On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 5:30 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> >> Then you die with the simple teleportation. > > > >> >> >> Then who will die in the simple teleportation >> ? >> > > > > You, when you are in Helsinki. > For the sake of clarity and consistency when dealing with this topic John Clark humbly requests that Bruno Marchal make the following simple changes in future correspondence with John Clark: 1) Substitute "John Clark" for the personal pronoun "you". 2) Keep in mind that after the duplication there is no such thing as **THE** 1p that John Clark will experience in the future. Thank you for your cooperation. > > > it is not abaout the lmocation of your bodies, but about the first person > experience > There are two first person experiences, which one is Bruno talking about? > > "you" is unambiguous before the duplication. Yes, but Bruno is talking about expectations and that implies the future, stuff that happens after the duplication, and then its Ambiguity City. Not that expectations, correct ones or incorrect ones, have anything to do with the continuity of consciousness or the unique feeling of self. > > > that you will live (again, with that non ambiguous definition of identity > that we have agree on). > The definition John Clark agreed on is "you" is somebody who remembers being a man in Helsinki. On Monday Wednesday and Friday Bruno agrees with this definition, on Tuesday Thursday and Saturday Bruno does not, and on Sunday Bruno is a bit confused. > > You avoid to answer the question/ What do you expect to live after pushing > the button. Avoid the question my ass! Just yesterday John Clark said clear as a bell "that depends on who "you" is. John Clark would know that in the future the Moscow Man would see Moscow and the Washington Man would see Washington. [...] And I [John Clark] also knew which one would be which, I knew the Moscow Man would get his photons from Moscow and the Washington Man would get his photons from Washington. [...] what Bruno Marchal would expect John Clark neither knows nor cares because expectations, correct ones or incorrect ones, have nothing to do with the continuity of consciousness or the unique feeling of self. " > > > you and Peck are the only one having a problem here. Then Peck and Clark are the only ones here who can think rationally on this subject. > > You are just playing with word. > And you are using words like a naive child not like a logician with a disciplined mind. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
