Alex Balkam wrote:
> It may be time for Frameworks to consider contacting the higher ups at Kodak
> to express the importance that the less industrial, less Hollywood products
> really need to be maintained during this challenging time in order that we
> can continue to expose young filmmakers
> The daylight spool issue is important. I always try to remember to ask the
> lab to return them otherwise they keep them and sell them.
>
I don't know how things are in the UK or US at present, but back in the last
decade when I was spooling off 400' cores onto 100' daylight loads for my
stu
MPEG Streamclip will not do the job alone for commercial DVDs. They're copy
protected. Capturing clips from them for educational/scholarly purposes is Fair
Use, but the technology to defeat the copy protection is illegal.
AFAIK, there are only two current Mac apps that rip copy-protected discs:
> Most of the DVDs I've come across aren't copy protected, but it's still a two
> step process. Handbrake, which is freeware will rip the NTSC DVD to a mpeg 4
> format, then I use mpeg streamclip to make a mov file. With PAL DVD you can
> rip it with just mpeg streamclip.
That's a poor workflow
> I assume that video recorded on a satellite DVR receiver is compressed much
> more than on a DVD, right?
Not necessarily. Some DVDs are much more compressed than others. Satellite
receivers are getting MPEG2 streams, the same basic data format as DVD. I'm not
sure exactly how much bandwidth i
If it shows as charged, and then runs the camera at all just not well, does it
still show as charged after that?
A bad cable would likely produce intermittent power, not weak power.
.
The thing to do is isolate the source of the problem. Don't go out an get your
battery recelled until you
> Ooof. Sorry, I was imagining a battery belt. Sorry, I think my info is bad.
Any NiCAD/NiMH battery is made up of a number of individual cells, whether it
be configured as belt or brick. !2V almost always = 10 cells at 1.2V ea.
The only kind of battery that comes as one big singular thing is S
Matt:
I doubt you'll find good models at other schools. In my travels, college sound
facilities have either been created from the ground up as part of an expensive
building project, or jury rigged into some existing space so cheaply and poorly
they're barely worth having. If you can find any sc
Kelly:
I highly recommend the work of Jeanne Stern: http://jeannestern.com/films.html
> I'm finalizing a syllabus for an upcoming handcrafted animation course... I'm
> especially looking for work made by women...
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Cherry-picking a definition from Google will not do for prescriptive
lexicopraphy:
> of, relating to, or being a mechanism in which data is represented by
> continuously variable physical quantities
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/analog
A photochemical film frame is an analog reprod
AFAIK there's no specific term for that. It would fall under the general
category of "Graphic Match" rather than 'Match On Action'. An MOA smooths out
an edit from one shot scale to another that takes place within continuous
screen-space and screen-time.
Like all film technique terms, the appli
The obvious but not yet mentioned:
Sins of the Fleshapoids - Mike Kuchar
Science Friction (and other works) - Stan Van Der Beek
America is Waiting, Mongoloid, Cosmic Ray, Mea Culpa - Bruce Conner
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Jeff:
> B&W neg, quite clearly, probably Kodak Double-X
Would they have pushed the stock? My impression has always been that Direct
Cinema first generation looked pretty crappy to begin with because they were
getting a lot of grain and getting grayer blacks etc, to shoot with available
light.
Juan Suarez, Bike Boys, Drag Queens and Superstars, Indiana U Press, 1996
[essential, imho]
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> -utopia
Sins of the Fleshapoids, and of course, Zardoz.
> -nuclear energy/war
> -The Cold War
Cristopher Maclaine: The End (essential)
Lots of Conner besides Crossroads: A Movie; Cosmic Ray; America is Waiting;
Report
Craig Baldwin: Wild Gunman, RocketKitKongoKit, Tribulation 99, ¡O No Coron
Chill out, people!
This is a Listserv. People write short posts quickly, and hit 'Send'.
"Rhetorical excess" comes with the territory as we dash off our thoughts w/o
reflecting deeply about whether our wording will read to others with the
meanings they had for us when they popped into our head
> Watching the film one could assumed Frampton followed a random process but
> i'm not sure about it.
