Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
Forest, How far away are we from being able to order the new larger units with just Cambium power and sync? Got a few projects coming up soon and I would love to put one unit instead or two or three. Thanks, Brandon From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Forrest Christian (List Account) Sent: Friday, April 17, 2015 2:37 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too? In progress :) I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was going to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a side effect of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to solving them. But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the curtain so to speak: At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, which means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each other (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the connectors sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside down with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and rigid enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed to be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them to that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to work with gigabit on the syncinjector. -forrest On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE injectors... On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yup screwed there :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: No pinout!? On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: What does
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
In progress :) I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was going to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a side effect of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to solving them. But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the curtain so to speak: At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, which means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each other (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the connectors sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside down with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and rigid enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed to be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them to that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to work with gigabit on the syncinjector. -forrest On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE injectors... On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yup screwed there :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: No pinout!? On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but gigabit? On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. Obviously the ePMP works. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: AFAIK, the
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
We need one product that does gig for Af5x, epmp and ubnt. That would be glorious. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 17, 2015 3:36 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com wrote: In progress :) I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was going to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a side effect of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to solving them. But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the curtain so to speak: At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, which means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each other (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the connectors sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside down with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and rigid enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed to be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them to that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to work with gigabit on the syncinjector. -forrest On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE injectors... On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yup screwed there :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: No pinout!? On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but gigabit? On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
Tycon makes these little dongles that flip the brown/blues which should work in the meantime. Also, I believe the Netonix switches can do all three of those at GigE (where oh where is the DC version). Josh On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: We need one product that does gig for Af5x, epmp and ubnt. That would be glorious. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 17, 2015 3:36 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com wrote: In progress :) I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was going to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a side effect of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to solving them. But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the curtain so to speak: At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, which means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each other (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the connectors sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside down with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and rigid enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed to be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them to that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to work with gigabit on the syncinjector. -forrest On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE injectors... On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yup screwed there :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: No pinout!? On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
Why not make the jumper changeable in a web UI? then you don't have to worry about a new plastic mold for the case? — Sent from Mailbox On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com wrote: In progress :) I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was going to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a side effect of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to solving them. But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the curtain so to speak: At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, which means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each other (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the connectors sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside down with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and rigid enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed to be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them to that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to work with gigabit on the syncinjector. -forrest On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE injectors... On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yup screwed there :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: No pinout!? On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but gigabit? On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I'm mostly concerned with the
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
So two products do 2/3 of those products. Augh! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com wrote: The gigabit poe injectors do this, but without sync. And with some fusing and wiring issues. This would add the sync and clean up wiring. On Apr 17, 2015 8:37 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: We need one product that does gig for Af5x, epmp and ubnt. That would be glorious. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 17, 2015 3:36 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com wrote: In progress :) I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was going to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a side effect of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to solving them. But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the curtain so to speak: At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, which means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each other (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the connectors sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside down with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and rigid enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed to be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them to that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to work with gigabit on the syncinjector. -forrest On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE injectors... On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yup screwed there :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: No pinout!? On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It says 24v/1a and is gigabit.
