Sorry RP, when one's logic does not appear logical to a majority and is not substantiated by sources, it is illogical for one to continue upon those lines. Perhaps what is logical to you could provide for a paridigm shift in consciousness but not without firm ground, substantiated proofs or supporting thesises.
On Dec 6, 10:38 am, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > I am basing my views on logic and if you don't accept my logic I can do > nothing about it. What is logical to me may sound illogical to you. Maybe > you want some illustrations from scriptures or science books but I am sorry > I cannot provide one. > > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:24 PM, iam deheretic <[email protected]> wrote: > > What I am hearing RP is just talk, you were asked what you are basing these > > statements from? In simpler terms, sources, sources, and more sources. > > Allan > > > On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 1:05 PM, RP Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > > >> Why think of time in any sense at all , but doesn't it seem reasonable to > >> believe that there have always been universes and life and death will > >> continue in infinity whereas it is accepted that this universe began and > >> will end. My point is that like God Creation with a chain of universes will > >> continue in eternity. > > >> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>> RP I don't think that time exists in a substantial sense, except to > >>> explain sequences of events or provide reference states/events. From what > >>> we > >>> do know of it, if I am correct, time is relative, and I am beginning to > >>> think of it similarly to gravity. In my view the present can and the past > >>> has been affected by the future. Through this I accept causality but deny > >>> determinism. > > >>> Now why cloak explanation in very human terms like happiness and > >>> loneliness? What is pleasurable and painful to this trans-being? This > >>> implies to me a changeful One, not eternal and omnipotent in the linear > >>> senses usually attributed. But something alive, with living parts which > >>> have > >>> an impact on the whole. Sorry if I am putting words in your mouth, care to > >>> clarify more? > > >>> On 12/5/2010 11:14 PM, RP Singh wrote: > > >>> Ash my meaning is that God finds his happiness in his creation and > >>> therefore , though universes have a beginning and an end , Creation has no > >>> beginning and no end as there would always be universes before and after > >>> the > >>> present universes. In other words there would be no beginning or end of > >>> time. > > >>> On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 5:25 AM, Ash <[email protected]> wrote: > > >>>> This leads us to the question of the existence of our universe at all, > >>>> if a being existed: omnipresent, omniscient, eternal; what point would > >>>> there > >>>> be to creating our universe? > > >>>> On 12/5/2010 12:12 PM, RP Singh wrote: > > >>>> Francis , if creation were to have a beginning and an end the eternity > >>>> of God would have no meaning as it is in creation that God's presence is > >>>> felt. God would have become a very lonely fellow. > > >>>> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 10:08 PM, frantheman < > >>>> [email protected]> wrote: > > >>>>> RP, I've asked the question before and I'll ask it again: > > >>>>> Who sez? > > >>>>> Any of us can make pronouncements ... about anything. The trick is to > >>>>> back them up. > > >>>>> Francis > > >>>>> On 5 Dez., 16:09, RP <[email protected]> wrote: > >>>>> > There is no beginning or end of God. He is eternal. There is no > >>>>> > beginning or end of creation. Before this universe there were other > >>>>> > universes and after this universe there will be other universes. In > >>>>> > fact there is no point in time when there was a first universe or > >>>>> > there will be a last universe. God and Creation are both eternal , it > >>>>> > is us beings that are finite. > > > -- > > ( > > ) > > I_D Allan > > > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken > > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
