RE: [Flightgear-devel] Spitfire

2004-07-22 Thread Innis Cunningham
Hi Vivian "Vivian Meazza" writes I've implemented a Coffman cartridge starter, and it would be nice to have a cloud of black smoke come out of the exhaust and drift downwind at wind speed before dispersing. I can do the first bit, but not the rest. I have my eye on Fred's bump-mapped 3D clouds.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts

2004-07-22 Thread Durk Talsma
I'll wrap up the new traffic files tonight. I the mean time, I've add small tar file containing the necessary traffic files. Should work, but haven't had much chance of testing it. Cheers, Durk On Friday 23 July 2004 07:21, Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Jonathan Polley wrote: > > I just updated ton

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts

2004-07-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Jonathan Polley wrote: > I just updated tonight and FlightGear no longer runs on the Mac. As of > last night, everything ran just file, but after updating everything > (SimGear, FlightGear, and base packages) I get an abort. The gdb > backtrace is: ... It is the same for everybody until some f

[Flightgear-devel] Problem with autogen in SuSe Linux Pro 9.1

2004-07-22 Thread Dave Perry
Perhaps this has been discussed before, but I just updated my SuSe Linux to 9.1 pro and the various autogen scripts are not working right. The following errors occurred after updating plib from cvs and runing autogen: cvs update -dP dadsoffice:/usr/local/source/plib # sh autogen.sh Running aclo

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest OpenAL for new build?

2004-07-22 Thread Norman Vine
Jon Berndt writes: > > > > > > Right now we are relying on Norman Vine's OpenAL files. We must just hope > > > that Norman can find the tme to update when and if required. > > > > The Makefile I used is in my tarball and the only changes I made > > in the code are in the header files < also in the

[Flightgear-devel] Latest CVS Aborts

2004-07-22 Thread Jonathan Polley
I just updated tonight and FlightGear no longer runs on the Mac. As of last night, everything ran just file, but after updating everything (SimGear, FlightGear, and base packages) I get an abort. The gdb backtrace is: Using Mac OS X hack for initializing C++ stdio... Failed to find runway 28R

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest OpenAL for new build?

2004-07-22 Thread Jon Berndt
> Vivian Meazza writes: > > > > Right now we are relying on Norman Vine's OpenAL files. We must just hope > > that Norman can find the tme to update when and if required. > > The Makefile I used is in my tarball and the only changes I made > in the code are in the header files < also in the tarball

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Initializing OpenAL sound manager

2004-07-22 Thread Matthew
Just installed OpenAL via CVS, no difference...Still aborts. Matt On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 19:03, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: > I have had the same problem. I fixed it by compiling and installing the > latest OpenAL CVS. > > Regards, > Ampere > > On July 22, 2004 08:32 pm, Matthew wrote: > > Good

Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I think it will be a good idea to identify what file(s) are missing before aborting. Loading the glider is just a waste of time. Regards, Ampere On July 22, 2004 05:08 pm, Durk Talsma wrote: > That's actually a message indicating that the AIModel subsystem can't find > a model. I'm not yet sure

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest OpenAL for new build?

2004-07-22 Thread Norman Vine
Vivian Meazza writes: > > Right now we are relying on Norman Vine's OpenAL files. We must just hope > that Norman can find the tme to update when and if required. The Makefile I used is in my tarball and the only changes I made in the code are in the header files < also in the tarball > Note: Y

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Initializing OpenAL sound manager

2004-07-22 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I have had the same problem. I fixed it by compiling and installing the latest OpenAL CVS. Regards, Ampere On July 22, 2004 08:32 pm, Matthew wrote: > Good day, > >Thought I'd post here instead of IRC, in case anyone hits the same > > issue: > >fgfs > > Initializing OpenAL sound manager > A

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Still need opinions/suggestions re: recommendation to Robin Peel/airport taxiway data format

2004-07-22 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I think someone should implement the followings: 1. Treat each taxi way as a line. 2. Joint the end of two taxi ways together. http://www.student.yorku.ca/~ampere/STEP1.jpg 3. Apply fillet. http://www.student.yorku.ca/~ampere/STEP2.jpg 4. Apply loth. http://www.student.yorku.ca/~ampere/STEP3.jpg

Re: [Flightgear-devel] create craters and smoke effect

2004-07-22 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On July 22, 2004 02:13 pm, CHANDRASEKHAR ACHALLA wrote: > I need to > create a crater (hole) if a plane crashes Plane crash doesn't create craters. All there is is a black patch. > (or a missile ) ... > . I also need to > simulate smoke and fire coming out of the crater. If you also want the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Prerelease 2 and traffic manger