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
It's pretty simple why this isn't in the cards. Today there's a single switching element per port. To make this switchable there would need to be eight per port.. One for positive and one for negative for each pair. Each switching element adds about two dollars to the cost of the product when it's all done. So for a twelve port box you end up adding 84 switching elements, and increasing the price of the product by around $160 or so. This would put the final product price in the realm of too expensive for most. Not to mention that those added circuit elements need to fit somewhere so you're back to a larger enclosure. The enclosure we use is machined, not molded, so a few holes are almost free, same for a few jumpers. On Apr 17, 2015 5:14 AM, Work timothy.pct...@gmail.com wrote: Why not make the jumper changeable in a web UI? then you don't have to worry about a new plastic mold for the case? — Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 3:36 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com wrote: In progress :) I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was going to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a side effect of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to solving them. But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the curtain so to speak: At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, which means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each other (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the connectors sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside down with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and rigid enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed to be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them to that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to work with gigabit on the syncinjector. -forrest On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE injectors... On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yup screwed there :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's on the
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
The gigabit poe injectors do this, but without sync. And with some fusing and wiring issues. This would add the sync and clean up wiring. On Apr 17, 2015 8:37 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: We need one product that does gig for Af5x, epmp and ubnt. That would be glorious. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 17, 2015 3:36 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com wrote: In progress :) I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was going to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a side effect of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to solving them. But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the curtain so to speak: At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, which means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each other (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the connectors sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside down with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and rigid enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed to be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them to that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to work with gigabit on the syncinjector. -forrest On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE injectors... On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yup screwed there :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: No pinout!? On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
Not if you use the external GPS pucks for ePMP. You are still out luck for PMP100, though. On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com wrote: Pretty much. The whole sync thing is the problem. On Apr 17, 2015 12:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: So two products do 2/3 of those products. Augh! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com wrote: The gigabit poe injectors do this, but without sync. And with some fusing and wiring issues. This would add the sync and clean up wiring. On Apr 17, 2015 8:37 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: We need one product that does gig for Af5x, epmp and ubnt. That would be glorious. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 17, 2015 3:36 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com wrote: In progress :) I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was going to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a side effect of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to solving them. But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the curtain so to speak: At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, which means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each other (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the connectors sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside down with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and rigid enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed to be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them to that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to work with gigabit on the syncinjector. -forrest On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE injectors... On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yup screwed there :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
But the gig/sync works on ePMP and not af5x because of the power pinout I thought? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 2:19 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com wrote: Pretty much. The whole sync thing is the problem. On Apr 17, 2015 12:13 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: So two products do 2/3 of those products. Augh! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Apr 17, 2015 at 1:55 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com wrote: The gigabit poe injectors do this, but without sync. And with some fusing and wiring issues. This would add the sync and clean up wiring. On Apr 17, 2015 8:37 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: We need one product that does gig for Af5x, epmp and ubnt. That would be glorious. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 17, 2015 3:36 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com wrote: In progress :) I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was going to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a side effect of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to solving them. But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the curtain so to speak: At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, which means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each other (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the connectors sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside down with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and rigid enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed to be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them to that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to work with gigabit on the syncinjector. -forrest On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE injectors... On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yup screwed there :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
