Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey

[Steve D]

And in bands outside of 5GHz as well.  I don't think there is such a thing
as "under the canopy" around here.  When you're in the trees, you're in the
trees.

900 in a lite configuration would be ideal for us.

-Steve D

On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 7:05 AM Matt  wrote:

> Why not just make a PMP450i lite connectorized AP?
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 8:19 AM, Matt Mangriotis
>  wrote:
> > Very good question George…
> >
> >
> >
> > I am trying to gauge interest.  Some folks would prefer that they are
> using
> > the same equipment throughout the network, and we don’t really have an
> > option right now for a lower priced (shorter range) but high throughput
> > extension of the network, but still a 450.  Same SMs, etc…
> >
> >
> >
> > Really wondering if many folks can’t complete a certain percentage of
> > installs due to obstructions (foliage) using 5 GHz, but could utilize an
> > “under the canopy” type of solution to light up a neighborhood.  Is that
> a
> > really common situation?  How common?
> >
> >
> >
> > Any feedback is welcome, and I value your guys’ opinions (more than some
> > others)…
> >
> >
> >
> > Matt
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Af  On Behalf Of George Skorup
> > Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 9:48 PM
> > To: af@afmug.com
> > Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey
> >
> >
> >
> > Ok, I guess I have to be the one to say this. Why would we want a
> 450-based
> > micro-POP product when we have ePMP? Just askin'.
> >
> > On 6/7/2018 10:29 AM, Matt Mangriotis wrote:
> >
> > I would really like to get your opinions on this topic� would a 450
> device
> > like this help you in your network?
> >
> > �
> >
> > Now�s you chance to comment and help direct us!
> >
> > �
> >
> > Please fill out the short survey and add any other info you�d like.�
> > It�s only 16 questions.
> >
> > �
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > �
> >
> > From: Af  On Behalf Of Ray Savich
> > Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 10:08 AM
> > To: 'af@afmug.com' 
> > Subject [AFMUG] Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey
> >
> > �
> >
> > Add your input to the Cambium Networks MicroPOP survey.
> >
> > https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/CambiumMicroPOP
> >
> > �
> >
> > �
> >
> > Join the Conversation
> >
> > Cambium Networks Community Forum
> >
> > �
> >
> >
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

[Steve D]

I just realized that last message was more a rambling trip through
nostalgia versus anything useful for the OP or others looking at this
software.

GIS software in general is probably very well suited to fiber mapping and
most of it very database driven.  Oil, Forestry, Mining all make use of
this sort of software big time.  There probably exist "purpose" built tools
as others have mentioned on here, but a more "general" piece of GIS
software like this has the benefit of being able to handle whatever you
want to throw at it, at the expense of making it a bit more complicated to
get setup.

Long term though, you'll have something that can scale.  If down the road,
for whatever reason, you need to work with another company or government,
being able to be "here, this is what we have" in a shapefile (or whatever
format) they'll really appreciate it.  Likewise, you might get data from
another entity and be able to easily merge it in with your own.

Anyway, my two cents.

Cheers,

-Steve D

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 2:05 PM Steve D  wrote:

> You know I have to say, I have not given QGIS a fair shake in over 10
> years.  I gave it a download last night and it's not the weak, completely
> unfinished, seemingly dead piece of open source software I played with back
> in 2005/2006.  Around that time, as part of a part-time job/college
> project/whatever thing, I was working on a Shapefile to PostGIS tool and
> relied on a lot of the work QGIS had already done, but only because we had
> no desire to work with QGIS itself (and at that time, ESRI made no bones
> about having nothing to do with OSS software - a very Microsoft attitude).
> When I finished college and moved on to new full time work at a couple of
> places, I never gave it a close look again.  First working with ARCGIS
> (spoiled me) then onto other programs, such as Pathloss, GlobalMapper, and
> so forth.  So when I say QGIS, at a glance, looks pretty damn good, I mean
> it.  It certainly has the gears in my head turning about what I can do with
> it next.
>
> On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:32 AM Brian Webster 
> wrote:
>
>> Sterling,
>>
>> The QGIS software is well suited for what you want and
>> you can spin up an instance of PostgreSQL/PostGIS database for all the data
>> and have the mapping interface directly to the database and without too
>> much other work the mapping can be web enabled such that the data is
>> accessible on other devices. I would be willing to help you set something
>> like this up. It’s not too bad to do if someone already have a Google Earth
>> file and/or spreadsheet established for their existing information. That
>> can be imported and used to start the whole system. Software cost is nil,
>> time is your other investment and paying me if you want some help in that
>> regard. If you already have someone who is good with relational databases
>> then your learning curve is not as steep.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thank You,
>>
>> Brian Webster
>>
>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>
>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sterling Jacobson
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 06, 2018 12:13 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018
>>
>>
>>
>> Sounds interesting.
>>
>>
>>
>> What I really want, if it exists, is a full layer system.
>>
>>
>>
>> Such that I can enter my GIS info for conduit and conduit capacity and
>> used capacity on the physical level, then the fiber type/count in each
>> section by geo on top of that, then the splice points/case map and power
>> readings on top of that.
>>
>>
>>
>> Then the network layer on top of that with all the switch connections and
>> capacity, then the layer 3 on top of that with current routing info.
>>
>>
>>
>> Too much to ask for, but it would be awesome to say give me the details
>> between point A and B and explode the view open to all layers to review
>> things at any level.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af  *On Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 11:07 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018
>>
>>
>>
>> You can use TowerCoverage.com to map your fiber as well as use our “End
>> User Submission” system to match potential users to the fiber mapping.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer *
>>
>> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>>
>> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik &

