Pratik wrote:
> 
> Christopher Jahn wrote:
> <snip>
> 
> >>I want them eliminated from the server, thats why.
> >>
> >
> > It's my understanding that they are removed when you delete the
> > message to the Trash Bin.  Emptying the Trash Bin should have no
> > effect on your server - that's a disk issue.
> 
> If this is the case then my problem is solved. But I suspect this is not
> the case. I always thought I had to Empty Trash to have the messages
> deleted from the server.
> 
> 
> >
> > I don't
> >
> >>like the fact that it also compacts although from the sound
> >>of it, I think I might have to live with it (But *please*
> >>give me a pref to turn it off).
> >>
> >>In fact while at this, it might be really nice to say,
> >>'delete this mail with huge attachment from the server but
> >>leave it in my inbox bcos its important'.
> >>
> >
> > Why not remove it from the server when you download it in the
> > first place?  Most sysadmins would prefer you do this.
> 
> The problem is with POP mail. I use multiple computers to check email
> and without leaving them on the server, there's no way for me to do
> this.  The sysadmins are planning to move to IMAP, so my problem should
> go away when they do that.
> 
> >>>Compacting folders does nothing more than it claims, it
> >>>does NOT mark for deletion nor does it eliminate messages,
> >>>they are still there and readable after you compact
> >>>folders.
> >>>
> >>>I think you are confused as to the functionality of both
> >>>the features.
> >>>
> >>
> >>I am actually a little confused by your statement. Let me
> >>rephrase and you can tell me if I am right
> >>
> >>Compacting Folders -> Remove all messages that are marked
> >>deleted in the folder. Those messages might exist in Trash
> >>but thats okay.
> >>
> >>Empty Trash -> Remove all messages from Trash and compact
> >>all folders where the messages were initially. e.g. if Trash
> >>had 1 message that was initially in Inbox, delete message
> >>and compact Inbox. If Trash had 1 message that was initially
> >>in folder X (because I had used Filters), then delete
> >>message and compact Folder X.
> >>
> >>So far so good?
> >>
> >>Now, my only problem is that I don't like the idea of Empty
> >>Trash doing compaction as well. I'd much rather keep them
> >>separate.
> >>
> >>
> >>Make sense?
> >>
> >
> > Nope.  It defies logic.  The whole point of emptying the trash
> > is to completely eradicate the message forever.  If you don't
> > want to do this, don't empty the trash.
> 
> Okay fine. I disagree with you but I'll cave in if Mozilla deletes the
> messages from server when I delete them from Inbox and not when I Empty
> Trash.
> 
> - Pratik (still wishing there was a pref for this).

Ok, lets try this again ....

1. Messages deleted in mail do not go to the recycle bin, there is NO
functionality between deleting messages and the recycle bin whatsoever.

2. Messages deleted in the inbox or other folders OTHER than "trash" are
not deleted, they are MARKED for deletion and henceforth reside in the
TRASH folder.

3. Emptying TRASH deletes messages that were MARKED for deletion. These
deleted messages do NOT go to the "recycle bin". They are gone to
magnetic heaven.

4. Compacting Folders has nothing whatsoever to do with deleting
messages or marking messages for deletion. It is a totally unrelated
feature.

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