2004-07-22 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I guess he saw the same problem that we solved a few days ago. ;-) Regards, Ampere On July 22, 2004 02:17 pm, Durk Talsma wrote: > What kind of problems did you see? ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-22 Thread Bernie Bright
Jim Wilson wrote: globals->get_tile_mgr()->all_queues_empty() and cur_fdm_state->get_inited()) { ^^^ ^^^ Same here. That's a head scratcher. Never would have thought that would compile like that. Learn something new everyday. C++ provides keyword equi

[Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] fix for scenery load non standard code

2004-07-22 Thread Jim Wilson
Fix for those picky c++ compilers that actually insist on c++ syntax. cvs diff file: http://www.spiderbark.com/fgfs/sceneryloadpascaloops.diff ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-de

[Flightgear-devel] Initializing OpenAL sound manager

2004-07-22 Thread Matthew
Good day, Thought I'd post here instead of IRC, in case anyone hits the same issue: >fgfs Initializing OpenAL sound manager Aborted Splash screen appears, then the above appears. Using SuSE 9.1, OpenAL development is installed along with openal-20030811-196 Sound does work and I am using usi

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-22 Thread Jim Wilson
Frederic Bouvier said: > Erik Hofman wrote: > > > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Main > > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv28544/src/Main > > > > Modified Files: > > fg_init.cxx main.cxx > > Log Message: > > Jim Wilson: This patch prevents FDM execution until intial scenery load

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Latest OpenAL for new build?

2004-07-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:flightgear-devel- > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jon S Berndt > Sent: 22 July 2004 23:04 > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest OpenAL for new build? > > On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:36:40 -0700

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest OpenAL for new build?

2004-07-22 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 12:36:40 -0700 John Wojnaroski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Curtis L. Olson wrote: John Wojnaroski wrote: Trying a build of the latest pre-0.9.5 release... SimGear compile fails on sample_openal implicit declaration of alGetsourcei(...) and alutLoadWAVFile() Searched the includ

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Prerelease 2 and traffic manger

2004-07-22 Thread Jon S Berndt
On Thu, 22 Jul 2004 20:17:34 +0200 Durk Talsma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What kind of problems did you see? I've sent a lot of changes to Erik about two weeks ago. That update fixed a lot of stuff, including the autopilot, which makes it a lot easier to fly. The CVS version is a little heavy

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: FlightGear/src/Mainfg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-22 Thread Boris Koenig
Frederic Bouvier wrote: Boris Koenig wrote: Are we silently migrating the code to Pascal ? This doesn't compile with MSVC. lol, GREAT :-) don't know about MSVC++, but how about ios646.h ? and why not #define BEGIN { #define END } ? :-)) More seriously, does it brings us something we are missing

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs]CVS: FlightGear/src/Mainfg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Boris Koenig wrote: > Frederic Bouvier wrote: > > >>! if (!cur_fdm_state->get_inited() or > > > > fgGetBool("sim/sceneryloaded")) { > > > > ^^ > > Are we silently migrating the code to Pascal ? > > This doesn't compile with MSVC. > > lol, GR

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-22 Thread Boris Koenig
Frederic Bouvier wrote: ! if (!cur_fdm_state->get_inited() or fgGetBool("sim/sceneryloaded")) { ^^ Are we silently migrating the code to Pascal ? This doesn't compile with MSVC. lol, GREAT :-) don't know about MSVC++, but how about ios646.h ? ---

Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
> Apparently, TrafficManager is complaining because Traffic/KLM/KLM.xml > is missing Traffic/UAL/UAL.xml is also not there. -Fred ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Frederic Bouvier wrote: > Durk Talsma wrote: > > > > > > I don't see any traffic files at all so maybe that is the problem. It > > > looks like it all got removed on the last update. > > > > > > > I do see them in fgfs-base-0.9.5-pre2. In data/Traffic. Are you referring > to > > CVS or to the pre

RE: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Durk Talsma wrote > Sent: 22 July 2004 22:09 > To: FlightGear developers discussions > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue > > On Thursday 22 July 2004 22:37, Vivian Meazza wrote: > > > Initializing OpenAL sound manager > > Unknown exception in the main loop.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Durk Talsma wrote: > > > I don't see any traffic files at all so maybe that is the problem. It > > looks like it all got removed on the last update. > > > > I do see them in fgfs-base-0.9.5-pre2. In data/Traffic. Are you referring to > CVS or to the pre-release. Erik has commited a few changes ju

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-cvslogs] CVS: FlightGear/src/Main fg_init.cxx, 1.104, 1.105 main.cxx, 1.171, 1.172

2004-07-22 Thread Frederic Bouvier
Erik Hofman wrote: > Update of /var/cvs/FlightGear-0.9/FlightGear/src/Main > In directory baron:/tmp/cvs-serv28544/src/Main > > Modified Files: > fg_init.cxx main.cxx > Log Message: > Jim Wilson: This patch prevents FDM execution until intial scenery load completes making > midair starts in the KS

Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Durk Talsma
On Thursday 22 July 2004 22:37, Vivian Meazza wrote: > Initializing OpenAL sound manager > Unknown exception in the main loop. Aborting... > Segmentation fault (core dumped) That's actually a message indicating that the AIModel subsystem can't find a model. I'm not yet sure how to handle this be

Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Durk Talsma
> I don't see any traffic files at all so maybe that is the problem. It > looks like it all got removed on the last update. > I do see them in fgfs-base-0.9.5-pre2. In data/Traffic. Are you referring to CVS or to the pre-release. Erik has commited a few changes just about a few hours ago (than

Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Jim Wilson
Durk Talsma said: > I just saw this overhere as well, although I didn't check the log files so > carefully. This is probably caused by a the missing aircraft, because I don't > see this in my CVS version. > > The short term solution is going to be that we're removing MD-11 traffic. > I don't

RE: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
Jim Wilson wrote > Sent: 22 July 2004 20:54 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue > > Just tried CVS and we're aborting right after the log entry for Traffic > Manager. > > BTW I noticed in the command line help we're showing "0=verbose, 5=

Re: [Flightgear-devel] create craters and smoke effect

2004-07-22 Thread Boris Koenig
CHANDRASEKHAR ACHALLA wrote: I was also wondering if flightgear already has the fire and smoke effects. I would appreciate if anybody has any ideas.. The crater/fire/smoke stuff sounds a lot like the feature suggestions that I read about a couple of days ago for a "combat" enabled version of Fl

Re: [Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Durk Talsma
I just saw this overhere as well, although I didn't check the log files so carefully. This is probably caused by a the missing aircraft, because I don't see this in my CVS version. The short term solution is going to be that we're removing MD-11 traffic. Cheers, Durk On Thursday 22 July 2004

Re: [Flightgear-devel] create craters and smoke effect

2004-07-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
CHANDRASEKHAR ACHALLA wrote: I am doing a project for Boeing where I am trying to incorporate a few additional features they want into Flightgear. Initially I need to create a crater (hole) if a plane crashes (or a missile ). I also need to simulate smoke and fire coming out of the crater. For crea

[Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] shrinking dialogs

2004-07-22 Thread Jim Wilson
This is a workaround for an issue where the xml dialogs were shrinking on subsequent pops. Andy Ross says: That looks like it should be fine for a release-time workaround. The 2 pixel border on dialogs is at best a minor feature, and probably invisible since the sub-frames all have their own pad

Re: [Flightgear-devel] create craters and smoke effect

2004-07-22 Thread Jim Wilson
Andy Ross said: > CHANDRASEKHAR ACHALLA wrote: > > I am doing a project for Boeing where I am trying to incorporate a > > few additional features they want into Flightgear. Initially I need > > to create a crater (hole) if a plane crashes (or a missile ). > > Boing wants craters? :) That's it!

[Flightgear-devel] cvs broken now and log-level doc issue

2004-07-22 Thread Jim Wilson
Just tried CVS and we're aborting right after the log entry for Traffic Manager. BTW I noticed in the command line help we're showing "0=verbose, 5=alerts only", but I think the numbers do not apply. I'd change it, but I'm not 100% sure what all the log-level options are. Best, Jim

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug in newgui code

2004-07-22 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: > I just tried this and it seems to work. Is this bad? Everything > seems to look ok here with this patch in place. That looks like it should be fine for a release-time workaround. The 2 pixel border on dialogs is at best a minor feature, and probably invisible since the sub-f

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest OpenAL for new build?

2004-07-22 Thread John Wojnaroski
Curtis L. Olson wrote: John Wojnaroski wrote: Trying a build of the latest pre-0.9.5 release... SimGear compile fails on sample_openal implicit declaration of alGetsourcei(...) and alutLoadWAVFile() Searched the include files for AL and there is an alGetsourceiv() and alGetSourcefv() but the ab

Re: [Flightgear-devel] create craters and smoke effect

2004-07-22 Thread Andy Ross
CHANDRASEKHAR ACHALLA wrote: > I am doing a project for Boeing where I am trying to incorporate a > few additional features they want into Flightgear. Initially I need > to create a crater (hole) if a plane crashes (or a missile ). Boing wants craters? :) This is actually kind of hard. The exis

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug in newgui code

2004-07-22 Thread Jim Wilson
Andy Ross said: > Jim Wilson wrote: > > On my system (CVS), the xml dialogs keep shrinking, just like Mike > > Teevee. > > Confirmed. Unfortunately my analysis has been delayed by the need to > google the Mike Teevee reference. :) > > Seriously, I'm really busy right now at work, so I'm hoping

[Flightgear-devel] Still need opinions/suggestions re: recommendation to Robin Peel/airport taxiway data format

