For instance, is Julian Assange our Martin Luther? From the Diet of Worms to our can of worms? From 95 Theses to ? Think about it. :-)
On Dec 6, 6:05 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Why think of time in any sense at all , but doesn't it seem reasonable to > believe that there have always been universes and life and death will > continue in infinity whereas it is accepted that this universe began and > will end. My point is that like God Creation with a chain of universes will > continue in eternity. > > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > RP I don't think that time exists in a substantial sense, except to > > explain sequences of events or provide reference states/events. From what we > > do know of it, if I am correct, time is relative, and I am beginning to > > think of it similarly to gravity. In my view the present can and the past > > has been affected by the future. Through this I accept causality but deny > > determinism. > > > Now why cloak explanation in very human terms like happiness and > > loneliness? What is pleasurable and painful to this trans-being? This > > implies to me a changeful One, not eternal and omnipotent in the linear > > senses usually attributed. But something alive, with living parts which have > > an impact on the whole. Sorry if I am putting words in your mouth, care to > > clarify more? > > > On 12/5/2010 11:14 PM, RP Singh wrote: > > > Ash my meaning is that God finds his happiness in his creation and > > therefore , though universes have a beginning and an end , Creation has no > > beginning and no end as there would always be universes before and after the > > present universes. In other words there would be no beginning or end of > > time. > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:25 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> This leads us to the question of the existence of our universe at all, if > >> a being existed: omnipresent, omniscient, eternal; what point would there > >> be > >> to creating our universe? > > >> On 12/5/2010 12:12 PM, RP Singh wrote: > > >> Francis , if creation were to have a beginning and an end the eternity of > >> God would have no meaning as it is in creation that God's presence is felt. > >> God would have become a very lonely fellow. > > >> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:08 PM, frantheman <[email protected] > >> > wrote: > > >>> RP, I've asked the question before and I'll ask it again: > > >>> Who sez? > > >>> Any of us can make pronouncements ... about anything. The trick is to > >>> back them up. > > >>> Francis > > >>> On 5 Dez., 16:09, RP <[email protected]> wrote: > >>> > There is no beginning or end of God. He is eternal. There is no > >>> > beginning or end of creation. Before this universe there were other > >>> > universes and after this universe there will be other universes. In > >>> > fact there is no point in time when there was a first universe or > >>> > there will be a last universe. God and Creation are both eternal , it > >>> > is us beings that are finite.- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
