> On 4 Nov 2018, at 12:23, Philip Thrift <cloudver...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Saturday, November 3, 2018 at 6:02:50 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > On Sat, Nov 3, 2018 at 5:49 PM Philip Thrift <cloud...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > >Information processing can ultimately lead to just a type of intelligence: > >pseudo-intelligence: > Artificial intelligence isn't synthetic intelligence: It's > pseudo-intelligence. > > If you're outsmarted by a pseudo-intelligence how are you better off than if > you were outsmarted by a genuine-intelligence? > > > Consciousness requires experience processing in addition to information > > processing. > > A experience is information so experience processing is information > processing, and I don't see how it makes any difference if the brain doing > the processing is dry and hard or wet and squishy. And If consciousness is > required for intelligence and computers don't have it why do we find new > tasks every day that computers can do in a smarter way than we can? > > John K Clark > > > > > > If experience (Galen Strawson, The Subject of Experience) is the result of > information (only) processing, then the argument for arithmetical (Platonic) > reality holds.
Experience is manifested by information processing. But experience per se is not information processing. Experience per se is the consciousness of all “virgin” universal machine “before differentiation”. It is what is true, immediately knowable, non doubtable, etc. I accumulate evidence that the more we have information processing ability, the less we are conscious. A brain filter consciousness, only. I agree this is counter-intuitive. I do not use this in my papers, note. But that simplifies the theology a lot, and physics too. We cannot identify first person notion with third person notion. A subtlety is that physics is, eventually, shown to be first person plural, and not third person as usually believed today. Bruno > > - pt > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com>. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com > <mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list > <https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