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018

[Steve D]

You know I have to say, I have not given QGIS a fair shake in over 10
years.  I gave it a download last night and it's not the weak, completely
unfinished, seemingly dead piece of open source software I played with back
in 2005/2006.  Around that time, as part of a part-time job/college
project/whatever thing, I was working on a Shapefile to PostGIS tool and
relied on a lot of the work QGIS had already done, but only because we had
no desire to work with QGIS itself (and at that time, ESRI made no bones
about having nothing to do with OSS software - a very Microsoft attitude).
When I finished college and moved on to new full time work at a couple of
places, I never gave it a close look again.  First working with ARCGIS
(spoiled me) then onto other programs, such as Pathloss, GlobalMapper, and
so forth.  So when I say QGIS, at a glance, looks pretty damn good, I mean
it.  It certainly has the gears in my head turning about what I can do with
it next.

On Wed, Jun 6, 2018 at 10:32 AM Brian Webster 
wrote:

> Sterling,
>
> The QGIS software is well suited for what you want and you
> can spin up an instance of PostgreSQL/PostGIS database for all the data and
> have the mapping interface directly to the database and without too much
> other work the mapping can be web enabled such that the data is accessible
> on other devices. I would be willing to help you set something like this
> up. It’s not too bad to do if someone already have a Google Earth file
> and/or spreadsheet established for their existing information. That can be
> imported and used to start the whole system. Software cost is nil, time is
> your other investment and paying me if you want some help in that regard.
> If you already have someone who is good with relational databases then your
> learning curve is not as steep.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sterling Jacobson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 06, 2018 12:13 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018
>
>
>
> Sounds interesting.
>
>
>
> What I really want, if it exists, is a full layer system.
>
>
>
> Such that I can enter my GIS info for conduit and conduit capacity and
> used capacity on the physical level, then the fiber type/count in each
> section by geo on top of that, then the splice points/case map and power
> readings on top of that.
>
>
>
> Then the network layer on top of that with all the switch connections and
> capacity, then the layer 3 on top of that with current routing info.
>
>
>
> Too much to ask for, but it would be awesome to say give me the details
> between point A and B and explode the view open to all layers to review
> things at any level.
>
>
>
> *From:* Af  *On Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 5, 2018 11:07 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018
>
>
>
> You can use TowerCoverage.com to map your fiber as well as use our “End
> User Submission” system to match potential users to the fiber mapping.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer *
>
> Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition”
>
> *Link Technologies, Inc* -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services
>
> *Office*: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.linktechs.net
>
> Create Wireless Coverage’s with www.towercoverage.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af  *On Behalf Of *Paul Stewart
> *Sent:* Saturday, June 2, 2018 6:31 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018
>
>
>
> We utilize Patch Manager - https://patchmanager.com
>
>
>
> It started as a great way to DCIM – data center racks across many
> locations etc but with their GIS mapping add-on and other features we’re
> looking to utilize it for fiber builds and should work pretty nicely ….
>
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Af  on behalf of Brian Webster <
> i...@wirelessmapping.com>
> *Reply-To: *
> *Date: *Friday, June 1, 2018 at 10:46 PM
> *To: *
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018
>
>
>
> Yes QGIS is a great program and since it is open source you will find a
> lot of support and how to articles. Not as simple as Google Earth Pro but
> it has a lot more power. A real professional GIS platform. The key to its
> flexibility are the plugins you can download. Plan on spending some time
> reading through each of those descriptions to see if there are features you
> want. It certainly has a learning curve as does any mapping program. On the
> higher level you can actually connect to most database platforms so if you
> plan on managing your plant with more than spreadsheets you can keep both
> the mapping and database tied together as one.
>
>
>
> Thank You,
>
> Brian Webster
>
> www.wirelessmapping.com
>
> www.Broadband-Mapping.com
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com ] *On
> Behalf Of *Mark Radabaugh
> *Sent:* Friday, June 01, 2018 5:12 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fiber Mapping - 2018
>

[AFMUG] Wooden utility poles - when are they no good?

