Re: [SMW-devel] Modern chat solution as alternative to IRC?

2017-07-27 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, The history log is not down, but it moved, to this URL: http://bots.wmflabs.org/~wm-bot/logs/%23semantic-mediawiki/ Hopefully someone can change the URL in the message - it has been incorrect for years now, which I'm sure has caused a lot of confusion. I have no strong opinion on the IRC/Gi

Re: [SMW-devel] Getting the html code of a wiki page in a maintenance script through the use of Parser.php

2016-12-15 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Viktor, Someone may answer your question here, but if not, I would suggest writing the mediawiki-l mailing list instead, since it seems to just be a core MediaWiki question. -Yaron On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 6:51 AM, Viktor wrote: > Dear developers, > > > I’m having problems getting the correc

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] SRF: Timeline and Histopedia

2016-10-05 Thread Yaron Koren
lay of pictures on the timeline, > which of course is also nice to have. > > cheers, > Bernhard > > - Am 4. Okt 2016 um 15:09 schrieb Yaron Koren : > > > Hi Bernhard, > > Could you enumerate what features you would ideally like to see in a > timeline > >

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] SRF: Timeline and Histopedia

2016-10-04 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Bernhard, Could you enumerate what features you would ideally like to see in a timeline format? The Exhibit Timeline library, which is used by SMW (and, let me note, by Cargo as well), is indeed old and poorly-maintained, but it still works fine. I'm guessing that you would also prefer the Hist

Re: [SMW-devel] ApprovedRevs + SMW

2016-05-10 Thread Yaron Koren
>> ApprovedRevsHooks::updateLinksAfterEdit > >> > >> properly sends empty $text to LinksUpdate, however in > >> > >> ApprovedRevsHooks::setSearchText > >> > >> it retrieves actual article text by hitting > >> > >> $revi

Re: [SMW-devel] ApprovedRevs + SMW

2016-04-29 Thread Yaron Koren
That's certainly not intended behavior. Is the page displaying correctly, i.e. blank? And can you find by searching on its contents from Special:Search? (Hopefully not.) Also, I'd recommend upgrading to the latest Approved Revs version, 0.7.1 - who knows, that might be a bug that got fixed. On Fr

Re: [SMW-devel] Set SMW property in extension

2015-10-09 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, > for it, but I don't want to scare anyone off this list.) > > I'm not sure I understand the connotation of your comment. I meant that I don't want people in general to worry that their questions are too technical for this list - especially for SMW-related extensions not found on GitHub, for

Re: [SMW-devel] Set SMW property in extension

2015-10-09 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, James - note that this is the SMW developers mailing list; I don't think that question is too technical for here. (GitHub might be the better place for it, but I don't want to scare anyone off this list.) -Yaron On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 8:26 AM, James HK wrote: > Hi, > > Please open an issue

[SMW-devel] Fwd: [MediaWiki-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Join the Wikimedia Developer Summit 2016

2015-09-15 Thread Yaron Koren
Seems pretty interesting... I assume this will focus mostly on core MediaWiki and WMF software like VisualEditor and Flow, but apparently not exclusively. -Yaron -- Forwarded message -- From: Quim Gil Date: Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 7:52 AM Subject: [MediaWiki-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Joi

Re: [SMW-devel] Set a SMW property programmatically in PHP?

2015-06-29 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Jason, If you're talking about making a change to the semantic data of a page that is not reflected in that page's wikitext, that sounds like a bad idea - the new data would be removed as soon as the page was edited and saved again. -Yaron On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Jason Ji wrote: >

Re: [SMW-devel] SemanticForms - formredlink - "link text" ignored when target exists

2015-06-01 Thread Yaron Koren
uot;link text" parameter would certainly help me. And I think it > is all in all a better solution than to silently ignore the link text > when a page exists as that is surprising (and made me think it's a bug). > > Greetings > Hermann > > On 05/29/2015 05:53 PM, Yar

Re: [SMW-devel] SemanticForms - formredlink - "link text" ignored when target exists

2015-05-29 Thread Yaron Koren
rn the tables: What's the use case for the way it is right now? > The information about the existence of the page the link points to is > already encoded in the colour of the link, isn't it? > > Greetings > Hermann > > On 05/29/2015 12:49 AM, Yaron Koren wrote: >

