On 25 Sep 2012, at 19:06, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Tuesday, September 25, 2012 3:02:05 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 24 Sep 2012, at 18:16, Craig Weinberg wrote:
On Monday, September 24, 2012 5:13:11 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 23 Sep 2012, at 20:11, Craig Weinberg wrote:
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> On Sunday, September 23, 2012 11:28:49 AM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal
wrote:
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> On 23 Sep 2012, at 15:05, Roger Clough wrote:
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> > Hi Evgenii Rudnyi
> >
> >
> > Phenomena are the how physical processes appear to our senses.
> > So they are appearances, not the processes themselves.
> > But scientific experiments and measurements are not
> > made on the appearances, they are made on the
> > processes. Thus the appearences areor [phenomena
> > are said to be "well-grounded" in the processes themselves.
> >
> > Kant spelled this out in great detail, calling "noumena" the
> > actual physical process which we cannot reach by our senses,
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>
> And which does not exist, at least not in the sense that they cause
> our senses.
> This is the most counter-intuitive aspect of comp, as the physical
> process are projection on the conditions making the dream coherent.
>
> Why does comp want coherent dreams?
Coherent dreams are reasonable data.
Why does comp want reasonable data?
Comp does not want them. We have them. They are what *we* want to
explain. Comp is just the working hypothesis.
It's circular though. Why do we have them?
To be short, because we accept the arithmetical truth.
Comp is your working hypothesis, not mine :)
This make coherent your belief in matter. But you are back at the
start of the mind body problem, as you assume everything we want to
explain (mind, body, and their relation).
Bruno
Craig
Bruno
Comp has to justify their
existence (easy, with comp), and their relative measure (hard).
Bruno
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