Gabby I do not have to backup my existence without a tombstone, that is easy we will meet in some city center make sure there are several police persons there the more the merrier .. then you have my permission th beat the shit out of me,, now we will let those fine officers decide whether I exist or not.. I would offer to reverse the roles but I have no doubt of your existence and need no proof. Allan
On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:14 PM, gabbydott <[email protected]> wrote: > Na, that door won't open! Just like the demand to back up your > existence with your tombstone! To be a human being, Francis, the trick > is to keep breathing! Just like time only exists in its substantial > sense! Thanks for reminding us, RP. > > On 6 Dez., 15:34, rigsy03 <[email protected]> wrote: > > For instance, is Julian Assange our Martin Luther? From the Diet of > > Worms to our can of worms? From 95 Theses to ? Think about it. :-) > > > > On Dec 6, 6:05 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Why think of time in any sense at all , but doesn't it seem reasonable > to > > > believe that there have always been universes and life and death will > > > continue in infinity whereas it is accepted that this universe began > and > > > will end. My point is that like God Creation with a chain of universes > will > > > continue in eternity. > > > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > RP I don't think that time exists in a substantial sense, except to > > > > explain sequences of events or provide reference states/events. From > what we > > > > do know of it, if I am correct, time is relative, and I am beginning > to > > > > think of it similarly to gravity. In my view the present can and the > past > > > > has been affected by the future. Through this I accept causality but > deny > > > > determinism. > > > > > > Now why cloak explanation in very human terms like happiness and > > > > loneliness? What is pleasurable and painful to this trans-being? This > > > > implies to me a changeful One, not eternal and omnipotent in the > linear > > > > senses usually attributed. But something alive, with living parts > which have > > > > an impact on the whole. Sorry if I am putting words in your mouth, > care to > > > > clarify more? > > > > > > On 12/5/2010 11:14 PM, RP Singh wrote: > > > > > > Ash my meaning is that God finds his happiness in his creation and > > > > therefore , though universes have a beginning and an end , Creation > has no > > > > beginning and no end as there would always be universes before and > after the > > > > present universes. In other words there would be no beginning or end > of > > > > time. > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:25 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > >> This leads us to the question of the existence of our universe at > all, if > > > >> a being existed: omnipresent, omniscient, eternal; what point would > there be > > > >> to creating our universe? > > > > > >> On 12/5/2010 12:12 PM, RP Singh wrote: > > > > > >> Francis , if creation were to have a beginning and an end the > eternity of > > > >> God would have no meaning as it is in creation that God's presence > is felt. > > > >> God would have become a very lonely fellow. > > > > > >> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:08 PM, frantheman < > [email protected] > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > >>> RP, I've asked the question before and I'll ask it again: > > > > > >>> Who sez? > > > > > >>> Any of us can make pronouncements ... about anything. The trick is > to > > > >>> back them up. > > > > > >>> Francis > > > > > >>> On 5 Dez., 16:09, RP <[email protected]> wrote: > > > >>> > There is no beginning or end of God. He is eternal. There is no > > > >>> > beginning or end of creation. Before this universe there were > other > > > >>> > universes and after this universe there will be other universes. > In > > > >>> > fact there is no point in time when there was a first universe or > > > >>> > there will be a last universe. God and Creation are both eternal > , it > > > >>> > is us beings that are finite.- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text - > -- ( ) I_D Allan If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