It's not random at all. IIRC, both the length of all the cuts and the advance
between cuts are numbers of frames with some 'significance', e.g. I think the
shots may all be ~ 40 frames / 1 foot
When looking to re-power any Beaulieu, remember the original batterie were made
from no-obsolete NiCad cells. If you're going to the expense and effort of
re-celling a battery, you sure don't want to wind up with NiCads -- low
capacity and the dreaded memory effect. At a minimum, you'd want NiMH
If you're doing a screen capture to create footage from Google Maps, the
resolution of the image, the frame-rate, and the compression codec will all be
determined by the capture program. If you tell us what software you're using to
create the original files, and with what settings, we can help y
For Hollywood film, 'Die Hard' ia masterpiece of sound production. The SFX
carry a huge amount of information, tone and style, and (naturally) they're all
post-production, including lots of Foley. I heard the lead Foley artist give a
talk on it as part of an audio-art series many moons ago, and
An experimentalish narrative feature: The Draughtsman's Contract
> Maybe those early 70s S8 films of the British countryside by Derek Jarman, I
> always feel they contain menace in the pastoral views.
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Experimental filmmakers don't seem to get out of the city that much, and when
they do they're more likely to wax rhapsodic on 'nature'. I'm not sure "the
violence and ignorance that reign in the little villages" is something most
experimental makers would have cred handling, w/o condescendingly
> So far my go-to is usually "Neighbours" by McLaren, and "Dr. Strangelove" for
> a good narrative that won't get me in trouble..
If all the references to sex in 'Strangelove' -- and, you know, the apocalypse
-- are no trouble, you could show just about anything...
I'm not sure '12 and up' is w
I don't know of any specific models, but since 16fps was once the standard,
there must be really old 'silent only' projectors that run at that speed, yes?
I vaguely recall that some sound projectors can be made to run at 16fps by
changing a pulley. I'm guessing they wouldn't be Elmos or Eikis th
> It is in fact 'Sleep' that we'll be showing in Austin, TX in October; I'm not
> hopeful that I'll be able to find two functioning 16fps projectors locally...
> I got an email from someone encouraging me to instead use four projectors, as
> it would cut the screening time in half.
So...Why two
>> Related random Factory-al thought: How about a screening where two bowls of
>> pills are placed on a table to one side of the screen, one containing
>> Adderall tabs, the other Klonopin? Thus other audience members could see who
>> goes for which pills and when...
> Umthat would be a fed
Francisco Torres wrote:
>> I figured it couldn't be that bad, that I could surely draw inspiration from
>> artists with a lifetime of experience, and that it could enrich my practice
>> and inspire me.
>
> Do people really talk like THAT? Is this guy for real?
Hmmm. Maybe not. Could be a troll
> My concern in the matter of film stills is not making money, but having the
> films reasonably well represented.
This is kind of a moot point for images used to illustration a point in an
academic essay published in a journal or book. They will appear as a halftone
with a max screen of mayb
> 1. Is there a Mac equivalent of Any DVD?
Yes. It's called Fairmount. It was once available as a standalone, but is now
incorporated into Mac DVD Ripper Pro:
http://www.macdvdripperpro.com/ (not to be confused with MacX DVD Ripper Pro...)
> which allows you, for example, to play PAL DVDs withou
Yup. K3s are REALLY hard to crank.
> Has anyone developed a modification to get a better grip and/or leverage when
> cranking the K3??
I don't think a better grip would help much. It's basically a leverage problem.
The spring is stiff, and the little crank is close to the center axis: compare
Yes! That looks like EXACTLY what you need, and that's a good price for a
readymade box.
Connecting a 16mm projector with only a speaker jack to an audio system usually
requires TWO things, and the Rolls box offers both:
1. An attenuator circuit to drop the output level from the speaker and mat
> I have a relatively new Mac laptop and I've uninstalled/reinstalled both
> programs.
Be aware that every new release of the Mac OS breaks old reliable tools for
ripping clips from DVDs. MPEG Streamclip doesn't work past 10.6.