Re: [SMW-devel] SemanticForms - formredlink - "link text" ignored when target exists

2015-05-28 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Hermann, That was done on purpose - the idea was that #formredlink has two different behaviors, depending on whether or not the page in question exists. If it doesn't, then of course you see a red link, pointing to a form, with text that possibly looks like "Create this page". If it does, then

Re: [SMW-devel] cargo's page values link

2015-04-06 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, On Mon, Apr 6, 2015 at 5:40 AM, Markus Krötzsch < mar...@semantic-mediawiki.org> wrote: > On 06.04.2015 03:57, Yaron Koren wrote: > >> I'm guessing that it's possible, yes. I hadn't really considered that >> possibility, though there certainly is

Re: [SMW-devel] cargo's page values link

2015-04-05 Thread Yaron Koren
enabled. Not that that's necessarily a reason for doing the same thing with Cargo. On Fri, Apr 3, 2015 at 4:22 PM, John McClure wrote: > It would be nice if it only showed on pages for which it applies - is > that possible? > > > On 4/3/2015 1:20 PM, Yaron Koren wrote: >

Re: [SMW-devel] cargo's page values link

2015-04-03 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, Er... no? I didn't think it was a big deal; it's an exact analogue of SMW's "browse properties" link. -Yaron Is it necessary that Cargo clutter all pages in a wiki with a "page values" link? -- thanks/john skype:hypergrove ---

Re: [SMW-devel] cargo syntax

2015-03-31 Thread Yaron Koren
they're unconventional.) > So a simple {{#cargo_declare: tablename}} would seem to be an easy > solution. > thanks/john > > > On 3/31/2015 12:46 PM, Yaron Koren wrote: > > Actually, #cargo_declare follows the standard syntax for MediaWiki parser > functions - usuall

Re: [SMW-devel] cargo syntax

2015-03-31 Thread Yaron Koren
Actually, #cargo_declare follows the standard syntax for MediaWiki parser functions - usually, either all the parameters are named, or none of them are. #ask is an exception, and #subobject is the very rare exception where the first parameter is often blank (i.e., your last example). -Yaron On Tu

Re: [SMW-devel] cargo issues

2015-03-31 Thread Yaron Koren
> If any, that is it doesn't matter which, then is this constraint you're > imposing actually necessary? > thanks > > On 3/31/2015 11:00 AM, Yaron Koren wrote: > > Oh, I missed your other question - Cargo is built around templates; they > are responsible for stor

Re: [SMW-devel] cargo issues

2015-03-31 Thread Yaron Koren
Oh, I missed your other question - Cargo is built around templates; they are responsible for storing data, so it made sense to put both the table declaration and the table storage go into the template page. On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:47 PM, Yaron Koren wrote: > Hi John, > > How does th

Re: [SMW-devel] cargo issues

2015-03-31 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi John, How does the absence of the main MediaWiki DB prefix affect the running of the wiki farm - are you using one database for all the wikis, with a different table prefix for each? And why do you want leading underscores in Cargo table names? -Yaron On Tue, Mar 31, 2015 at 1:17 PM, John Mc

Re: [SMW-devel] queryformlink, input type

2015-03-26 Thread Yaron Koren
; First I tried the "suggested" way using {{{standard input|cancel}}} but > when I inserted it to the form, it did not make any changes, neither the > {{{standard input|changes}}} . Do I need to change other things on the > form to make it work? Or I completely misunderstand some

Re: [SMW-devel] queryformlink, input type

2015-03-26 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Erika, When you use "link type=button", it creates a tag within the HTML, and I'm guessing that it in some way conflicts with the overall tag of the query form. I don't know why you're linking to a query form from within a query form, but I guess that's a separate issue. -Yaron On Thu, Mar

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Sorting results

2015-03-20 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Bernhard, Assuming that there's a standard naming system to this set of pages, i.e. it's always "[number] [other stuff]", one possibility is to have the template use #explode to get the number, then store that separately with a property of type "Number". Then you could sort on that property. -

Re: [SMW-devel] Hair-pulling Cargo Use Case?

