Here is my tuppence about the *hoax-game* of the *fantasy-play*'teleportation': It is what I said, never substantiated and placed into circumstances never substantiated or verified even within our imaginary physical(?) explanations. Wana play? be my guest. In a 'transportation' (cf: reincarnation-like?) one is supposed to receive new identity as fitting for the new circumstances, with memory arased of the old one. YOU2 is NOT YOU1. (Not even YOU1*). JM
On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 3:02 PM, Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> wrote: > I do not believe in #1 due to the no cloning theorem. > If comp produces QM it must also produce the no cloning theorem. > Richard > > > On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 2:42 PM, Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >> >> >> On Thu, Dec 19, 2013 at 11:29 AM, John Clark <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> On Wed, Dec 18, 2013 at 2:05 PM, Jason Resch <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>> > Bruno: The question is: is it enough correct so that you would please >>>> us in answering step 4. If not: what is incorrect. >>>> John Clark: (No answer, deleted the question) >>>> >>> >>> I have not read step 4, however if it is built on the foundation of the >>> first 3 steps >>> >> >> >> What is the error in step 3? >> >> >> >>> (and I can't think why it would be called "step 4" if it were not) then >>> I can conclude that one thing wrong with step 4 (I don't claim it is the >>> only thing) is the previous 3 steps. >>> >> >> I think if you read the whole set of steps (or even just the next few >> steps) you would see where things are going and wouldn't have so much >> trouble understanding the point of the third step. >> >> I will summarize them for you here: >> >> 1: Teleportation is survivable >> 2: Teleportation with a time delay is survivable, and the time delay is >> imperceptible to the person teleported >> 3. Duplication (teleportation to two locations: one intended and one >> unintended) is survivable, and following duplication there is a 50% chance >> of finding oneself at the intended destination >> 4. Duplication with delay changes nothing. If duplicate to the intended >> destination, and then a year later duplicated to the unintended >> destination, subjectively there is still a 50% chance of finding oneself at >> the intended destination >> 5. Teleportation without destroying the original is equivalent to the >> duplication with delay. If someone creates a copy of you somewhere, there >> is a 50% chance you will find yourself in that alternate location. >> 6. If a virtual copy of you is instantiated in a computer somewhere, then >> as in step 5, there is a 50% chance you will find yourself trapped in that >> computer simulation. >> 7. A computer with enough time and memory, that iteratively executes all >> programs in parallel will "kidnap" everyone, since all observers everywhere >> (in all universes) will eventually find themselves to be in this computer >> 8. There is no need to build the computer in step 7, since the executions >> of all programs exist within the relations between large numbers. Hence, >> arithmetical realism is a candidate TOE. >> >> This is the "grand conclusion" you have been missing for all these years. >> I don't think this was obvious to Og the caveman. >> >> Jason >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