There are a few dozen or more similar software packages sold by a
> Some of Brakhage's animal studies might fit -- such as "The Domain of the
> Moment" or "The Presence"
Actually my first thought was that a lot of Brakhage could be appropriate –
c.f. the famous opening of 'Metaphors on Vision' Adventures in perception, the
un-tutored eye seeing as before the
Don't know if they've already been mentioned:
Showers: Eastern Promises, Starship Troopers, The Faculty
Baths: Goldfinger, Fatal Attraction, Slither
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Chuck Statler - 'Ain't We Havin' Fun'
definitely
Werner Herzog = 'How Much Wood Could A Woodchuck Chuck'
maybe
> Any suggestions on avant-garde/experimental films that deal with any aspects
> of farming/gardening/plant or animal agriculture?
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Making DIY Scoopic battery packs is pretty easy. I made a .pdf:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/pdfzutv84jcj370/scooby.pdf?dl=0
Original Scoopic packs used NiCad cells, which less run time than the newer
NiMH cells, and also have 'the memory effect' which NiMH doesn't. Even if you
revel an original
Check thrift stores that let you return electronics (usually just for store
credit) if it doesn't work: Salvation Army and Goodwill usually do. Thrift
stores are where all VHS decks go to die – and the stores just want to move
them, so they price the good ones the same as the crappy ones. For di
I have no experience with either of those shops, but I'll offer some general
comment on video gear service. Over the years, I had nothing but problems with
local, independent shops that were listed as service facilities for my
geographic area by the manufacturer. I resolved to only send repair w
I've been thinking, about the original query from John Muse in light of the
follow-up query about Michelson, doing some wild-ass speculating. Mark's post
(he certainly knows WAY more about this than I do) suggests my imaginings are
at least not grossly inconsistent with known facts. And my concl
> My notion of "including Ono and Ackerman [sic]" is, you're right, wrongheaded.
Sorry if the double-negative was unclear, but I was saying including those
makers is NOT wrongheaded at all. The gag (I was going for a bot o' irony) was
that your thinking that doing so 'went against the grain' was
Folks, Gene asked for 360° _tracking_ shots, not pans.
Is there an old DePalma film that DOESN'T have one?
I can't recall if any of the 'bullet time' slo-mo shots in the Matrix films, or
subsequent action films that aped that technique, went all the way around But
I'm guessing there are example
> if you are coming from a Mac, the media players are all Windows-formatted
Not true. I have an old Seagate FreeAgent Theater+ HD media player that reads
HFS+ (Mac) hard drives and thumb drives. It also goes directly from the end of
one file to the next alphabetically w/o putting any display on
> each segment has a slightly different length.
About ten years ago, I was showing (nostalgia) in class, pondering the duration
of the shots, looking at a watch occasionally as the edits went by, and I had a
kind of revelation: Each shot is a 100' load. I don't know if any one's written
about
I don't have the OP, only Scott's reply, so I'm not sure what setup is desired,
But, in general, getting audio from a Pageant into a line-level input on
recording gear is more than just connecting cables: you'll want an in-line
isolation transformer to avoid ground loop hum, and a simple attenua
> Empty city streets.
Force of Evil (Abraham Polonsky)
'I am Legend' and various similar post-apocalyptic films, e.g. '28 days later'.
Also maybe the current TV shows 'The Walking Dead' and 'Last Man on Earth'
(which i haven't seen…)
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> Those things have transformers inside them... not very good transformers, but
> transformers nonetheless.
Yeah, the quality varies. I've used some that worked fine. The thing is they're
not THAT cheap, you still might need an attenuator, and the Rolls direct box is
priced right at $25. I have
> I'm currently laying it out in 42 point Verdanna, keeping it under 40
> characters per line…
Standard printing and screen fonts, like Verdana, are not good for subs. The
strokes are too thin and the detail too fine to render well in video and
provide maximum readability. There are a number of
> If you are interested to see more, follow this link where I demonstrate the
> problem (password is 'loop').
There are probably folks here who know projectors better than I do, but I'll
offer my best guess fwiw in case you don't get a more expert response…
I suspect your Athena needs some fair
> But, isn't censorship also a serious issue? Haven't we been fighting for
> institutions, especially cultural institutions to commit themselves to stand
> up for and support artists who are being attacked? Remember the dust up over
> the anti-vax movie that tried to screen at Tribeca? The argum
Chris: Thanks for the clarification on Vaxxed/Tribeca. But it wasn't 'Tribeca
recognizing that it needed to firm up its institutional character and to
counter a reactionary push from powerful autocrats (De Niro)'. RDN bypassed the
programmers to put Vaxxed on the schedule, and he alone pulled it
> So do we use a very small dvd player or is there a way to play a looping
> digital file through a projector?
