And it came to pass that Jay Garcia wrote:
> Pratik wrote:
>>
>> Christopher Jahn wrote:
>> <snip>
>>
>> >>I want them eliminated from the server, thats why.
>> >>
>> >
>> > It's my understanding that they are removed when you
>> > delete the message to the Trash Bin. Emptying the Trash
>> > Bin should have no effect on your server - that's a disk
>> > issue.
>>
>> If this is the case then my problem is solved. But I
>> suspect this is not the case. I always thought I had to
>> Empty Trash to have the messages deleted from the server.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > I don't
>> >
>> >>like the fact that it also compacts although from the
>> >>sound of it, I think I might have to live with it (But
>> >>*please* give me a pref to turn it off).
>> >>
>> >>In fact while at this, it might be really nice to say,
>> >>'delete this mail with huge attachment from the server
>> >>but leave it in my inbox bcos its important'.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Why not remove it from the server when you download it in
>> > the first place? Most sysadmins would prefer you do
>> > this.
>>
>> The problem is with POP mail. I use multiple computers to
>> check email and without leaving them on the server, there's
>> no way for me to do this. The sysadmins are planning to
>> move to IMAP, so my problem should go away when they do
>> that.
>>
>> >>>Compacting folders does nothing more than it claims, it
>> >>>does NOT mark for deletion nor does it eliminate
>> >>>messages, they are still there and readable after you
>> >>>compact folders.
>> >>>
>> >>>I think you are confused as to the functionality of both
>> >>>the features.
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >>I am actually a little confused by your statement. Let me
>> >>rephrase and you can tell me if I am right
>> >>
>> >>Compacting Folders -> Remove all messages that are marked
>> >>deleted in the folder. Those messages might exist in
>> >>Trash but thats okay.
>> >>
>> >>Empty Trash -> Remove all messages from Trash and compact
>> >>all folders where the messages were initially. e.g. if
>> >>Trash had 1 message that was initially in Inbox, delete
>> >>message and compact Inbox. If Trash had 1 message that
>> >>was initially in folder X (because I had used Filters),
>> >>then delete message and compact Folder X.
>> >>
>> >>So far so good?
>> >>
>> >>Now, my only problem is that I don't like the idea of
>> >>Empty Trash doing compaction as well. I'd much rather
>> >>keep them separate.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>Make sense?
>> >>
>> >
>> > Nope. It defies logic. The whole point of emptying the
>> > trash is to completely eradicate the message forever. If
>> > you don't want to do this, don't empty the trash.
>>
>> Okay fine. I disagree with you but I'll cave in if Mozilla
>> deletes the messages from server when I delete them from
>> Inbox and not when I Empty Trash.
>>
>> - Pratik (still wishing there was a pref for this).
>
> Ok, lets try this again ....
>
> 1. Messages deleted in mail do not go to the recycle bin,
> there is NO functionality between deleting messages and the
> recycle bin whatsoever.
>
> 2. Messages deleted in the inbox or other folders OTHER than
> "trash" are not deleted, they are MARKED for deletion and
> henceforth reside in the TRASH folder.
Recycle? Where'd that enter this discussion? No one is
disputing the action of the TRASH folder. Pratik is aware ofit,
as am I.
>
> 3. Emptying TRASH deletes messages that were MARKED for
> deletion. These deleted messages do NOT go to the "recycle
> bin". They are gone to magnetic heaven.
AGain with the recycle bin!
And again, this is not in contention - this is what happens, and
Pratik acknowledges it. In fact, this is his complaint.
>
> 4. Compacting Folders has nothing whatsoever to do with
> deleting messages or marking messages for deletion. It is a
> totally unrelated feature.
>
Again, not a point of contention.
What Pratik is complaining about is that when he empties the
trash, those messages go away. What he is looking to do is to
remove messages from the server, but leave them in the Trash
Bin.
So the question is really this:
When the Preferences is to delete the message on the server when
the message is deleted locally, is it deleted when the message
is moved to the Trash Bin, or only when the Trash Bin is
emptied?
--
}:-) Christopher Jahn
{:-( Dionysian Reveler
Take the skin and peel it back... now doesn't it make you feel
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