly-leaves-woman-without-fear > > This woman has no amygdala, but besides not being able to experience or > act out of fear, "she is otherwise cognitively typical and experiences > other emotions such as happiness and sadness." > > The self is orthogonal to it's shadows (brain, body, cells, clothes, > house, planet). The self is a lifetime. It is an experience of significance > through time, nothing more or less. > > > On Tuesday, September 11, 2012 7:06:05 AM UTC-4, rclough wrote: >> >> >> >> The self (the amygdala) and the triune brain >> >> Since neuroscience omits or seems not to feature the most important part >> of the brain, the self, >> I've decided to try to locate it. I believe it is the amygdala. >> >> >> http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-KY_sgX2gAMY/Tg1zrbUs_fI/AAAAAAAAAfM/-XBfGi_O0RU/s1600/triune%2Bbrain.gif >> >> >> >> >> The amygdala is a small brain organ which is not pictured in the above >> diagram >> but is in the center of the reptelian brain in the above diagram. In fact >> it is at the >> well-protected center of the entire brain, where common sense, overall >> access to >> brain functions, and necessary survival tells you it ought to be. Its >> function is to alert >> you to anything dangerous in your path such as a snake. Thus it must have >> two functions, a cognitive one to tell a branch from a snake, and >> an affective one (fear) to cause you to jump back from the snake. >> >> amygdala = cognitive + affective >> >> Although neuroscience does not consider consciousness to be a dipole as >> below: >> >> Cs = subject + object >> >> >> It is a logical necessity. My suggestion is that the subject is the >> amygdala >> and the object is any needed part of the brain (you can find maps of >> these >> through Google. >> >> In this model, consciousness is at the bottom based on feelings, >> such as the sense of passing time,or self-centered fear. Above or >> beyond are >> the cognitive functions necessary for thinking and image perception. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net >> 9/11/2012 >> Leibniz would say, "If there's no God, we'd have to invent him >> so that everything could function." >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/sHOCiL_SZMwJ. > To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com<javascript:> > . > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msg/everything-list/-/zDdpF0cyFSgJ. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
