On 1/24/2013 9:41 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
In fact it is just the opposite: the position of Luther, like the one of Ocham or Duns
Scoto, which were strongly anti-reason, created the modern science and were precursors
of the most radical forms of Positivism.
They were anti-rationlism, the idea that knowledge of the world could be arrived at by arm
chair cogitation. A 'precursor' to radical positivism would be moderate postivism whose
precursor would simply be empiricism.
Why? It is simple to understand: The three of them were against the use of reason in
MORAL matters, in the knowledge of what is Good and what is Evil and in the knowledge of
God, and in the meaning of life. They were against the use of Greek philosophy to
interpret and complement the knowledge of the biblical revelation (the naturalist
knowledge about these matters was called "natural revelation"). But they were not agains
the use of science in any non religious matters. So they stablished the modern radical
separation between faith and science, between "is" and "ough" . (which I strongly think
is at the root of the contemporary social diseases )
Islam took a more radical path, While the protestants proclaimed the independence of God
from any natural limitation of moral reasoning stablished by greek philosophy, but
admitted natural causations, so science in the modern sense was not only possible but
promoted, the main schools of Islam proclaimed no natural causation. For Islam, life
was a continuous miracle,
Exactly as argued by Aquinas who formulated the Church doctrine that God is the ground of
all being and continuously sustains the world.
and what appeared to be laws were nothing but the customs of Allá that would change at
any moment. So there was no motive to study what may change at any moment.
Dr.Pervez Hoodbhoy, a Pakistani physicist and professor at Quaid-e-Azam
Islamabad, said, according to The New York Times (10/30/2001), that “it was not
Islamic to say that combining hydrogen and oxygen makes water. ‘You were
supposed to say that when you bring hydrogen and oxygen together then by the
Allah water was created.’”
"The earth is flat. Whoever claims it is round is an
atheist deserving of punishment.
---Sheik Abdel-Aziz ibn Baaz, the supreme religious authority of
Saudi Arabia, 1993, quoted by Yousef M. Ibrahim,
The New York Times, 12 February 1993
Yes, that's 1993 CE, not BCE.
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