[Steve D]

So, we have a small repeater site on private land, pole goes about 25'
above ground.  I'm a bit leery of its lifespan, it was old looking when we
acquired the site, and that was 10 years ago.  Its got some severe checking
the whole way up, the longest being about 6' and the deepest being 5.5"
deep.

Did a drill test to see what it was like inside.  In ground level it
drilled solid, and using a 18" bit (non-auger) required multiple plunges.
Having drilled many a log (log homes are common) it felt solid.  About 3'
above ground was different though, I was able to drill in 18" in a single
plunge.  Not hollow inside, but definitely soft.

I'm thinking this thing is done and the owner should replace it but I have
no idea at what point these things are considered unsafe.  I'd rather it be
a nice chunk of steel, but the costs of putting up a tower are a tad
exorbitant given what it serves.

Thoughts?

Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS

[Steve D]

Isn't FreeACS dead though?  Did community take it over?

We ended up deciding to go the paid route.  The ACS company we are with...
I have mixed feelings so don't want to give a good or bad review yet.  But,
I'm still curious about what others are using in case we decide to dump
them.

-Steve D

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 11:16 AM, Jesse DuPont <jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
> wrote:

> I loaded up FreeACS and put the URL for it in my Telrad UE's and also a
> Mikrotik with the TR-069 package on it. I've got my ACS configured to allow
> anything so every UE and the Mikrotik showed up in the ACS and I can see
> the stats from the last time each device updated. I did make a "profile"
> for the Telrad so it would ask for certain fields, but I did it by having
> the ACS ask for all fields and then adding the ones I wanted to the
> profile; same for the Mikrotik.
>
> Other than getting them to show up in the ACS, I haven't done anything
> constructive like firmware update, but I'll be testing it with the
> Mikrotik. I guess it does log syslog entries to the database.
>
> It looks like I'd have to do some DBA wizardry to get the UE stats into
> something I can graph over time (like an RRD or other DB) because it
> appears that only the most recent stat is kept in the database (that is,
> it's not a time series field maybe?). I suppose with a little reading, I
> could get them into InfluxDB or something like that, trend them in Grafana.
>
> A few screen shots attached.
>
> *Jesse DuPont*
>
> Network Architect
> email: jesse.dup...@celeritycorp.net
> Celerity Networks LLC
>
> Celerity Broadband LLC
> Like us! facebook.com/celeritynetworksllc
>
> Like us! facebook.com/celeritybroadband
> On 5/2/18 12:02 PM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> Well, my experience so far is that different devices have different fields
> available, and you have to have a different template for each one.  The
> open source ACS's give you no templates, so you have to know what you're
> doing and create templates.  In theory the manufacturer can pre-populate
> their ACS with templates.
>
> The first one I ever saw that really made life easy for you was Readynet's
> cloud based ACS.  I don't know if they support any devices other than their
> own, but if they did I might pay them for the privilege!
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net>
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 5/2/2018 12:51:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS
>
> and is there any advantage to using one that comes from the vendor vs. a
> third party one?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:50:47 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] TR-069 ACS
>
> Has anybody tripped over an ACS software package that they like?
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] TR-069 ACS

[Steve D]

Typical use case is if you are multi-vendor to begin with.  Some Vendor
ACS's will work fine for compatibility, but you run into the dreaded "buy
our cpe or pound sand" argument when you go to get support.  If we only did
one brand, we'd probably use whatever they have these days, but you might
cross not only different LTE vendors into one ACS system, but different
technologies as well.  Home routers, adsl modems, etc.

-Steve D

On Wed, May 2, 2018 at 9:51 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> and is there any advantage to using one that comes from the vendor vs. a
> third party one?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Adam Moffett" <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, May 2, 2018 11:50:47 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] TR-069 ACS
>
> Has anybody tripped over an ACS software package that they like?
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag though...

[Steve D]

I still believe the same could be said about the modern smart phone...

-Steve D

On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:43 AM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