2015-01-16 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi John, I'm not going to answer the use case question, since I'm not sure that any good can come of answering it. :) If you want to provide your own answer to the question, that's fine. As for Wikibase, there's no shared code between Cargo between Wikibase; and there's no relationship between th

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] D3.js

2014-12-02 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Bernhard, Wow, that's pretty neat! It appears that this is using a JavaScript library called Keshif, which in turn uses D3.js: http://keshif.me/ And the guy whose instance you linked to seems to be one of the people behind the project. Any thoughts by anyone on this interface versus that of

Re: [SMW-devel] Add Another stopped working

2014-11-13 Thread Yaron Koren
t; load.php, jQuery.valHooks.button.set, referring to ret.nodeValue being > null and on the left side of an assignment. > > Sal > -- > From: Yaron Koren > Sent: ‎11/‎13/‎2014 10:45 AM > To: Sal Quintanilla > Cc: Semantic MediaWiki developers >

Re: [SMW-devel] Add Another stopped working

2014-11-13 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Sal, When the "Add another" button works, it's usually a sign that there's some other, unrelated Javascript error that happened. Can you look in the Javascript console, if you know how to do that, and see if there are any error messages there? -Yaron On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:18 AM, Sal Quin

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] smw.referata.org vs. smw.org (Was: Exclude specific pages from query or #Concept?)

2014-11-10 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, There's actually not that much overlap between smw.referata.com and semantic-mediawiki.org at the moment. smw.referata.com contains pages on the following: - People who use or develop SMW - Companies that use or work with SMW - Sites that use SMW - Events that have an SMW component - Software

Re: [SMW-devel] [SF] Embedded Special:RunQuery creates strange charaters

2014-10-08 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, Just to clarify, this is not related to the TreeAndMenu extension, which is not installed on Referata. Rather, the issue is that there was a change in the Semantic Forms code around (I think) six months ago, that changed the way forms were parsed - it improved some things, but had the unfortun

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] MediaWiki Job queue problem

2014-09-24 Thread Yaron Koren
gt; > In case this solves the issue, I sincerely hope there is a different > way (a more standard way) to reset the "job_attempts" field other than > by using a SQL statement to manipulate the job table. > > Cheers > > On 9/25/14, Yaron Koren wrote: > > Hi, >

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] MediaWiki Job queue problem

2014-09-24 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, I believe the issue is the "job_attempts" field in the "job" table. I believe each job is only attempted a certain number of times before MediaWiki basically just gives up and ignores it. My guess is that that column is greater than 0 for all the rows in the table; I think if you just go into

Re: [SMW-devel] Accessing Semantic Forms fields from within form input

2014-07-29 Thread Yaron Koren
t; Hi! > This part I know. But I meant the javascript side - how the current value > is loaded there? Is there a method that allows me to retrieve the current > template field value whil I'm in js? > > - > Yury Katkov > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Yaron Kore

Re: [SMW-devel] Accessing Semantic Forms fields from within form input

2014-07-29 Thread Yaron Koren
> Yury Katkov > > > On Wed, Jul 23, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Yaron Koren wrote: > >> Hi Yury, >> >> Oh... that's a lot of files! Yes, that kind of autocomplatetion might >> require some kind of custom Javascript solution. Although, if the goal is >>

Re: [SMW-devel] Accessing Semantic Forms fields from within form input

2014-07-22 Thread Yaron Koren
the > semantic form when we put some data in the form and sending the ajax call > to an api with our current field values as the parameters. > > for now I will try to solve this with javascript extension that listens > the blur() action and the REST-API that is responsible for de

Re: [SMW-devel] Accessing Semantic Forms fields from within form input

2014-07-22 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Yury, (First, it doesn't matter that much, but this question should probably have been sent to the SMW users list.) You didn't explicitly say it, but I'm guessing that (a) the set of file names to be autocompleted on is all the files contained in that file server, and (b) this information is n

Re: [SMW-devel] usage of values from URL

2014-07-21 Thread Yaron Koren
ic and I'm > totally satisfied. > > - > Yury Katkov > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Yaron Koren wrote: > >> Oops, sorry, you're right - it's the string "new" in the URL that you >> should replace with "". >>

