On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 8:36 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>> the Christian God who is the most unpleasant character in all of >> fiction. >> > > > It really depends on which Christians, which can be very different from > one culture to another. > I know some people who call themselves Christian but who are nevertheless very nice people, but that can only happen because they don't take their religion as seriously as some, most Muslims for example. Instead they go through the Bible and embrace the stuff they regard as moral, like being kind to your fellow human beings, and ignoring the stuff they regard as immoral, like God engaging in genocide in the Old Testament and Jesus approving of eternal damnation in the New Testament. The Bible is such a big chaotic mess of contradictory moral advice that no matter what your personal views of ethics are you can be certain to find a passage in that book that you like; and that tells me that morality has nothing to do with religion in general or the Bible in particular. > > I use God for any transcendental reality, > What's the difference between reality and transcendental reality? There must be a difference, otherwise if you told be "I believe in God" I would have received no new information about you that I didn't already have because I already knew that anyone smart enough to walk and chew gum at the same time believes in reality. > > which implies some experience, and some faith > Yes I understand all that, I know that faith is required to believe in God, but what I don't understand is why that is supposed to be a virtue. >> For some reason that I don't fully understand you just want to make the >> following sound with your mouth "I believe in God" and it doesn't matter >> what the sound means. >> > > > You can replace the term "God" by the term "Reality" or "Truth > That is true, you can replace the term "God" by the term "Reality" or "Truth,, but you don't. And the reason you don't is not profound and has absolutely nothing to do with mathematics or philosophy; you don't because for some mysterious reason you've fallen in love with the sound your mouth makes when it pronounces the word "G-O-D". There is no other reason. > The problem is that most people take a reality fro granted, > Well I take the reality of reality for granted, but you almost make that sound like a bad thing. > > but in the comp theory that is probably a sort of illusion. > A illusion is a perfectly real subjective phenomenon, and the above beautifully illustrates what I mean when I say that I have no idea what in hell your homemade word "comp" means even though you've been talking about it for years. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.