I wouldn't care if a cover had to be taken off to adjust jumper positions. On 4/17/2015 12:55 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: The gigabit poe injectors do this, but without sync. And with some fusing and wiring issues. This would add the sync and clean up wiring. On Apr 17, 2015 8:37 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: We need one product that does gig for Af5x, epmp and ubnt. That would be glorious. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 17, 2015 3:36 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com mailto:li...@packetflux.com wrote: In progress :) I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was going to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a side effect of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to solving them. But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the curtain so to speak: At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, which means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each other (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the connectors sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside down with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and rigid enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed to be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them to that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to work with gigabit on the syncinjector. -forrest On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE injectors... On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yup screwed there :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember right, the AF5x
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
I would pay extra to avoid it. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 17, 2015 6:37 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: I wouldn't care if a cover had to be taken off to adjust jumper positions. On 4/17/2015 12:55 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: The gigabit poe injectors do this, but without sync. And with some fusing and wiring issues. This would add the sync and clean up wiring. On Apr 17, 2015 8:37 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: We need one product that does gig for Af5x, epmp and ubnt. That would be glorious. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 17, 2015 3:36 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) li...@packetflux.com wrote: In progress :) I was going to hold off announcing this until we were sure it was going to work, since the 'mechanical issues' we're working through are a side effect of this, and I'm confident but not 100% sure we're close to solving them. But since it was brought up I'll give a bit of a look behind the curtain so to speak: At some point the light went on in my head that I could add a set of jumpers to each port just like on the Gigabit PoE injectors and make the syncinjectors radio-universal. I struggled with how to make the jumpers accessible until I realized that I could just get some more holes cut in the bottom of the syncinjector case. For the existing 4 port injectors, this isn't a problem as those holes can be added to the side of the case closest the circuit board and we can put the jumpers on the side of the circuit board closest to the holes and everything would work fine. Unfortunately, the syncinjector currently in work is the 12 port injector. This adds an additional hurdle that there are two boards, each with 12 ports. Each board needs to be close to a side to make this work, which means the orientation of the boards are flipped in relation to each other (laying the unit on it's side, one is 'right side up' with the connectors sitting on the circuit board, and the other board is upside down with the connectors hanging from it (just like in the existing product)), effectively placing the two boards themselves as far apart as possible in the enclosure. This isn't a problem except that the enclosure is two U shaped pieces of plastic which the boards snap into one U and then the second U snaps on the resulting assembly as a cover. With two boards, one ends up very near the bottom of the U which requires a fair bit of flexibility to be able to snap the board into without breaking the enclosure. The other board ends up very near the top of the U which requires a fair bit of ridigidity to hold the board in place given the distance the sides are from the U. We think that the current material we're planning on having the enclosures use will be both flexible and rigid enough - but its' been a bit of a challenge ensuring that. I'm supposed to be getting first samples soon and if that works, we'll be shipping the 12 port injectors with 4 jumpers per port to set the pinning. If this iteration doesn't work, we'll just go to production with the 12 port injectors without the jumpers and a mechanically less-troublesome orientation and then re-spin the 4 port injector fairly soon to add them to that product, and then re-visit the 12 port injector jumpers at some future date, possibly after the rackmount stuff (hopefully) finally comes out. On the other hand, in the meantime, there isn't any reason why you shouldn't be able to swap the blue and brown pairs in the cable going both into and out of the current syncinjectors to get the non-canopy radios to work with gigabit on the syncinjector. -forrest On Apr 16, 2015 6:03 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE injectors... On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yup screwed there :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber
[AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, 5, 7 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 8, it may be possible, but... you'd have to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that would do for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use a 568B to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, but I'm not sure about crossed blues and browns. Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs up or down. On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
Yup screwed there :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: No pinout!? On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but gigabit? On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. Obviously the ePMP works. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, 5, 7 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 8, it may be possible, but... you'd have to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that would do for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use a 568B to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, but I'm not sure about crossed blues and browns. Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs up or down. On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
I saw that too =P Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:30 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: You said maxipad. On 4/16/2015 5:25 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: Sorry - read that wrong. The gigabit power injector works fine, I don't know about the syncinjector. Bah... Loconanogigasyncinjecotorairmaxipad. Mark Radabaugh Amplex 27800 Lemoyne, Ste F Millbury, OH 43447 419-261-5996 On Apr 16, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
No pinout!? On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com mailto:geo...@cbcast.com wrote: What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but gigabit? On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. Obviously the ePMP works. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com mailto:geo...@cbcast.com wrote: AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, 5, 7 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 8, it may be possible, but... you'd have to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that would do for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use a 568B to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, but I'm not sure about crossed blues and browns. Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs up or down. On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