Re: [SMW-devel] usage of values from URL

2014-07-21 Thread Yaron Koren
t be the issue. > > I don't think I should... I don't need any parameters, try to click on the > link - it produces perfect results. > > - > Yury Katkov > > > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 4:07 PM, Yaron Koren wrote: > >> Hi Yury, >> >> Yo

Re: [SMW-devel] usage of values from URL

2014-07-21 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Yury, You should replace "substr" in that URL with "" - that might just be the issue. However, I should note that we're currently, as part of Jatin Mehta's Google Summer of Code project on SF autocompletion, working on improving autocompletion on external values. Right now the setup is quite l

Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?

2014-07-18 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi James, > I'm not a huge fan of such interdependencies (and AdminLinks is no exception). This seems like the most overriding of your objections. Could you elaborate on it? -- Want fast and easy access to all the code in

Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?

2014-07-18 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, Well, it depends on what you mean by "broken". From my perspective, as long as the code doesn't crash SMW's regular functionality, it's good enough. If there's a problem with the Site Settings functionality in SMW - even a severe problem - you could just redirect it as a Site Settings issue, w

Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?

2014-07-16 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Jeroen, Unfortunately, there isn't yet a public example of an extension that hooks into Site Settings - if this potential code gets into SMW, SMW could become the first. But the basic idea is that the class would contain various static methods, each of which was called by a different Site Setti

Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?

2014-07-16 Thread Yaron Koren
wrote: > On 7/15/2014 7:25 PM, Yaron Koren wrote: > > Semantic MediaWiki already hooks into the first two: Admin Links via a > function, and Page Schemas with a class. > > > Hi Yaron - What function/class are those. Also, i happened to review PS > ext

Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?

2014-07-16 Thread Yaron Koren
a regular basis - but that of course is a matter of opinion. Like with any software, there's always room for improvement. -Yaron On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Yury Katkov wrote: > Hi! > > > On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 3:37 PM, Yaron Koren wrote: > >> Hi Yury, &g

Re: [SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?

2014-07-16 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Yury, On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 1:32 AM, Yury Katkov wrote: > Hi Yaron! > > I think that for SiteSettings this patch could make sense although I'm > strongly against such interdependencies between extensions (after trying to > contribute to PageSchemas) > Could you expand on that? > > Is Adm

[SMW-devel] Adding Site Settings support to SMW?

2014-07-15 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, There are three extensions of mine that take a similar approach, where they provide a generic framework and other extensions add their own specific functionality in via hooks: Admin Links, Page Schemas and Site Settings. Semantic MediaWiki already hooks into the first two: Admin Links via a fu

Re: [SMW-devel] Game wikis

2014-07-11 Thread Yaron Koren
I can > think of. At some point, SemanticMediaWiki should put semantics INTO > mediawiki, not just extract semantic properties from mediawiki pages. We > seem prevented though by a common distaste to modify mediawiki core and > hence, paralyzed. > > best/john > > On 7/

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Namespaces

2014-07-09 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Peter, On Wed, Jul 9, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Peter Brooks wrote: > I'm trying to think about this in a more semantic way. > > Surely, part of the point of semantics is to allow rules to be governed by > them. > > If I could create a property, say '[[page_visibility::group_X]]' then > it would make

Re: [SMW-devel] Rating system

2014-05-16 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Ben, It's not clear to me that this would require any development work. It seems to me that you could have an approach like the following: - Have a separate page for each vote; it could be structured as a subpage of the user page, or a subpage of the canyon page, or something else - so it coul

Re: [SMW-devel] Looking for help with developing SMW customizations

2014-05-02 Thread Yaron Koren
ds a few tweak, for example ability to > work with different namespaces. > > On the more trivial end is the need to add or edit a few more > properties, templates and forms to the wiki. > > There also improvements needed to the development/deployment process - > we are running d

Re: [SMW-devel] Looking for help with developing SMW customizations

2014-05-02 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Lech, Since we're already on the subject, would you be willing to share what kind of customizations you'd like to do? It may be helpful for you, and for everyone else, to discuss your ideas here before getting heavily into code development. As noted in the SMW FAQ [1], "it could be that such a

