On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 8:20 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/11/2013 2:12 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:33 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 1/10/2013 4:23 PM, Telmo Menezes wrote: >> >> Do you think there can be something that is intelligent but not complex >>> (and use whatever definitions of "intelligent" and "complex" you want). >>> >> >> A thermostat is much less complex than a human brain but intelligent >> under my definition. >> >> >> But much less intelligent. >> > > That's your conclusion, not mine. According to my definition you can > only compare thermostats being good at being thermostats and Brents being > good at being Brents. Because you can only compare intelligence against a > same set of goals. Otherwise you're just saying that intelligence A is more > complex than intelligence B. Human intelligence requires a certain level of > complexity, bacteria intelligence another. That's all. > > > So you've removed all meaning from intelligence. Rocks are smart at being > rocks, we just have to recognize their goal is be rocks. > I just claim that we can only talk quantitatively about intelligence in relation to a certain agent and a certain set of goals. Isn't it a bit of a stretch to say that I removed all meaning from the concept? > > Maybe we can stop dancing around the question by referring to > human-level-intelligence and then rephrasing the question as, "Do you think > human-like-intelligence requires human-like-complexity?" > Ok. Yes, I think that human-like-intelligence requires human-like-complexity. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected]. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