> That is one major ding against the Model 3; too many things incorporated
> into that massive monitor, including things that would be much simpler with
> a simple switch or two (or three or four). Not sure how that passed any
> usability tests. I would have made it smaller, or tried to figure out how
> to blend it better.
>
> --
> bp
> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 11:30 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I would buy one, except I don’t want a car with a freaking TV bolted to
>> the dashboard.
>>
>> *From:* Bill Prince
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 12:19 PM
>> *To:* Motorola III
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag
>> though...
>>
>> I know it's easy to bash Elon; he's not my favorite human by any stretch.
>> However, if these latest delivery numbers are accurate, the Model 3 is
>> beginning to crush the rest of the electric car market.
>>
>> https://cleantechnica.com/2018/03/05/tesla-model-3-wins-febr
>> uary-despite-production-woes-electric-car-sales-dim-usa/
>>
>> -bp
>>
>> --
>> bp
>> part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:20 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> But there is sumpin’ special about Tesla.
>>>
>>> I can go drive a GT out there any time I want to pay the fee on the day
>>> they do their training days.
>>> Can’t do that with Tesla... yet...
>>>
>>> *From:* Travis Johnson
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:59 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag
>>> though...
>>>
>>> Normal insurance won't cover any vehicle on a race track. You have to
>>> buy specialized insurance, which I'm sure would be crazy expensive.
>>>
>>> It would be more economical to buy the new Ford GT350R ($500k) or the
>>> new Corvette Z06 ($120k)... mainly because they are the two fastest track
>>> cars available right now... even beating the Porsche 918 ($1 million).
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/8/2018 10:10 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe I could buy one and rent it out for $1K/day.  We do have a very
>>> nice race track nearby.
>>>
>>> *From:* Chuck McCown
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 10:00 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag
>>> though...
>>>
>>> Travis, want to do a fractional ownership thing with me on one of
>>> these???
>>>
>>> *From:* Travis Johnson
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2018 9:52 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: This is pretty slick - that price tag
>>> though...
>>>
>>> The only problem is the Roadster won't be shipping until 2020 or
>>> later... LOL
>>>
>>> Travis
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/8/2018 9:24 AM, Cameron Crum wrote:
>>>
>>> No doubt about that. But, considering the specs on this car, it is cheap
>>> compared to other "super cars" with relatively similar (not much out there
>>> that can boast these specs) performance specifications. I've never been a
>>> big Tesla car fan as I don't think the company would have been successful
>>> on its own, but that is the car industry these days.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 8, 2018 at 10:01 AM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The Tesla is Elon's direct reach into the pockets of the wealthy to
>>>> fund his businesses
>>>>
>>>> On 3/8/18 7:38 AM, Jon Lee wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is more my style :)
>>>>> http://bollingermotors.com
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mar 7, 2018 5:16 PM, "Jason McKemie" <j.mckemie@veloxinetbroadband.
>>>>> com <mailto:j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://www.tesla.com/roadster
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] what happenned to white space?

[Steve D]

Redline makes a product that is both very real and performs.  Not as
expensive as those others, but  ubnt guys don't even apply, LTE and Cambium
450 guys should be able to swallow that pill but it's bazillion times past
anything carlson or airspan have made yet and it's real company that
answers the damn phone!  It's been a regulatory nightmare, but 900mhz does.
not. come. close. to going where this goes.

Y'all need to be fighting for this and not giving up so easily because it
CANNOT sit dead on the vine like this, and unfortunately for me, I'm not in
FCC land so all I can do is flail my arms and tell you to push.  Get the TV
guys kicked out so you can have the channel sizes (via bonding) and this
stuff will be amazing.

Our test deployment has been fantastic and we have dozens of places I wish
we could just start slapping it up.

-Steve D

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 7:53 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote:

> We have one 5MHz channel available in our area, the rest was all claimed
> by wireless microphones - I am guessing by the University.
>
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 6:40 AM, Mark Radabaugh <m...@amplex.net> wrote:
>
>> Too little, too late.  5Mhz (usable) channels.  Even with bonding
>> multiple channels together it’s not much bandwidth.   NAB successfully
>> killed it by insisting on way too strict OOB filtering.  Carlson didn’t
>> help it any with vaporware.  And now we have NAB running around saying
>> shared spectrum is a bad model because it didn’t work in whitespace.
>> Sometime you can’t win.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On Mar 1, 2018, at 11:57 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote:
>>
>> The equipment never really made it to market, I think because of the poor
>> rules and the jack of spectrum... dead unless you want to do IOT type of
>> stuff, isn't really qualified for broadband when your AP can only do
>> 3-20mbps in 2018
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 1, 2018 at 6:34 PM, Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> This was supposed to be like putting a monkey in shoes, but then it went
>>> silent, is it essentially a dead duck or is there still something
>>> happenning?
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?

