the lurkers should be having a fit over the last couple of weeks threads...
glad i don't have to attend any of those meetings!!! not to mention having
to try to keep a straight face and convince someone that it's in their best
interest to buy into the altium way of business...

" ..see we will get your money no matter what. if you want you can give it
to us every year, starting the year of your initial purchase. or we will
kindly give you the option of allowing you to earn interest on the money you
don't give us every year and you can then give us interest and principle
when you choose! if you think about it... it's a win, win situation. either
way we win!!! woo ha ha ha ha !!!!!"

anyone want to buy a bridge. drop me an line... i'll give you a h*ll of a
deal!


----- Original Message -----
From: "Bagotronix Tech Support" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:23 PM
Subject: Re: [PEDA] Upgrade Pricing Ethics WAS: Not DXP or P99SE, but have
you seen the Cadence offer!!!!


> Yes, Rene, by definition, everything decided is a decision...
>
> However, some decisions are worse than others.  This morning I decided
> whether to eat a bagel and grapefruit juice at home, or get a McDonald's
> biscuit and orange juice on the way to the office.  I chose the McD
biscuit.
> That was an OK decision.  But if this morning I had decided to rob a bank
> instead of go to work at the office, that would have been a bad decision.
I
> can imagine the excuses that Andersen, Enron, and Worldcom executives may
be
> giving for their actions "it was an executive decision".  Well, duh, they
> were executives and they made decisions.  VERY BAD ONES!
>
> I won't be basing my beliefs on what is fair by what Microsoft (or Altium)
> do.  If I started operating my business that way, I would be out of
business
> quickly ("Thank you for your order.  Oh, did I mention that your price
just
> went up 100%?  That's because we came out with Rev C of the board and you
> never bought any Rev B boards, just Rev A's.  If you had bought some Rev
> B's, you new price for Rev C's would be only 50% higher.").
>
> Best regards,
> Ivan Baggett
> Bagotronix Inc.
> website:  www.bagotronix.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rene Tschaggelar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 12:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [PEDA] Re[2]: Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the Cadence
> offer!!!!
>
>
> > Isn't it the other way round ?
> > Having bought the last version you're regarded as 'good' customer
> > and get a higher discount than another one that bought something
> > 10 years back ?
> > Anyway, it is a decision. Microsoft decided in the case of office
> > software that there are those who have a service agreement ($$$)
> > and all the others are new customers that always pay the full
> > price.
> > There is no obligation to offer a discount, really.
> >
> > Rene
> >
> > Bagotronix Tech Support wrote:
> > >
> > > I wonder if the software can tell, during installation, which version
> you
> > > actually had and refuse to install if it's not the "upgrade jump" you
> paid
> > > for?
> > >
> > > IMO, I think it's a shady business practice to charge someone more for
> an
> > > upgrade just because they skipped a version.  That's the same as
forcing
> > > them to buy something they didn't want.  They didn't get the use of
> those
> > > intermediate versions, so why should they pay for them?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > Ivan Baggett
> > > Bagotronix Inc.
> > > website:  www.bagotronix.com
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Rene Tschaggelar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: "Protel EDA Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:40 AM
> > > Subject: Re: [PEDA] Re[2]: Not DXP or P99SE, but have you seen the
> Cadence
> > > offer!!!!
> > >
> > > > My distributor told me yesterday, that ATS was additional to the
usual
> > > > upgradeability. Meaning you can get DXP whenever you want. The price
> > > > increases with the number of versions you're behind. Same as when
you
> > > > now upgrade a 2.8 to 99SE, which is more expensive than a 98 to a
> > > > 99SE.
> > > > Together with DXP you get ATS, whatever this for a year and you
don't
> > > > have to extend it when it expires.
>
>
>
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