On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 4:31 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
When a person realizes that he is just a figment of God's imagination
and that Brahman alone IS then he attains to salvation , liberation of
the soul from duality to a state of non-duality , unending and
unbreakable bliss.
On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 3:06 AM, iam deheretic
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> RP you must be awful fearful of death. and you are talking in
circles
> trying to sound like you understand some thing but to me you
sound confused
> and lost and searching for salvation, Sorry RP I fall short on
just what
> this salvation thing is. To simplify it for you RP When you
begin to realize
> you are part of Brahman and because of the simple fact there is
an infinite
> connection,, now all you have to learn is to be a kinder gentler
person
> learning to love others as Brahman loves you, Simple yes, but it
take a life
> time to perfect.
> Allan
>
> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 10:17 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>
>> For those to whom the idea of death is fearful it is death to
them ,
>> but those who recognising the inevitability of death and being
>> unattached to the various bonds of life see that they will
merge into
>> the One God , attain to the supreme bliss that is Brahman.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 2:36 PM, iam deheretic
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>> wrote:
>> > Hmm I have read part of it . some what interesting and if you
have
>> > nothing
>> > else it could be totally fascinating I like work but it
means little
>> > and I
>> > can often times see the purpose, reading what you say work
without
>> > attachment. you make it sound difficult really is it as you
want it to
>> > be
>> > ,, sounds more like an self fulfilling prophecy personally I
like work
>> > simply because I enjoy working
>> >
>> > Yes you often reiterate old teachers , but does that mean you
understand
>> > what they are actually saying?
>> >
>> > RP the purpose and function is to get to know God and that
applies to
>> > every
>> > one, is it going to happen? The entirety of your being both
body and
>> > soul is
>> > totally contained with in God (no matter what name you want
to call
>> > him.)
>> > the other is to do his will for you and for each person it is
>> > different. By
>> > responding to the world around you in reality you are
responding to God
>> > the
>> > creator.These request of God are often times very quiet and
subtle.If
>> > you
>> > don't respond well then you just simple don't.
>> >
>> > You tell me RP to open my eyes and accept the certainty of
death and
>> > salvation. Do you even know what death is and what salvation is?
>> > Allan
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 5:08 AM, RP Singh <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> When a person loses wealth or name he becomes depressed
whereas a
>> >> person who has attained to the calm of self-mastery remains
cool and
>> >> composed as he has ever a spirit of detachment from all worldly
>> >> things. But that doesn't mean that he becomes a zombie as he
acts and
>> >> behaves normally , doing all necessary work and making
efforts without
>> >> the attachment associated with such work. This view has been
put forth
>> >> by many great teachers and I am only reiterating it --- read the
>> >> bhagwadgita and you may find something of what I am saying
clearly
>> >> enunciated there. People go in search of the elusive self as
if it
>> >> were somewhere underneath wraps , whereas the truth is it is
right
>> >> there before you and you fail to see it.
>> >> The Self is that Nothing of which scientist speak from which the
>> >> universe has emanated and to which it will go---and if you
think that
>> >> you will be able to grasp it within your hand , you have lot
to learn.
>> >> You ask me to learn but all that you speak of has been
gathering dust
>> >> in books and folklore , why don't you just open your eyes
and accept
>> >> the certainty of death and salvation.
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ash <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >> > Hope I don't get in the way here RP but I was waiting for
Allan
>> >> > before
>> >> > butting in. At first I found this troubling and not purely
on the
>> >> > basis
>> >> > of
>> >> > Individuality, but that there is a separation between
things such
>> >> > that
>> >> > we
>> >> > are striving for our own nullification in a process of
spiritual
>> >> > division
>> >> > then multiplication, while at the same time we are
speaking of an
>> >> > eternal
>> >> > and infinite wellspring. It may be that this is the
greatest height
>> >> > that
>> >> > any
>> >> > teacher will speak of or has attained and it may indeed be
The truth,
>> >> > however it may also be a misleading truth if we accept it
as the only
>> >> > destination. The definition of self-realization may also be a
>> >> > half-truth,
>> >> > depending on how you define self-mastery. If realization
is a mere
>> >> > perceptual trick in the grand scheme compared to God, it
is just one
>> >> > step of
>> >> > the ladder, of which there may be an infinite supply (and
all of that
>> >> > may
>> >> > fall within another mastery).
>> >> >
>> >> > I would much prefer to walk my path for a very long time,
wherever it
>> >> > may
>> >> > lead, through samsara or hell and put a foot in many
dimensions of
>> >> > existence, merely to explore and discover. Heaven and hell
I'd flip
>> >> > upside
>> >> > down and leave no stone unturned to see where and what we
are and
>> >> > what
>> >> > possibilities may be. Noone can say where that would take
us, or what
>> >> > we
>> >> > could become. Until then we do need pieces of insight, I
suppose even
>> >> > if
>> >> > they come in the form of neti neti, many disciplines and
many arts so
>> >> > long
>> >> > as we don't lose the urge or spirit that led us to make
them- tools
>> >> > handed
>> >> > down for us to build on.
>> >> >
>> >> > I hope this was along a constructive path for thoughts,
could you
>> >> > offer
>> >> > more
>> >> > insight into how far self-mastery can go in your belief?
>> >> >
>> >> > On 1/23/2011 1:16 PM, iam deheretic wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > RP by my experience you have a lot to learn
>> >> > But your mind is closed and you know it all , sadly when
people set
>> >> > the
>> >> > conditions for something they can never exceed them
because they have
>> >> > set
>> >> > the only conditions they have set. sadder still it
becomes a self
>> >> > fulfilling prophecy .
>> >> > Allan
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, Jan 23, 2011 at 10:04 AM, RP Singh
<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> The nearest a person can get to a state of
Self-realization while
>> >> >> still in this body is to attain to the calm of
self-mastery , that
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> , to remain cool and self-composed in all favourable and
adverse
>> >> >> circumstances ----- to live and act with a spirit of
detachment
>> >> >> while
>> >> >> doing all works to the best of one's ability.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 11:05 PM,
[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>> >> >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >> >> > I almost agree with you RP. But of course it is
possible to
>> >> >> > experiance such bliss whilst still alive, not easy, but
possible.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Jan 19, 2:49 pm, RP Singh <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> >> >> >> All are different , some are incompetent , some
competent; some
>> >> >> >> are
>> >> >> >> fools , others are brilliant ; some are esteemed , others
>> >> >> >> despicable;
>> >> >> >> and so on and on. But in reality all are equal as all
are made
>> >> >> >> from
>> >> >> >> the One , Godself , and to that Godself all eventually
go and
>> >> >> >> find
>> >> >> >> eternal peace , the supreme bliss which can be
understood but
>> >> >> >> never
>> >> >> >> experienced while in this body.
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > (
>> >> > )
>> >> > I_D Allan
>> >> >
>> >> > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
>> >> > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > (
>> > )
>> > I_D Allan
>> >
>> > If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
>> > Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
>> >
>> >
>
>
>
> --
> (
> )
> I_D Allan
>
> If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
> Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
>
>
--
(
)
I_D Allan
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