Re: [SMW-devel] Google Summer of Code: SMW projects wanted - Properties Edit-Tables

2014-02-11 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, I agree that SMW probably couldn't be used by itself for this, and that Semantic Forms makes more sense. Thankfully, though, I don't need to create a proof of concept for this opinion, because one already exists. :) In 2011, Christoph Tempich created this demo, showing how Semantic Forms - and

[SMW-devel] Google Summer of Code: SMW projects wanted

2014-02-11 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi everyone, The Google Summer of Code process has already begun. SMW projects will once again be done via the Wikimedia Foundation (that is, we're not trying to apply separately, unlike in some previous years). This year the GSoC schedule is earlier than I think it's ever been - the list of accep

Re: [SMW-devel] Allowing for disabling SMW and other Composer-installed extensions

2014-01-27 Thread Yaron Koren
tch is needed to turn off > composer so that wikifarm code can load extensions in the conventional way. > If I missed something, please correct! Thanks/john > > On 1/27/2014 6:45 AM, Yaron Koren wrote: > > Hi, > > There was a thread about a week ago on the semediawiki-user

[SMW-devel] Allowing for disabling SMW and other Composer-installed extensions

2014-01-27 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, There was a thread about a week ago on the semediawiki-user mailing list, called "Howto install SMW using git?", that became a discussion about a number of things, including why there should be a way to disable extensions installed via Composer. I suggested using one or more global variables f

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW no longer works with a manual LinksUpdate call?

2014-01-20 Thread Yaron Koren
.com/SemanticMediaWiki/SemanticMediaWiki/blob/master/includes/hooks/LinksUpdateConstructed.php > > Cheers > > On 1/20/14, Yaron Koren wrote: > > Hi, > > > > The Approved Revs extension no longer seems to work with Semantic > MediaWiki > > 1.9 - someone pointed

[SMW-devel] SMW no longer works with a manual LinksUpdate call?

2014-01-19 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, The Approved Revs extension no longer seems to work with Semantic MediaWiki 1.9 - someone pointed that out on the mailing list a few months ago, and I finally tested it out and confirmed the problem. Basically, when an administrator, using AR, approves some revision of a page, the AR code call

Re: [SMW-devel] Making SMW semver.org compliant

2014-01-17 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, Markus - are you suggesting retroactively referring to, say, version 1.5.1 as version 5.1 - with a corresponding change to all the documentation, etc.? Or just jumping straight from version 1.9 to version 10.0? I'm assuming the latter, but in either case that seems like a bad idea, that will i

Re: [SMW-devel] Making SMW semver.org compliant

2014-01-16 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, It sounds like your real question is, "Shouldn't we have changed to 2.0 already?" :) I don't know the answer to that, but I can't imagine anyone would object to increasing the version number to 2.0, 3.0 etc. if/when it makes sense to do that. (I don't think avoiding a 1.10, 1.11 etc. is by it

Re: [SMW-devel] Form edit with multiple templates limit

2014-01-10 Thread Yaron Koren
umber of fields > whose value can be passed on submission. But so far, I haven’t been able > to find the setting that could help me change that limit. If you’ve got > any more hints you can suggest on what I should be looking for, I’d > appreciate it. > > > > Thanks. Happ

Re: [SMW-devel] Form edit with multiple templates limit

2013-12-17 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Sal, A few variations on this question have come up on the mailing lists recently. SF itself doesn't impose any limits - but PHP and/or Javascript have their own natural limits, PHP by limiting the number of fields whose value can be passed when the form is submitted, and Javascript by slowing

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Annotating in SMW

2013-12-17 Thread Yaron Koren
you - > > I don't yet see the usecase where it would be useful to have > > semantified inline comments. Or any comments and discussions, for > > that matter. > > > > > > - > > Yury Katkov, WikiVote > > > > > > > > > &

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Annotating in SMW

2013-12-17 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Bernhard, This seems like a case of the "when you have a hammer, everything looks like a nail" principle. :) If the extension used - whether it's Annotator or anything else - is keeping annotation information, it's presumably using one or more of its own database tables to do that. And so the m

Re: [SMW-devel] Offline Semantic Forms

2013-11-26 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Benedikt, It could be that there's some wording confusion: by "offline", did you really just mean "private"? It sounds like what you're talking about is people submitting data, via the internet/web, that then gets put into an external server - only one that requires a password to access; as opp

Re: [SMW-devel] Error in form editing when coordinates are blank

2013-11-25 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Benjamin, I, too, have experienced this problem, on a wiki that uses Semantic Maps 2.0. However, it doesn't happen on semantic-mediawiki.org, which is running Semantic Maps 3.0 alpha. Thus, I assume the bug has been fixed already (although on a version that hasn't yet been officially released).