[Steve D]

Hey Ben, document didn't make it through to list.  I like the pylon holder
and see a few of that design now.  Nice and simple, a coworker had
suggested some upside down hoop thing for quite a bit more each but I think
it was for large trucks.  I think this thread has given me enough leads to
make something up though.  Cheers,

-Steve D

On Thu, Nov 30, 2017 at 5:07 PM, Ben Royer <operati...@royell.net> wrote:

> Steve,
>
> I ended up ordering these:
>
> http://a.co/gtzGRRV
>
> Work pretty good.  Just have the guys throw a bungee on it too.
>
> I just typed something simple up for now, but still looking to make
> something more involved.  Attached is my basic document.
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 <(217)%20965-3699> www.royell.net
>
> *From:* Steve D <bigd...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 30, 2017 5:09 PM
> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?
>
> Any further luck on finding this kind of info?  Our company is looking to
> implement the same thing.
>
> Anyone got a source for a good cone holder for vehicles too?  (Cheap,
> simple.)
>
> -Steve D
>
> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Ben Royer <operati...@royell.net> wrote:
>
>> Good info, thanks again.  I’ve been trying to find other companies’ data,
>> but even with the abundance that is the interwebs, I’ve had little luck so
>> far.  I am however settling in on something along these lines:
>>
>>
>> oCones must be placed in front and behind vehicle, greater than 5’
>> away, no further than 1’ x MPH of roadway, or a distance deemed necessary
>> for environment and driving conditions.
>>
>> oCones must be placed in front and behind vehicle, 3’-10’ away, when
>> working in non-roadway areas.
>>
>> oClass II Hi-Vis Apparel must be worn when working within 15’ of any
>> roadway with traffic speeds of 1-40MPH
>>
>> oClass III Hi-Vis Apparel must be worn when working within 15’ of
>> any roadway with traffic speeds of 40+MPH
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
>> Royell Communications, Inc.
>> 217-965-3699 <(217)%20965-3699> www.royell.net
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http://www.royell.net=E,1,sdAmIT1cFfaV15q5OH0dP6n4R8RHigxN6tsOALnCrTIDx5-wanGzUPwjwOBTjKh9kwc2me6QdUoJnvg2SC5ujja4Gz0DsXwfI338dxx8AcL1Pufa_3s,=1>
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2017 11:27 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?
>>
>> No, the cone is purely to force them to walk behind the vehicle when
>> leaving so they don’t squish the customer’s kids.
>>
>> *From:* Ben Royer
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2017 10:22 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?
>>
>> Thanks,  Do you specify to the employee the distance of cone?  IE: 1’*MPH
>> of roadway? or 10’ or anything like that?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
>> Royell Communications, Inc.
>> 217-965-3699 <(217)%20965-3699> www.royell.net
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://www.royell.net=E,1,UuCBgfjQM-gsnHCFRyEqTEpzns_aZhJ9PLykQ7obxgk1Vg7spqZedJ-as-LVWt-ekyOz_otlQdEcIyVMnjOq8SAuu3osrTlBFhjj_-CyNLg,=1>
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2017 11:15 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?
>>
>> Not sure I have written it down.  If in a public ROW, hard hats and
>> orange vests must be worn.
>> If in a UDOT ROW then amber blinky light on top must be used.
>>
>> Cones behind the truck at every stop.
>>
>> *From:* Ben Royer
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2017 10:11 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?
>>
>> Does anyone have pre-drafted Safety Policies?  We have a tower climbing
>> policy and workplace policy, but I’m looking to implement a ‘traffic’
>> safety one.  Something along the lines of when and where to use Hi-Vis
>> clothing, cones, etc.  Anyone have an example you’d share of anything like
>> this?
>>
>> Thank you,
>> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
>> Royell Communications, Inc.
>> 217-965-3699 <(217)%20965-3699> www.royell.net
>> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://www.royell.net=E,1,JyuQfCF8SBNz1KBChC29D0D4g2PBxJ-nNFFBSX4Bo9Yc6HuNDIBuP9-EueHbxhV1U-LEPlwx_o9tqwhqq7qROPU4LyuPbcp49293lMeWz8j9pnZrv8geTA,,=1>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?

[Steve D]

Any further luck on finding this kind of info?  Our company is looking to
implement the same thing.

Anyone got a source for a good cone holder for vehicles too?  (Cheap,
simple.)

-Steve D

On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Ben Royer <operati...@royell.net> wrote:

> Good info, thanks again.  I’ve been trying to find other companies’ data,
> but even with the abundance that is the interwebs, I’ve had little luck so
> far.  I am however settling in on something along these lines:
>
>
> oCones must be placed in front and behind vehicle, greater than 5’
> away, no further than 1’ x MPH of roadway, or a distance deemed necessary
> for environment and driving conditions.
>
> oCones must be placed in front and behind vehicle, 3’-10’ away, when
> working in non-roadway areas.
>
> oClass II Hi-Vis Apparel must be worn when working within 15’ of any
> roadway with traffic speeds of 1-40MPH
>
> oClass III Hi-Vis Apparel must be worn when working within 15’ of any
> roadway with traffic speeds of 40+MPH
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 <(217)%20965-3699> www.royell.net
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2017 11:27 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?
>
> No, the cone is purely to force them to walk behind the vehicle when
> leaving so they don’t squish the customer’s kids.
>
> *From:* Ben Royer
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2017 10:22 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?
>
> Thanks,  Do you specify to the employee the distance of cone?  IE: 1’*MPH
> of roadway? or 10’ or anything like that?
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 <(217)%20965-3699> www.royell.net
> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://www.royell.net=E,1,UuCBgfjQM-gsnHCFRyEqTEpzns_aZhJ9PLykQ7obxgk1Vg7spqZedJ-as-LVWt-ekyOz_otlQdEcIyVMnjOq8SAuu3osrTlBFhjj_-CyNLg,=1>
>
> *From:* Chuck McCown
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2017 11:15 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?
>
> Not sure I have written it down.  If in a public ROW, hard hats and orange
> vests must be worn.
> If in a UDOT ROW then amber blinky light on top must be used.
>
> Cones behind the truck at every stop.
>
> *From:* Ben Royer
> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 31, 2017 10:11 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Safety Policy / Traffic Policy?
>
> Does anyone have pre-drafted Safety Policies?  We have a tower climbing
> policy and workplace policy, but I’m looking to implement a ‘traffic’
> safety one.  Something along the lines of when and where to use Hi-Vis
> clothing, cones, etc.  Anyone have an example you’d share of anything like
> this?
>
> Thank you,
> Ben Royer, Operations Manager
> Royell Communications, Inc.
> 217-965-3699 <(217)%20965-3699> www.royell.net
> <https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=https://www.royell.net=E,1,JyuQfCF8SBNz1KBChC29D0D4g2PBxJ-nNFFBSX4Bo9Yc6HuNDIBuP9-EueHbxhV1U-LEPlwx_o9tqwhqq7qROPU4LyuPbcp49293lMeWz8j9pnZrv8geTA,,=1>
>

Re: [AFMUG] WaveWorks

[Steve D]

This is the same outfit/person that spammed people to say that DoubleRadius
was shutting down and moving to his store.  Then this summer this same
douchenugget (with his personal email) spammed the Ubiquiti list with
profanity because WISPA mailserver started accidentally emailing everyone
in WISPA.

Classy guy still being classy.

-Steve D

On Thu, Oct 26, 2017 at 6:59 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Agreed.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, October 26, 2017 2:57:14 PM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] WaveWorks
>
>
> Hey WaveWorks STOP MINING THE LIST EMAILS!!
>
> I’m not going to follow you on Facebook (mostly because I don’t have an
> account with the book of face).  But still it’s rude to scape email
> addresses to spam us.
>
> /rant
>
> -Sean
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT Movie Review

[Steve D]

I'm waiting for the directors final
I-swear-it's-the-best-version-for-real-this-time final final cut.

-Steve D

On Sat, Oct 14, 2017 at 6:19 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Blade Runner
> Two thumbs down.
> Long, boring and they never develop any of the interesting ideas they
> launch.
>
> I should have seen the new Jackie Chan movie instead.
>

Re: [AFMUG] Who did what?

[Steve D]

I'd say that's a shitty expectation to place upon an employee.  They're
fired.  End of story.

It's shitty for morale for everyone around that person if they stick it
out.  Serious downer.  I watched a single father sitting and crying at his
job for half the shift after getting his slip (he had started a week after
me - was just a summer job at a sawmill for me, but everything for him).
When that shitty ass company laid me off the next week, fortunately the ass
doing the first round of firing also got fired and his replacement waited
for the end of the shift to let us go.

I can't imagine why an employer would care.  You want him gone, he's gone.
Probably less hassle.

-Steve D

On Thu, Aug 17, 2017 at 10:45 PM, Matt Hoppes <
mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:

> I'm curious on opinions on a scenario...
>
> Now, the way this plays out is somewhat like the AT call center from a
> few weeks ago, but ignore that...
>
> If an employee is told their last day is today, please complete the tasks
> assigned to you and then go on your way.
>
> BUT... the employee refuses to complete any of the jobs assigned to them
> and instead immediately walks off the job telling you "find someone else to
> do those tasks, I need to go look for work".
>
> Did the employee get fired... or quit their job?
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Notice - Removal of "supp...@cambiumnetworks.com" Email

[Steve D]

I don't see a problem with this for ticket creation.  I imagine you'd get
email notices of updates to your ticket though right?  If it makes them
more efficient to not have to sort through spam etc, then power to them.
More I think about it I think I prefer knowing the ticket is in their
system for sure.

