*Torenia crustacea* (Syn: Lindernia crustacea) is a species different from *Torenia lindernioides*, and has a wider distribution. It is found in the Himalayas, East India, and probably also in Western Ghats. The key involving these species is listed in Saldanha's paper that I sent. Tabish ------------------------------------------- <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net The waterhole of flower lovers
On Sat, Oct 8, 2022 at 11:40 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > However, I am not satisfied with the id as *Torenia godefroyi* or *Torenia > lindernioides *(with restricted range in Western Ghats and Cambodia). > What about other observations from other areas at Lindernia crustacea > <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/12/lindernia-crustacea/> like > SK 3258 24 December 2021 > <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/xoQAkxPsgTg> > Lindernia sp. (1) from Hooghly 15/8/12 SK-1 > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/Huo2W3tvDdU> > Lindernia sp. (2) from Hooghly 15/8/12 SK-2 > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/pAcb_GQuLTE> > Lindernia crustacea (L.) F.Muel collected from Kamrup district (Metro), > Assam <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/KU3HUbO0DnM> > Scrophulariaceae Fortnight: Lindernia crustacea from Kaithal- NS 29 > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/lSYABMJR-XI> > Scrophulariaceae Fortnight: a guest on Lindernia crustacea (L.) F.Muell. : > sk03 <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/aobL5G85kmA> > PM1 22-09-2017 Id confirmation from chandigarh. Is it Lindernia crustacea? > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/z5RCCxai7Uc> > Torenia thouarsii (Cham. & Schltdl.) Kuntze (accepted name) ?? > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/zMNeXJM7Bdc> > for id. request. BRS 522 > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/eWWg23fxCqM> > Torenia crustacea (L.) Cham. & Schltdl. > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/PAKGAtwmPGI> > Validation of Lindernia > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/umPk1Q5X8-8> > Herb for ID from Jim-Corbett Uttarakhand-GS10032022-2 > <https://groups.google.com/g/indiantreepix/c/anOKvYwqBec> > > In view of the above observations, I feel, we follow the broader > circumspection with all these observations as Lindernia crustacea > <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/12/lindernia-crustacea/> (as we are > following now). > In view Dinesh ji's plant and other similar observations from Western > Ghats may also be retained as Lindernia crustacea > <https://efloraofindia.com/2011/03/12/lindernia-crustacea/> only. > > > On Fri, 7 Oct 2022 at 22:00, Tabish <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Just to point out that POWO treats* Torenia godefroyi* and* Torenia >> lindernioides *as distinct species, with *Torenia godefroyi* confied to >> Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Vietnam, and *Torenia lindernioides *confined >> to the Western Ghats. >> Tabish >> ------------------------------------------- >> <http://www.flowersofindia.net>www.flowersofindia.net >> The waterhole of flower lovers >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 7, 2022 at 11:35 AM J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> I think Sunoj ji may finally resolve this issue being an author of >>> 'Re-establishment >>> of the overlooked species Torenia godefroyi (Linderniaceae), and notes on >>> the identity of T. lindernioides >>> <https://www.researchgate.net/publication/312558634_Re-establishment_of_the_overlooked_species_Torenia_godefroyi_Linderniaceae_and_notes_on_the_identity_of_T_lindernioides>' >>> (I am unable to get a hand on it from the net) >>> Thanks a lot, Tabish ji, for the inputs. >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>> From: Tabish <[email protected]> >>> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2022 at 09:29 >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:434054] Re: Scrophulariaceae fortnight :: >>> Lindernia crustacea at Andheri :: DV06 >>> To: eFloraofIndia <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> This plant, with distinctly winged calyx, should be *Torenia >>> lindernioides* which is endemic to Western Ghats. Please have a look at >>> the attached paper. It is closely similar to *Torenia crustacea* (Syn: >>> *Lindernia >>> crustacea*) which has unwinged calyx. >>> According to the paper: >>> "Torenia lindernioides has a distinctly winged calyx which completely >>> encloses the mature capsule. The capsule is elongated, lelliptic in outline >>> and narrowed at the top. Lindernia crustacea, however, has sepals that are, >>> at most, slightly thickened in the middle and never invest the capsule >>> completely." >>> Tabish >>> >>> On Friday, August 16, 2013 at 5:12:18 AM UTC+5:30 Dinesh Valke wrote: >>> >>>> Scrophulariaceae fortnight >>>> dog flower family >>>> *Lindernia crustacea* (L.) F. Muell. ... also placed in: Linderniaceae >>>> Plantaginaceae Veronicaceae >>>> at MIDC Andheri on 24 AUG 07 >>>> >>>> [image: Urikusa (in Japanese)] >>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F1224907860%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc7DxIHJEZQx1njUX_pZEE1_tb5uA> >>>> >>>> [image: Fua Lanumoana (in Samoan)] >>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F1224061657%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdyHN9liuka8KQKrl3l8qM__GKBrg> >>>> Regards. >>>> Dinesh >>>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/373ac98b-df9a-4a8f-8799-d45ab3d6eb4bn%40googlegroups.com >>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/373ac98b-df9a-4a8f-8799-d45ab3d6eb4bn%40googlegroups.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>> . >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >> > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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