Sorry - read that wrong. The gigabit power injector works fine, I don't know about the syncinjector. Bah... Loconanogigasyncinjecotorairmaxipad. Mark Radabaugh Amplex 27800 Lemoyne, Ste F Millbury, OH 43447 419-261-5996 On Apr 16, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
Works fine for the air fiber 24hd. Mark Radabaugh Amplex 27800 Lemoyne, Ste F Millbury, OH 43447 419-261-5996 On Apr 16, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
Isn't that Apple's next product? http://money.cnn.com/2015/03/05/technology/12-9-inch-ipad/ Mark On Apr 16, 2015, at 6:30 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: You said maxipad. On 4/16/2015 5:25 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: Sorry - read that wrong. The gigabit power injector works fine, I don't know about the syncinjector. Bah... Loconanogigasyncinjecotorairmaxipad. Mark Radabaugh Amplex 27800 Lemoyne, Ste F Millbury, OH 43447 419-261-5996 On Apr 16, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
The gigabit UBNT stuff (excluding AF5x and AF) has to have ground on pins 3 6 to connect at a gig. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:02 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE injectors... On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yup screwed there :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: No pinout!? On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but gigabit? On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. Obviously the ePMP works. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, 5, 7 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 8, it may be possible, but... you'd have to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that would do for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use a 568B to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, but I'm not sure about crossed blues and browns. Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs up or down. On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but gigabit? On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. Obviously the ePMP works. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com mailto:geo...@cbcast.com wrote: AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, 5, 7 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 8, it may be possible, but... you'd have to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that would do for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use a 568B to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, but I'm not sure about crossed blues and browns. Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs up or down. On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 tel:937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 tel:937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but gigabit? On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. Obviously the ePMP works. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, 5, 7 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 8, it may be possible, but... you'd have to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that would do for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use a 568B to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, but I'm not sure about crossed blues and browns. Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs up or down. On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: No pinout!? On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but gigabit? On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. Obviously the ePMP works. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, 5, 7 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 8, it may be possible, but... you'd have to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that would do for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use a 568B to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, but I'm not sure about crossed blues and browns. Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs up or down. On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
So what we need is a Syncinjector with jumpers like on the Gigabit PoE injectors... On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:57 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Yup screwed there :( Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Apr 16, 2015 7:42 PM, Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com wrote: If I remember right, the AF5x pinout is 1/2 4/5 positive and 3/6 7/8 negative. Airmax stuff is all 4/5 positive and 7/8 negative, I imagine the 10/100 stuff would work fine with the power pairs swapped, but I don't know what that would do to gigabit. I don't think it's going to work with AF5x, since they use power on all four pairs. On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: I didn't check...sorry. It's on the roof so I can go up and look tomorrow. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 7:14 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: No pinout!? On 4/16/2015 6:10 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: It says 24v/1a and is gigabit. It is a bit different than the Nanobeam POEs. It also doesn't work with an NSM5 for certain. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:39 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: What does the AF5x power supply say on the label for pairs or pinouts? Or is it the same as their other 24V/1A supplies, but gigabit? On 4/16/2015 5:29 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. Obviously the ePMP works. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, 5, 7 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 8, it may be possible, but... you'd have to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that would do for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use a 568B to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, but I'm not sure about crossed blues and browns. Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs up or down. On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
I'm mostly concerned with the Ubnt Airmax stuff (24v) and AF5x. Obviously the ePMP works. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 6:12 PM, George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting) geo...@cbcast.com wrote: AFAIK, the 450AP GigE interface is still powered only on pins 4, 5, 7 8. Probably applies to the ePMP Sync radio too. So, with that in mind.. does the UBNT GigE PoE stuff use all 4 pairs for power? If it's 4, 5, 7 8, it may be possible, but... you'd have to flip the blues and browns at one end. I don't know what that would do for the GigE data interface though. It might not work. You can use a 568B to 568A (aka standard cross-over) cable and GigE still works fine, but I'm not sure about crossed blues and browns. Someone smarter than me would probably have to give you a thumbs up or down. On 4/16/2015 4:55 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
Re: [AFMUG] Packetflux Gigabit SyncInjector for 24 Volt Cambium Radios - Ubnt too?
You said maxipad. On 4/16/2015 5:25 PM, Mark Radabaugh wrote: Sorry - read that wrong. The gigabit power injector works fine, I don't know about the syncinjector. Bah... Loconanogigasyncinjecotorairmaxipad. Mark Radabaugh Amplex 27800 Lemoyne, Ste F Millbury, OH 43447 419-261-5996 On Apr 16, 2015, at 5:55 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com wrote: Has anyone tried these syncinjectors for Ubnt Airmax radios? What about anything else? I'd love to use this one product for all sites from now on. Is it possible to run the AF5x? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373