Your best bet is probably a mini 'digital media player', e.g.:
http://tinyurl.com/hf6a62b
http://tinyurl.com/zh7r7nw
There are various similar models on Amazon and eBay, between $25 and
IIRC, Scott and Beth B.'s punk films were shot on Super-8.
Reynolds and Jolley's Seven Days Til Sunday, The Drowning Room and also (I
think) burn were shot on Super-8
IIRC, Jem Cohen has done a lot with Super-8. (Lost Book Found ??)
Frameworker Ken Paul Rosenthal's Crooked Beauty is a fine exam
> I was thinking it would be an expensive process to remove digitally.
It's not necessarily _monetarily_ expensive. You can do it manually if you can
afford the time. Of course, you want as clean a transfer as possible, but there
are still likely to be some big nasty dust spot every X number of
I'm not an Avid expert, but I know they typically use proprietary codecs. What
container were they in? AVI?
If QT can't play the files, that could either be an issue with the codec per
se, or your Mac not being equipped with the extra widgets needed to handle the
headers of PC-based containers
The issue is not 'what looks good', but what's the best looking thing you can
send out to to an ad hoc venue like a festival — where they typically have
limited tech resources and clueless people manning the projections — with the
highest level of assurance that a) they can actually get the work
Fotopoulus?
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> Just want to see if anyone has an overall hatred for DLPs and their dreaded
> rainbow effect (which is probably more noticeable on some models than others.
YES! My 2 cents: DO NOT BUY A 1-CHIP DLP! They ALL make the moire effect, even
the ones that claim not to. Even the ones over $10,000. And
Scott:
I have to guess we're talking apples and oranges here, with your rental guy
comparing LCD to DLP in terms of big institutional quality units his firm rents
out, not the portable stuff in the price range Ekram is investigating. And this
comparison may be pitting older LCDs they've had in
Since so many Frameworkers continue to use photochemical film 'acquisition'
(sic), and distribution/exhibition opportunities are just getting ever more
digital, it would seem that telecine/scan techniques and services are ever more
important to our little community.
I think it would valuable fo
Does anyone have experience with, comments on "Ultra 16mm" which creates
wide-screen 16 by widening the gate to expose between the top and bottom of the
sprocket holes, thus:
1. The mount does not need to be recentered.
2. Pretty much any 16mm lens should cover.
3. The footage can be used as regu
I've transplanted tape innards into a different shell, and also just replaced
the door. I can't remember if I've done either with mini-DV though. I just
looked at a tape, and it's not held together by screws, and it's not obvious
how to take it apart. It looks like there are 4 holes on the botto
> What else could we shown in a Cat Film Fest?
As Ekrem mentioned, there's Cat Cradle and Fuses. Dunno if the amount of
kitteh-kontent is high enough for a feline fest, but the presence of the
pussy... er, scratch that [Meow!] I mean the context of the cat, is the
unraveling intertextual ball o
Well, even though NFL Films has gone digital, and will probably close their lab
after their current supply of stock runs out, they know the value of their
massive archive of 16mm footage, and the archival value of photochemical film.
I can't see them committing that history to any conversion to
Agree with Fred about "this sort of request,” and that the sequence from The
End is ideal for it anyway… ;-)
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Narrative:
'The Last Wave', Peter Weir
Experimental:
'Remedial Reading Comprehension', George Landow aka Owen Land
‘The Doctor’s Dream’, Ken Jacobs
'Jack's Dream,’ Joseph Cornell
'Take the 5:10 to Dreamland’, Bruce Conner
Among the many Brakhages that fit 'Anticipation of the Night’, 'The Way t
Fake docs like 'No Lies' and 'Daughter Rite' don’t really question the concept
of truth in any profound way. They are also genre specific to Cinema Verite. If
anything, the problem with Daubghter Rite is that the gimmick of the fakery
subverts the theme more than it deepens it.
