On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 2:09 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> Well of course it doesn't determine *THE* 1p because in a world with >> people duplicating machines there is no such thing as *THE* 1p. > > > > > Then you die with the simple teleportation. > Then who will die in t he simple teleportation ? If Bruno is unable to give a coherent meaning to the personal pronoun "you" , and by now it's pretty clear that Bruno can not, then Bruno should stop using that word when trying to tackle issues like personal identity or the unique feeling of self. >> > And who is "you"? > > The 1p that you will live in > > . And who is "you" again? The person that has the 1p. And who has this 1p? > You. And round and round we go. > > Lol Yes it is sorta funny, and the funniest part is that Bruno is laughing at the very absurdity of Bruno Marchal 's theory. > > Of course there is a "the", even two, but only one is avaiblae for both > copies, and that is there is indetermination on the outcome of the > experience. > Before the duplication there would be no uncertainty I (this is before duplication so that pronoun can be used), would know that in the future the Moscow Man would see Moscow and the Washington Man would see Washington. What more is needed, what exactly is it that is supposed to be uncertain? Please please don't say it's uncertain what **you** will see from **the** 1p. > > Th > e question was "what do you expect to live when you will push on the > button" > That depends on who "you" is. John Clark has already explained what John Clark would expect; what Bruno Marchal would expect John Clark neither knows nor cares because expectations, correct ones or incorrect ones, have nothing to do with the continuity of consciousness or the unique feeling of self. > > L > et us count the subjective experiences available: two. > Correct, and if Bruno Marchal has been duplicated then Bruno Marchal can experience both of them. > > > But you have agreed that they are incompatible, > As explained over and over and over again, the Washington Man and the Moscow Man are incompatible with each other but they are *NOT* incompatible with both being Bruno Marchal . Are they i ncompatible with both being **you**? That is not a question, that is just a sequence of ASCII characters with a question mark at the end. > > > you know that for any first person experience pov, it will be like only > one of the outcome has been made available. > Yes but given the fact that *TWO* first person experiences have been made available and they are both Bruno Marchal 's that is not a problem. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