Re: [SMW-devel] Offline Semantic Forms

2013-11-22 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Benedikt, I've definitely thought about offline form and data stuff, but I don't quite understand your use case: - Would the offline form be just a copy of an online form? If so, doesn't that mean that sensitive patient data *can* get put on the wiki? - If a physician stores data offline, can

Re: [SMW-devel] Calendar help

2013-11-21 Thread Yaron Koren
{{#ask: > [[Category:Event]] > |?has Event > |?Has Category > |format=calendar > |color=red > }} > > Still nothing displays on the calendar. > > > And my info line to this > > {{{info|page name= number;start=001> }}} > > This works. >

Re: [SMW-devel] Calendar help

2013-11-21 Thread Yaron Koren
{#ask: > [[Category:Event]] > [[Was published on::>{{#calendarstartdate:}}]] > [[Was published on::<{{#calendarenddate:}}]] > |? Was published on > |format=calendar > |color=red > }} > > > Thanks for the help. > > Wade > > > From:

Re: [SMW-devel] Calendar help

2013-11-20 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Wade, That doesn't sound like a calendar question, actually. :) I think the issue is that, if you're using #formlink and not #forminput, you need to set a "page name" formula for the form: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Semantic_Forms/Linking_to_forms#The_one-step_process -Yaron O

Re: [SMW-devel] Subsection headings cripple content parsing?

2013-11-20 Thread Yaron Koren
changes on my wiki and look > forward to finding out whether the subsection fix would be easy. If it > isn't, I'll see if I can dig in to changing it myself. Does SF have a bug > reporting system for me to list this bug in? > > Thanks once more for all the responses! >

Re: [SMW-devel] Subsection headings cripple content parsing?

2013-11-20 Thread Yaron Koren
hand, wouldn't it be possible > to sanitize and desanitize the content? Or do extensions dynamically > generate wiki code rather than HTML code? (I'm not familiar with > MediaWiki's architecture) > > Thanks again! > --Ben > > > On Wed, Nov 20, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Y

Re: [SMW-devel] Subsection headings cripple content parsing?

2013-11-20 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Ben, Wow, great! I believe this is the first real-world usage that I've seen of the new "section" feature in Semantic Forms. (It was added in version 2.6, about a month ago.) Unfortunately, it's accompanied by the first-ever bug report. :) Your diagnosis is correct - the subsections within that

Re: [SMW-devel] OWA problem?

2013-11-19 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi John, I just wanted to respond to one part: > Surely you're aware the community so highly esteems your > contributions to OWL specifications, that it has a directly consequent, > unflinching & justifiable belief that SMW is a /faithful RDF > implementation/. I don't believe this is true. T

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Videos and slides for the first SMWCon day

2013-11-19 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, On Tue, Nov 19, 2013 at 6:51 AM, Yury Katkov wrote: > Hi everyone! > > The first day of the conference is online! You can watch the videos > and slides for every one of the talks. > > That's great! The videos look good. > > I especially recommend you to watch the following talks: > 1) If y

Re: [SMW-devel] ajax=true - thinking about new global parameter for all Result Formats

2013-11-17 Thread Yaron Koren
I meant "why bother" instead of "why both" before, by the way. -- DreamFactory - Open Source REST & JSON Services for HTML5 & Native Apps OAuth, Users, Roles, SQL, NoSQL, BLOB Storage and External API Access Free app hostin

Re: [SMW-devel] ajax=true - thinking about new global parameter for all Result Formats

2013-11-17 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, Before we get too deep into the technical side of things, let me take a step back: Ajax, for those who don't know, is a technology where parts of the page can be modified, based on new data from the server, without needing to refresh the whole page. As far as I know, there are two advantages

Re: [SMW-devel] OWA problem?