So you can stag
It might help if you could be more specific about any difference between your
concept of “participation” and the tradition of “first-person camera” or
“subjective camera”. Such a technique implies some agent, represented by the
camera that does in some sense "participate in the actions depicted,
> could you suggest voice-over films that are a response to specific places or
> have a way of telling that describes a place or a situation in concrete terms.
I don’t know about “concrete”, but the first thought that comes to mind re:
"voice-over films that are a response to specific places” is
I’d take Jeff’s analysis as definitive, because Jeff... But fwiw I’ll add a wee
bit of possible support…
It’s almost certainly not Super-8. As Jeff notes, that’s a Canon video zoom
lens in the manhole photos. That would have matched optically with the pickup
tube diameters of early portable BW
Hello Kate:
If the prescription is: moving image work, short, meditative,
poetic/experimental, viewable online, aesthetically accessible to high school
kids, you’ve filtered the results down to little-or-nothing before you get to
queer and/or POC.
Most of the ‘meditative' works I can think of
Gene:
The common words closest to the typical academic use of “affect” would be
“feeling” or “emotion”.
It’s a common term in psychology. The APA defines it:
> n. any experience of feeling or emotion, ranging from suffering to elation,
> from the simplest to the most complex sensations of fee
Hey Myron:
Did they (whoever they are) tell you which five seconds they want to license?
If so, can you describe that content for us? (I’m quite curious..)
I shall attempt to address the copyright questions fwiw:
(Necessary disclaimer: while I have studied copyright issues, I am not a lawyer)
I
> I think we should all start calling it the Trump Virus.
It already has a name. I believe it’s covfefe-19.
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Hi George:
I have a fairly rare bird I’m willing to sell: a spring drive Beaulieu R16.
I’m posting this to the list to give Jeff a chance to crap on it’s French
idiosyncracies. ;-) Perhaps he will go easy on me/it as we are brothers in the
Church of the 10mm Switar?? Cheers to Scott for joinin
> The problem is that there aren't many people who can service the things any
> longer…
This has been a huge issue in the 16mm world for decades now. Since there does
seem to be continuing interest in the medium among ongoing generations of
artists, I wonder what we can do to keep the technolog
I would say that “roll” refers to the film itself, “spool” and “reel” refer to
objects the film is wound onto, each of which have sides — as opposed to
“cores” which do not — and are sized by their capacity, rather than diameter as
is the case with audiotape reels. E.g. a standard small audio re
Gene:
When you say “mythic shot of protagonist walking” my first thought is Woody
Guthrie walking through the migrant camp in “Bound for Glory”. But this may not
fit what you’re thinking of as it’s a long take rather than a montage, and the
camera is following the protagonist so we don’t see hi
Hey, does anyone here still have a use for open reel audio tape?
If not some form of actual analog art recording, maybe some kind of sculptural
thing, or a hipster method for tying up git packages… or something…
I’m clearing out some storage and I’ve got 28 7” reels. 17 un-opened boxes of
Scotc
If you ask because you just don’t have a backwind key, they’re very easy to
make. Just go to a hardware store and look for what iirc are called tension
pins, cylindirical pins with a slot down the length. One size of these things,
around ¼” iirc, fits perfectly into the drive socket on a Bolex.
> I'm writing about the use of 16mm in experimental filmmaking of the 1970s and
> am looking for texts that deal with the history of film technology, scholarly
> sources that look, for example, at the emergence of 16mm as an
> amateur/documentary/artists' medium.
Hmm. If we distinguish 'amateu
> the vast majority of artists working in 16mm from the '40s through the '60s
> did in fact use Kodachrome and Ektachrome. Color negative didn't even exist
> in 16mm until 1964, and very few "experimental filmmakers" used it much until
> the later '70s or even early '80s.
'Amateur' making was a
> For those of you who might still be running OSX 10.6.8 on a Mac (for FCP
> editing, for example).