On Jun 8, 2017 8:04 AM, "Mathew Howard"  wrote:

> The few times that I've used Cambium support, I did it through the website
> anyway... looks to me like the new system may be improved a bit when doing
> it that way, so I can't say that I really care.
>
> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 9:58 AM, Adam Moffett  wrote:
>
>> I guess I've never emailed them.
>> I called them once, and was later advised to use the online form because
>> the person answering the phone call is just opening a ticket and
>> transcribing what you say into the ticket.  Whereas the online form went
>> directly into the ticketing system.
>>
>> I wonder if emails went directly to the ticketing system or if there was
>> a middle man like with the phone calls.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Mike Hammett" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 6/8/2017 10:45:38 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Notice - Removal of "supp...@cambiumnetworks.com"
>> Email
>>
>> It's markedly more difficult to start a ticket if I have to go to a web
>> site, login, fill out a bunch of crap, etc. (versus click the new mail
>> button, type supp...@cambiumnetworks.com, type my problem, send). This
>> is the same Cambium that asks you thirty questions to download some
>> marketing information.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Adam Moffett" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:44:02 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Notice - Removal of "
>> supp...@cambiumnetworks.com"Email
>>
>> Mike, is the online form that much harder than email?
>>
>> Besides, how often do you really need them?  I've contacted Moto/Cambium
>> support maybe 2 or 3 times in the past 13 years.
>> Overall the thing works as described in the documentation, so I haven't
>> had much need of support.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Mike Hammett" 
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 6/8/2017 10:32:10 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Notice - Removal of "
>> supp...@cambiumnetworks.com" Email
>>
>> I told them, "That change not to mention notification of that change
>> eight weeks later is unacceptable.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>>
>>
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Joe Novak" 
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, June 8, 2017 9:21:16 AM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Fwd: Notice - Removal of "
>> supp...@cambiumnetworks.com"Email
>>
>> I prefer email too. It's like my aggregation so I don't have to look at a
>> million different websites for status updates.
>>
>>
>> Joe
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 9:14 AM, can...@believewireless.net <
>> p...@believewireless.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah, not happy about it. E-mail is my preferred method of support.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 8:12 AM, Mike Hammett  wrote:
>>>
 Anyone else miffed by this?



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions 
 
 
 
 
 Midwest Internet Exchange 
 
 
 

Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge

[Steve D]

Peter is getting the ball rolling on a piece of marketing for something
small isp's are probably doing anyway and to help drive people from the big
dogs.  I'd say sign up, and astro-turf this into every Reddit , ars
Technica , whatever comment section that talks about this stuff and get
some people aware of your existence.  This is an opportunity for good word
of mouth for your business.

Or keep bickering about political bullshit.  Whatever.

On Mar 31, 2017 6:56 AM, "Adam Moffett"  wrote:

> I wasn't gonna say anything.
>
> I did read the article, and the wikileaks email it cites.  The problem is
> not that the source is Julian Assange, it's that it's Julian Assange's
> *opinion*.  The cited email doesn't say Google is feeding data to
> Hillary.  Jared Coen (Google Exec) is informing Hillary (via her staff)
> about data in Syria that he's putting on a public map.  During the date on
> the email, Clinton was Secretary of State.  The cited email does not say
> anything about the relationship:  it doesn't say whether Jared Coen was
> doing a favor for Clinton or whether Google was working as a contractor for
> the State Department.
>
> The rest of the claims are inferred either by Assange or by the Author.
> .
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Jason McKemie" 
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Sent: 3/31/2017 4:46:47 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
>
> WikiLeaks releases only what they feel will help their agenda, which also
> happens to be Putin's agenda. I don't watch Rachel Maddow, so I can't speak
> to anything she does. The New York Times has significantly more
> journalistic integrity than Brietbart.
>
> On Friday, March 31, 2017, Rory Conaway  wrote:
>
>> So Wikieleaks hasn’t published any fake data ever, but because Brietbart
>> writes about it, that means it’s fake data.   But if the New York Times or
>> Rachel Maddow said the same thing, you would accept that as truth.  And you
>> don’t see a problem with that?
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Friday, March 31, 2017 12:40 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
>>
>>
>>
>> It's not evidence if it is made up or slanted to serve an agenda.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 31, 2017 at 2:37 AM, Rory Conaway 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Yea, I believe WickieLeaks but nice try.  It’s amazing that you care more
>> about the source of the writing than the evidence the brought forth.  This
>> information, although sparse, is accurate.  I’m sure that you don’t believe
>> Google employees were working in the administration and had nothing to do
>> with the Net Neutrality Act or the 20 pages redacted from that act that
>> nobody saw.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jason McKemie
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:17 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
>>
>>
>>
>> +Graham's number.
>>
>>
>>
>> They're about as dependable and un-biased as Fox "News".
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 30, 2017 at 9:43 PM, Bill Prince  wrote:
>>
>> You believe Breitbart?!?!?
>>
>> What planet you live on?
>>
>>
>>
>> bp
>>
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/30/2017 7:12 PM, Rory Conaway wrote:
>>
>> http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/06/08/julian-assange-says
>> -google-directly-engaged-clinton-campaign/
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Adam Moffett
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 6:50 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
>>
>>
>>
>> Wha?
>>
>> citation?
>>
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>>
>> From: "Rory Conaway" 
>>
>> To: "af@afmug.com" 
>>
>> Sent: 3/30/2017 9:47:45 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
>>
>>
>>
>> One other thing that I’m sure the Republicans considered when supporting
>> this bill.  They know Google has been supplying and manipulating data and
>> search engines for the Democrats for years.  Hell, they started a company
>> specifically to do just that.  I think the Republicans are looking at
>> having access to that data as being important.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Peter Kranz
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 30, 2017 5:10 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ISP Privacy Pledge
>>
>>
>>
>> It’s true, and it is the core business case of many other social network
>> companies, but people can choose not to use google.. How do they choose not
>> to use the only ISP in their market?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *Peter Kranz *www.UnwiredLtd.com 
>> Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 <(510)%20868-1614>
>> Mobile: 510-207- <(510)%20207->
>> pkr...@unwiredltd.com
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of 

