On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:17 PM, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
> Liz, > > We'll let Jason judge whether I answered him or not. > > You did answer, but your answer is that you did not know (you said it what was whatever relativity predicts, but relativity also has no answer without a defined reference frame). However according to P-time, Sam must be doing *something *at the exact moment Pam arrives at her destination. Is that something celebrating his fifth birthday or not? If there is some certain thing he is doing at that instant (which I think follows from P-time), your P-time theory ought to have some mathematical way of providing an answer that question, should it not? If it does not, then what is the advantage of P-time over special relativity? Jason > > > On Thursday, January 2, 2014 4:14:02 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: > >> On 3 January 2014 10:00, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Liz, >>> >>> I answered Jason directly. See that post. >>> >> >> By not answering, yes. >> >>> >>> There is no preferred CLOCK time frame. There is a shared common present >>> moment they both share which is 'preferred' in that sense. Again you are >>> confusing clock time and Present moment time. See my response to Jason for >>> one more approach that might make it understandable. >>> >> >> It is preferred in the sense that it defines an inertial frame. From what >> you have said so far that frame is the Earth's rest frame (or let's say the >> rest frame of the CMB, which seems more physically plausible - they are >> fairly close from the point of view of relativistic travel). Saying that a >> frame of reference is special - e.g. that it computes reality - should have >> observable consequences, probably for dispersion in high energy cosmic >> rays. Have you worked out what those are, so they can be tested >> experimentally? So far your theory appears to be just words, and from the >> response you've had so far, not very convincing ones. It needs a >> mathematical underpinning, as I requested way back but haven't yet seen, >> before it can really be called a theory. >> >> Or if you prefer to stick with just words, please try to show some >> reason, any reason, for anyone to think that P-time actually exists and >> does some useful work in explaining reality. Just saying it's "obvious", >> and "no one understands you" isn't enough (well, not unless you're a >> teenager, at least.) >> >> See everyone's responses to your posts, but especially Jason's, for any >> number of approaches that might make this understandable. >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