I’d heard that FCP 7 has ‘issues’ past 10.6.8, but also that it works fine on
Yosemite (10.10.5). I don’t do mobile, so I don’t care about iOS, but I’m
curious if Adam or others have info on how
Excellent advice from Scott. The heat is just a drying time aid. Less expensive
glue splicers don’t have heaters. Glue splicing is all about scraping
technique, good cement, and technique in applying the cement properly. It takes
some practice to do it right, so newbies should experiment on outs
> I keep encountering auto-load projectors in 16mm and S8 mm that don't load
> for me. You push down the thingie at the top of the threading pattern to
> start auto-loading but when the film feeds in it goes straight up after the
> first curve without entering the gate. Do these projectors have
> The first film I'm thinking of is: Xmas on earth by Barbara Rubin ( 1963)
It’s a great piece, not really a ‘film’ but a two-projector performance…
But it’s not really about Christmas, and it might not be the best choice for
"an audience which will include people who have little to no experie
> Mala Leche (2003) by Naomi Uman
'Mala Leche' is a racist/classist/xenophobic POS about a Mexican immigrant
family living in a slum in California.
The film about farming is just ‘Leche’ (1998) a totally romanticized vision of
life on a rural Mexican dairy farm, then the home of the family lat
> You could adapt a barrel from a 16mm format to the 35mm format lens. If fits
> perfectly in my Bell and Howell 16mm projector.
B+H barrels are a lot wider than Eiki barrels, so that might not work for the
Eiki.
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The Man Who Invented Gold; Christopher Maclaine
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> I would get a projector first and get the lens for the projector
I would, too. But Benj wants a projector that will accommodate his looper, and
that may limit his choices.
> How does putting a magnifying element in front of a 50mm lens this compare
> optically to using a dedicated WA project
> I wonder if there is any alternative to it at a decent price (under 10 K?)
Did you really mean “under $10,000”?
Well, there’s the MovieStuff Retro, $4.500:
http://moviestuff.tv/moviestuff_home.html
Mr. MovieStuff, Roger Evans, used to make film scanners based on projector
mechanisms, probabl
I found the instructions for older models on the MovieStuff site. Roger Evans
had produced three different lines based on Eiki projector mechanism before
going exclusively to the “made totally from scratch” ‘Retro' units.
The earliest and simplest of these ran at standard projector speed, with
Older (older than 2012, that is) LCD projectors often had problems with
monochrome images… But with a 2012 Epson and the problem you describe, my guess
is that it needs service. Does it look OK with a cool image? (If you look
carefully can you see any color issues on the edges?) Does you host ha
> If you're seeing lines on the edges of the frame, I'd wonder also if the
> blacks aren't really very black at all.
Careful there, though, Scott. You’re not going to get black blacks out of any
brand new ‘affordable’ video projector.
I have an Epson VS335W, which I bought in 2014 (~$525 at th
A more general way of framing the issue is that moving pictures have moved
toward ephemera, or, in a more historical vocabulary a spreading dominance of
’television'. How else could we explain the low adoption of Blu-Ray among both
individuals and institutions? HD-DVD is long dead, Blu-Ray plate
Got a picture of the receptacle on the projector?
> If anyone has any suggestions about where I could find some for a reasonable
> price, they would be much appreciated. Or even advice about the part name or
> number!
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i guess I’m the first to mention the obvious: Michael Snow, "Rameau's Nephew by
Diderot"
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I’m more techy-geeky than most. I once tried to get an old pageant arc
projector going in an effort to get a brighter image in our schoolo auditorium,
but gave up. The technology is not really suitable for infrequent use sans tech
support: there’s that massive old-school power supply driving a s
Sorry Roger. Yes, yes, yes. TBTX Dance is PERFECT (maybe essential?) for the
theme of optical sound produced by non-traditional means, and unique afaik in
the use of laser printing. It’s also just a cool film, and the prefect (short)
length for a program that seeks to survey and explore a vasrie
I know the request is for features, [just about everything by David Lynch, but
especially Eraserhead and Mulholland Drive] but there’s lots of recent TV that
goes into “inner states of mind” with mentally ill protagonists: including
‘River' [UK] about a haunted, hallucinating detective, the near
On the versions of the dogleg Berthiot I’ve used, you can change the
orientation of the finder by unscrewing a ring at the rear of the barrel. Then
the barrel detatches from the C-Mount, and can be re-positioned, either freely
or to a different position fixed by tabs and slots, depending on the
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