Even better as a improvement over Dr. Turing's Test, would be "I want you to live." If this isn't faked by a clever developer, then that qualifies as a separate, and better, living thing, then most of us humans.
-----Original Message----- From: spudboy100 <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Aug 31, 2013 1:12 pm Subject: Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test? Lets jump ahead of the logic and technology, and presume a successful digital imitation of the human brain in several decades. More than the Turing Test, assuming that no programmer or developer inserts a complex program, made to fool human observers, would not a computer that says " I want to live" a more important AI function than just pretending to fool humans as the Turing Test asserts. It speaks to the will and thus 'soul.' Yeah, at the end of the day I am a dualist, which in this list is comparable to a flat-earther. But the I want to live phrase speaks to me, rather then somebody chatting with a program, about the weather in Blackford Lancashire, and fooling the human. Mitch -----Original Message----- From: John Clark <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Sat, Aug 31, 2013 11:37 am Subject: Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test? On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Chris de Morsella <[email protected]> wrote: > do you think I am trying to pretend that I am deterministic within my own > self? I think you believe you are not deterministic and also not not deterministic, which is equivalent to saying I think you believe in gibberish. > all my decisions and free will could be the result of a grand illusion Free Will is not an illusion. An illusion is a well defined perfectly respectable subjective phenomenon, but "free will" is not like that at all, "free will" is just a noise that some bipeds like to make with their mouth. Cows make a different noise, cows say "Moo". > Why has evolution invested so much energy in erecting such a perfect > rendition of this facsimile of free will that is the common sense experience > that we all experience within ourselves? I cannot answer that question because I don't know what the ASCII sequence "free will" means. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
