On 1/24/2013 9:41 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
In fact it is just the opposite: the position of Luther, like the one of Ocham or Duns Scoto, which were strongly anti-reason, created the modern science and were precursors of the most radical forms of Positivism.


They were anti-rationlism, the idea that knowledge of the world could be arrived at by arm chair cogitation. A 'precursor' to radical positivism would be moderate postivism whose precursor would simply be empiricism.


Why? It is simple to understand: The three of them were against the use of reason in MORAL matters, in the knowledge of what is Good and what is Evil and in the knowledge of God, and in the meaning of life. They were against the use of Greek philosophy to interpret and complement the knowledge of the biblical revelation (the naturalist knowledge about these matters was called "natural revelation"). But they were not agains the use of science in any non religious matters. So they stablished the modern radical separation between faith and science, between "is" and "ough" . (which I strongly think is at the root of the contemporary social diseases )

Islam took a more radical path, While the protestants proclaimed the independence of God from any natural limitation of moral reasoning stablished by greek philosophy, but admitted natural causations, so science in the modern sense was not only possible but promoted, the main schools of Islam proclaimed no natural causation. For Islam, life was a continuous miracle,

Exactly as argued by Aquinas who formulated the Church doctrine that God is the ground of all being and continuously sustains the world.

and what appeared to be laws were nothing but the customs of Allá that would change at any moment. So there was no motive to study what may change at any moment.

Dr.Pervez Hoodbhoy, a Pakistani physicist and professor at Quaid-e-Azam 
University in
Islamabad, said, according to The New York Times (10/30/2001), that “it was not
Islamic to say that combining hydrogen and oxygen makes water. ‘You were
supposed to say that when you bring hydrogen and oxygen together then by the 
will of
Allah water was created.’”


Brent
"The earth is flat. Whoever claims it is round is an
atheist deserving of punishment.
  ---Sheik Abdel-Aziz ibn Baaz, the supreme religious authority of
     Saudi Arabia, 1993, quoted by Yousef M. Ibrahim,
      The New York Times, 12 February 1993
      Yes, that's 1993 CE, not BCE.

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