2013-11-11 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi John, MediaWiki is a CMS, and so is MW + SMW - first and foremost, it's a way to manage content. Also, please keep the discussion civil - even if you think someone's being uncivil to you, the best approach is to de-escalate and focus on the issues. -Yaron On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 1:36 PM, Jo

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed

2013-11-06 Thread Yaron Koren
le for this. > > What's more, they just closed the SMW Stockholm group, by unspecifically > referring to http://help.meetup.com/customer/portal/articles/865536 :( > > // Samuel > > > On 2013-11-06 17:03, Yaron Koren wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW Seattle meetup group formed

2013-11-06 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, I'm not aware of meetup.com being used for conferences and the like. On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 9:47 AM, Yury Katkov wrote: > And the other question: we've thought to use Meetup.com for getting > more people for the conference. Is the tool good for this, can guys > from SMWCon Spring 2014 use

Re: [SMW-devel] Initial GitHub support arrived!

2013-11-04 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Andru, Since you mentioned Semantic Forms - I have no plans to move over, or copy, SF or any of my other extensions to GitHub, unless it first happens for SMW and/or other extensions and there's a widespread consensus that it's the right thing to do. I'm what you might call a "late adopter" as

[SMW-devel] Wikimedia Foundation accepted to Google Code-In

2013-11-01 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi everyone, If you don't know about "Google Code-In", it's a spinoff project of the Google Summer of Code, where high school students (instead of college students) work on a bunch of small several-hour tasks (instead of one large project). The Wikimedia Foundation applied to be a mentoring organi

Re: [SMW-devel] Query result rewrite

2013-10-24 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, Well, you make a strong case. And no, I think doing a result format makes a lot of sense. Good luck! -Yaron On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 10:17 PM, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > The point of this workshop is not to teach people SMW interfaces. The > amount of ground that can be covered in a o

Re: [SMW-devel] Query result rewrite

2013-10-24 Thread Yaron Koren
Well, yes, that's what I meant - though I guess it depends on (a) how likely this new code is to stay in SMW in its current form, (b) when it would be released as part of a stable version, and (c) how different this new interface is from the current one. But my vote would still be to teach the old

Re: [SMW-devel] Query result rewrite

2013-10-24 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, It's great that you're working to improve the code, but isn't it weird to teach people how to use an interface that doesn't exist yet? If they go to create a new result format after the tutorial, won't their newfound knowledge be (for the moment) useless? -Yaron On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 6:30

Re: [SMW-devel] Specific questions | Re: Current status and future plans of (REST) API:s and import in SMW?

2013-10-22 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Samuel, Sorry that I'm not answering any of your questions, but I wanted to clarify something. My understanding of RDFIO is as follows: it takes in triples that might look like: "Joe Average" foaf:phone 123-4567 For such a triple, it would then find the page on the wiki called "Joe Average",

Re: [SMW-devel] Current status and future plans of (REST) API:s and import in SMW?

2013-10-21 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Samuel, Perhaps a bit of background information would be helpful. What does RDFIO do? What, if anything, do you want it do further? What did SMWWriter do? How do POM/WOM fit into this whole thing? And how does this relate to the RDF triplestore functionality that SMW now has? -Yaron On Mon,

Re: [SMW-devel] Gerrit #84744: Disable type enforcement for properties with names equal to type names

2013-10-01 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Vitaliy, I'm not a core SMW developer, so there's not much I can do on this issue; but maybe there are some SMW developers reading this, who can at least express an opinion on the subject. Anyone? On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:37 PM, wrote: > I agree with you here. I don't think backwards compat

Re: [SMW-devel] Gerrit #84744: Disable type enforcement for properties with names equal to type names

2013-09-23 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Vitaliy, I agree with you here. I don't think backwards compatibility is a compelling reason to keep the property-name-dictates-type feature. I don't believe there are that many wikis that have such a property defined without an associated type - and conversely, we know of a few wikis where thi

Re: [SMW-devel] SFFormLinker::setBrokenLink is doing what?

