On Monday 09 July 2007 02:05:43 Karine Delvare wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Jul 2007 02:11:09 -0700
> David Southwell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > It seems to me there are two issues which seem to be confused and
> > rolled into one seeminly illogical construct.
> >
> > 1. Whether some contributors to this list should take it upon
> > themselves to try and stop other contributors, who either wish to
> > discuss gimpshop issues from doing so.
> >
> > 2. Whether gimpshop should be declared as being officially supported
> > by the list owners.
> >
> > On the first point my reaction to those adopting an authoritarian
> > position is "come on guys loosen up". It gives the impression that a
> > few people with an axe to grind  want to freeze out gimpshop rather
> > than encouraging any extensions of gimp, of which gimpshop is one, to
> > mature.
> This list is hosted by the GIMP project. If you want to discuss another
> project that openly rejected GIMP and refused to listen to
> the team's advices on how to properly implement Gimpshop to benefit
> from bugfixes and new releases, you can do so by finding another list
> or creating one yourself.
> You can't ask the GIMP project to not moderate the mailing list they
> host. Noone forces you to use this list if you dislike the way it is
> moderated.
Who has asked anyone NOT to moderate??

Who benefits from such negativity?
Noone -- it has certainly given me an impression of mean spritedness by a few 
and the practical experience of private generosity many. In fact I have 
received more private helpful emails from list users than there have been 
postings to the list. This seems to indicate that the authoritarian approach 
of a few is not really supported by the many.

Who benefits from just sitting back if you do not want to contribute?

People who are not really happy about gimpshop do waste time trying to wag 
authoritarian fingers at those that do. A releaxed attitude makes everyone, 
except those who need to control others, happier. The community seems more 
welcoming and, who knows, either the attitude of gimpshop people may change 
or someone else might be encouraged to develop something like gimpshop in a 
more compatible way. Gimp desperately needs something like gimpshop.

IMHO it is time to let go of anger and act in a mature and constructive way.

David Southwell

Does the list benefit from people wagging their finger and saying
Who loses by j

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