2004-07-22 Thread Chris Metzler
Hi. I made this post a few weeks ago and didn't get much comment as to whether it was a good or bad idea, so figured I'd try again. Does this seem like a good idea? A lousy idea? An idea that can be improved by __? Thanks, -c Begin forwarded message: > > Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 16:56:32 -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Prerelease 2 and traffic manger

2004-07-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Durk Talsma wrote: Also, note that including the MD-11 at this stage is not my first preference: that would be including the new traffic manager and AIFlightplan code, and use *only* the 737 traffic. Done. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL

[Flightgear-devel] create craters and smoke effect

2004-07-22 Thread CHANDRASEKHAR ACHALLA
Hi, I am doing a project for Boeing where I am trying to incorporate a few additional features they want into Flightgear. Initially I need to create a crater (hole) if a plane crashes (or a missile ). I also need to simulate smoke and fire coming out of the crater. For creating a crater, I tried

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Prerelease 2 and traffic manger

2004-07-22 Thread Durk Talsma
What kind of problems did you see? I've sent a lot of changes to Erik about two weeks ago. That update fixed a lot of stuff, including the autopilot, which makes it a lot easier to fly. The CVS version is a little heavy during take-off. I.e. doesn't start pitching up until at about 200 kts, but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Bug in newgui code

2004-07-22 Thread Andy Ross
Jim Wilson wrote: > On my system (CVS), the xml dialogs keep shrinking, just like Mike > Teevee. Confirmed. Unfortunately my analysis has been delayed by the need to google the Mike Teevee reference. :) Seriously, I'm really busy right now at work, so I'm hoping someone else can hack at this for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Prerelease 2 and traffic manger

2004-07-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
Durk Talsma wrote: I just started building FlightGear-0.9.5-pre2. SimGear compiled and built fine, and FlightGear is compiling as I type. One thing I noticed is that the Traffic Manager issue still isn't resolved yet. fgfs-base-0.9.5 doesn't contain the MD-11, but the current traffic files req

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Latest OpenAL for new build?

2004-07-22 Thread Curtis L. Olson
John Wojnaroski wrote: Trying a build of the latest pre-0.9.5 release... SimGear compile fails on sample_openal implicit declaration of alGetsourcei(...) and alutLoadWAVFile() Searched the include files for AL and there is an alGetsourceiv() and alGetSourcefv() but the above functions are missin

[Flightgear-devel] Prerelease 2 and traffic manger

2004-07-22 Thread Durk Talsma
Hi Guys, I just started building FlightGear-0.9.5-pre2. SimGear compiled and built fine, and FlightGear is compiling as I type. One thing I noticed is that the Traffic Manager issue still isn't resolved yet. fgfs-base-0.9.5 doesn't contain the MD-11, but the current traffic files require thi

[Flightgear-devel] Latest OpenAL for new build?

2004-07-22 Thread John Wojnaroski
Hi, Trying a build of the latest pre-0.9.5 release... SimGear compile fails on sample_openal implicit declaration of alGetsourcei(...) and alutLoadWAVFile() Searched the include files for AL and there is an alGetsourceiv() and alGetSourcefv() but the above functions are missing. Running the sta

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] to fix SegFault in SimGear animation code

2004-07-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: Cool. Also, I posted a second patch for the scenery startup issue. I ended up using an xml dialog instead of nasal for the "Scenery Loading" message so it could also pop-up when teleporting to different airports. Probably I could have used nasal, but I'm just not up to speed o

RE: [Flightgear-devel] Spitfire

2004-07-22 Thread Vivian Meazza
I wrote > Sent: 16 July 2004 09:41 > To: 'FlightGear developers discussions' > Subject: RE: [Flightgear-devel] Spitfire > > > > Erik Hofman wrote > > > Sent: 16 July 2004 08:44 > > To: FlightGear developers discussions > > Subject: Re: [Flightgear-devel] Spitfire > > > > Vivian Meazza wrote:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] to fix SegFault in SimGear animation code

2004-07-22 Thread Jim Wilson
Erik Hofman said: > Jim Wilson wrote: > > Correct a typo that produces segfault during cleanup on some systems. > > Committed. Thanks. > Cool. Also, I posted a second patch for the scenery startup issue. I ended up using an xml dialog instead of nasal for the "Scenery Loading" message so it c

Re: [Flightgear-devel] [PATCH] to fix SegFault in SimGear animation code

2004-07-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Jim Wilson wrote: Correct a typo that produces segfault during cleanup on some systems. Committed. Thanks. Erik ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Took advantage of Erik's...

2004-07-22 Thread Erik Hofman
Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Thank you. So, is there anyway to include more than one XML file? The reason I ask is because I have multiple mesh files, and each of them has its own XML animation file. I would like to tell all of them where the livery resides in in one single XML file. In most ca