I'm not sure if this is "per-user-self-config-frontend" is really needed
for declude.

Our users are very happy when we try to find a good and reliable
configuration and keep them up to date. (spammers don't sleep)
None of our clients know what are DNS-Tests, Open-Relay-Databases and so
on. Wich normal internet user should be able to configure his own weight
system or actions for different tests? 

If you download all files from the declude homepage and read the manual
page it works fine in 20 minutes. However an admin can spend hours of
work to test different settings, analyzing logfiles and adapt the config
file for his special needs. Hours that at least our customers don't
have. They want all the same: recieve a minimum of spam.

We was able to increase the mail_send/spam_detected ratio from the
default config-file to over 50% and I'm absolutely sure that no normal
user can configure his settings better.
If yes I will ask him to work for us.

I mean that centralized systems like declude should be administered from
admins that know what a powerfull tool they have in hands. 

Markus



-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:IMail_Forum-owner@;list.ipswitch.com] On Behalf Of Jerry Murdock
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 6:04 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Something better than Declude


----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Kemp" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 11:22 AM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Something better than Declude


> Yes, we're talking about the pro version.  It does have per-user 
> configuration.  The Techs just haven't gotten it to work right for us 
> yet, and noted that it has to be centrally administrated by the techs 
> for each individual.  They had assumed that each user could manipulate

> their own, but being a text file, I wouldn't expect each individual to

> have the capacity to do so with a text editor or notepad, plus having 
> to share the folder out to everybody, when most aren't logging in to 
> the NT domain here.

Writing a web based front end for per-user settings would be the thing
to do, and should be a simple task for anyone with any cgi/asp
experience at all.

Sure, it would be nice if Declude had something canned for this  - but
it's not even remotely implied in any of the stuff I've seen for
Declude. Most that need the functionality would probably end up rolling
their own anyway.

Purchases should not be based on assumptions, especially ones that even
the most trivial research would reveal as wrong.

Jerry


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