2013-09-19 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi James, That function checks, for every red link on the page, whether there's a property somewhere on the wiki pointing to that page, that has a form associated with it - and if there is, setBrokenLink() changes the URL of that red link to look like "Special:FormEdit/form-name/page-name" - so th

Re: [SMW-devel] SFFormLinker::setBrokenLink is doing what?

2013-09-19 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, It's been quite a while since I looked into the red-link handling, and I don't remember what the difference is between the queries (they both call SMW code to do the actual querying), but from what I recall it was a pretty significant performance difference. It would be easy to add a setting

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Error with SIO and SF

2013-09-12 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Bernhard, You've uncovered a bug in SF (it's not related at all to SIO) - the presence of "-Adressen.Bezirk" (specifically, the first "-") is messing up the process of associating template fields with properties. There's an easy fix, although unfortunately for some reason there's an issue righ

Re: [SMW-devel] [Semediawiki-user] Status of faceted search for SMW

2013-08-16 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Yury, There are, of course, a number of existing faceted search solutions that don't require any patches: - The Semantic Drilldown extension - The Special:RunQuery page of Semantic Forms - The "filtered" result format in Semantic Result Formats (I'm assuming it still works, though I don't know

Re: [SMW-devel] RFC: SMWPageSchemas in SMW core (1.9)

2013-08-11 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, I didn't know whether you were serious about splitting off the SMW PS class into its own extension, but clearly you are - and you might want other functionality split off as well, like maybe an #info tag extension. I don't know whether it's worth having a full discussion about the philosophy o

Re: [SMW-devel] RFC: SMWPageSchemas in SMW core (1.9)

2013-08-08 Thread Yaron Koren
ssage( 'smw-createproperty-isproperty', $typeTag > )->inContentLanguage()->text(); > > [3] PageSchemas::getValueFromObject( $prop_array, 'name' ); > > [4] PageSchemas::getValueFromObject( $prop_array, 'Type' ); > $allowedValues = PageSchemas::getVal

Re: [SMW-devel] RFC: SMWPageSchemas in SMW core (1.9)

2013-08-08 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi, On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 9:48 AM, Jeroen De Dauw wrote: > Hey, > > > Wow... I don't know if there's ever been such quick consensus on a topic > on this list. > > Yes, you have won of badge of some sorts :) > > > > I'm not even sure what a "global plan" is. :) > > Ah, of course you would deny yo

Re: [SMW-devel] RFC: SMWPageSchemas in SMW core (1.9)

2013-08-08 Thread Yaron Koren
Wow... I don't know if there's ever been such quick consensus on a topic on this list. Evidently that Page Schemas class has been bugging people for a long time. :) Yury wrote: > I remember Yaron have explained that it's a legacy remained from some kind of global > plan of making PageSchemas the

Re: [SMW-devel] SMW and the HotCat gadget

2013-06-28 Thread Yaron Koren
Hi Ryan, What do you mean by "SMW friendly"? -Yaron On Jun 28, 2013 1:07 PM, "Ryan Glasnapp" wrote: > Is anyone aware of a SMW friendly version of the HotCat gadget? > > Thanks! > --Ryan > > > -- > This SF.net email is

Re: [SMW-devel] Making subobjects correctly ordered

2013-06-21 Thread Yaron Koren
And it somewhat fits in with the different philosophies of SMW/subobjects vs. SIO: in SMW, such objects can have their own name and identity, while in SIO, they're really only attributes of the page on which they're defined. -Yaron On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Stephan Gambke wrote: &g

Re: [SMW-devel] Making subobjects correctly ordered

2013-06-20 Thread Yaron Koren
s stored with the > subject, but without modifying it. Storing the index number of a statement > the way you propose, _would_ modify the statement. So, nothing broken with > the Modification date, with that index, though... > > Cheers, > Stephan > > On Jun 20, 2013 7:02 PM, "

Re: [SMW-devel] Making subobjects correctly ordered

2013-06-20 Thread Yaron Koren
ccurrence will be dropped and not appear in any query results. I am not > sure if this is also true for subjects, but it really should be. > > So, long story short: If your data model for project management does not > explicitly contain the sequence number for the activities, then your

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