On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > "You" mean the Helsinki guy. >
OK, so if you are the Helsinki guy and the Helsinki guy is the guy who is still experiencing Helsinki then the answer to the question "what city will you see when you push that button?" is no city at all. > To remain the Helsinki guy, you need only to remember having been the > Helsinki guy. > OK, so if you are the Helsinki guy and the Helsinki guy is the guy who remembers being the Helsinki guy and BOTH the Moscow man AND the Washington man remember being the Helsinki guy then the answer to the question "what city will you see when you push that button?" is Washington only AND Moscow only, because "you" HAS BEEN DUPLICATED. And no amount of peeing is going to get you out of this mess. > There is no problem with the pronouns Far from being a problem pronouns, especially personal pronouns, are absolutely essential for Bruno to communicate ideas, without them and the ambiguity they invariably produce the logical absurdity that Bruno's proof is based on would stand out in stark relief. Pronouns are good hiding places from that pesky thing called logical analysis. > So now you agree that phenomenologically the comp indeterminacy is > similar as the quantum indeterminacy > I don't know perhaps I do agree, but before I know for sure I'll first have to figure out what "comp" is, and then figure out what phenomenological comp indeterminacy is; fortunately I already know what quantum indeterminacy is. > Try to move on step 4, > In other words try to forget that step 4 and all the steps after it are built on a foundation as sturdy as jello. Sorry I can't do that. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.