Even better than getting beaten is getting laid, but that wouldn't be an appropriate proposition now would it. *chuckles

On 12/6/2010 1:41 PM, iam deheretic wrote:
gabby did I leave out the part we will forget to tell the police offers you have my permission,, ;o) after we want an unbiased judgement.
Allan

On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:39 PM, iam deheretic <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Gabby  I do not have to backup my existence without a tombstone,
    that is easy we will meet in some city center  make sure there are
    several police persons there the more the merrier ..  then you
    have my permission th beat the shit out of me,,  now we will let
    those fine officers decide whether I exist or not..  I would offer
    to reverse the roles but I have no doubt of your existence and
    need no proof.
    Allan


    On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:14 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        Na, that door won't open! Just like the demand to back up your
        existence with your tombstone! To be a human being, Francis,
        the trick
        is to keep breathing! Just like time only exists in its
        substantial
        sense! Thanks for reminding us, RP.

        On 6 Dez., 15:34, rigsy03 <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        > For instance, is Julian Assange our Martin Luther? From the
        Diet of
        > Worms to our can of worms? From 95 Theses to ? Think about
        it. :-)
        >
        > On Dec 6, 6:05 am, RP Singh <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        >
        > > Why think of time in any sense at all , but doesn't it
        seem reasonable to
        > > believe that there have always been universes and  life
        and death will
        > > continue in infinity whereas it is accepted that this
        universe began and
        > > will end. My point is that like God Creation with a chain
        of universes will
        > > continue in eternity.
        >
        > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Ash <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        > > >  RP I don't think that time exists in a substantial
        sense, except to
        > > > explain sequences of events or provide reference
        states/events. From what we
        > > > do know of it, if I am correct, time is relative, and I
        am beginning to
        > > > think of it similarly to gravity. In my view the present
        can and the past
        > > > has been affected by the future. Through this I accept
        causality but deny
        > > > determinism.
        >
        > > > Now why cloak explanation in very human terms like
        happiness and
        > > > loneliness? What is pleasurable and painful to this
        trans-being? This
        > > > implies to me a changeful One, not eternal and
        omnipotent in the linear
        > > > senses usually attributed. But something alive, with
        living parts which have
        > > > an impact on the whole. Sorry if I am putting words in
        your mouth, care to
        > > > clarify more?
        >
        > > > On 12/5/2010 11:14 PM, RP Singh wrote:
        >
        > > > Ash my meaning is that God finds his happiness in his
        creation and
        > > > therefore , though universes have a beginning and an end
        , Creation has no
        > > > beginning and no end as there would always be universes
        before and after the
        > > > present universes. In other words there would be no
        beginning or end of
        > > > time.
        >
        > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:25 AM, Ash <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        >
        > > >>  This leads us to the question of the existence of our
        universe at all, if
        > > >> a being existed: omnipresent, omniscient, eternal; what
        point would there be
        > > >> to creating our universe?
        >
        > > >> On 12/5/2010 12:12 PM, RP Singh wrote:
        >
        > > >> Francis , if creation were to have a beginning and an
        end the eternity of
        > > >> God would have no meaning as it is in creation that
        God's presence is felt.
        > > >> God would have become a very lonely fellow.
        >
        > > >>  On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:08 PM, frantheman
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
        > > >> > wrote:
        >
        > > >>> RP, I've asked the question before and I'll ask it again:
        >
        > > >>> Who sez?
        >
        > > >>> Any of us can make pronouncements ... about anything.
        The trick is to
        > > >>> back them up.
        >
        > > >>> Francis
        >
        > > >>> On 5 Dez., 16:09, RP <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
        > > >>> > There is no beginning or end of God. He is eternal.
        There is no
        > > >>> > beginning or end of creation. Before this universe
        there were other
        > > >>> > universes and after this universe there will be
        other universes. In
        > > >>> > fact there is no point in time when there was a
        first universe or
        > > >>> > there will be a last universe. God and Creation are
        both eternal , it
        > > >>> > is us beings that are finite.- Hide quoted text -
        >
        > > - Show quoted text -




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