Re: [AFMUG] Mass Changes to Epmp and 450?

[Steve D]

Are devices automagically onboarded as you install them after the initial
onboard?  Or does it need to be manually run every now and then?

How is the stability of cnmaestro?  Not have had any need yet for
cnmaestro, but it does sound like its maturing nicely.

On Tue, Mar 14, 2017 at 8:41 AM, Jon Bruce 
wrote:

> 450 and 450i
>
> SMs show - Connection Status: Connected (ip.ip.ip.ip - From AP)
>
> I did all of my on-boarding from Operate -> Onboard Devices -> Onboard.
> After just adding the IP to the 450x APs, the APs and SMs showed up there.
>
> On 3/14/2017 11:10 AM, Adam Moffett wrote:
>
> Was that on 450 or ePMP or both?
>
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Jon Bruce" 
> To: af@afmug.com
> Sent: 3/14/2017 8:23:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mass Changes to Epmp and 450?
>
> My SMs came in automatically when I on-boarded the APs
>
> On 3/13/2017 7:33 PM, Jon Langeler wrote:
>
> As far as I can tell, if you get the AP on boarded, the SMs learn after
> that. But they need DNS if your CN host is a name (vs IP).
>
> Jon Langeler
> Michwave Technologies, Inc.
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2017, at 7:10 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>
> Do I need to have all the sms talking to the cn maestro?
>
> From: Af  on behalf of Josh Baird <
> joshba...@gmail.com>
> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Date: Monday, March 13, 2017 at 7:06 PM
> To: "af@afmug.com" 
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Mass Changes to Epmp and 450?
>
> cnMaestro templates work well for this.
>
>
>
> *Gino Villarini*
> President
> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>
> 
> On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 6:54 PM, Gino Villarini  wrote:
>
>> WE need to push some mass changes to lots of Epmp and 450 Sms, without
>> changing some pre configured parameters, what would be the correct way t
>> accomplish this? CN Maestro? Cnut? Custom SNMP?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Gino Villarini*
>> President
>> Metro Office Park #18 Suite 304 Guaynabo, Puerto Rico 00968
>>
>> 
>>
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] New Install Van?

[Steve D]

(Insert shut-up-and-take-my-money.jpg here)

-Steve D

On Wed, Feb 1, 2017 at 4:02 PM, Jason McKemie <
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:

> http://www.nvcargox.com/

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

[Steve D]

No.

On Nov 30, 2016 12:41 PM, "Mike Hammett" <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

> Just watch it.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL>
> <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions>
> <https://twitter.com/ICSIL>
> Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange>
> <https://twitter.com/mdwestix>
> The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/>
> <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp>
>
>
> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg>
> --
> *From: *"Dennis Burgess" <dmburg...@linktechs.net>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:47:10 AM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
> Someone want to write up the entire thing?  What it is etc?  how it works
> vs having us all listen to a webinar :?
>
>
>
>
>
> *Dennis Burgess** –** Network Solution Engineer – Consultant *
>
> MikroTik Certified Trainer/Consultant
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>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve D
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 30, 2016 11:28 AM
> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI?
>
>
>
> Learn something new everyday.  :p
>
>
>
> -Steve D
>
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> There are probably hardware filters on the RF side.
>
>
>
> bp
>
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
>
> On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be
> downconverted 5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside)
> If thats the case could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz?
> I assume the downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally
> would make a very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network
> into epmp in one move
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> 25% is what I remember.
>
>
>
>
>
> -- Original Message --
>
> From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>
> To: af@afmug.com
>
> Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>
>
>
> That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low
> though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last
> number I heard.
>
>
>
> On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making
> more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and
> delivered. Lol
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
> assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can run a
> Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson <ja...@remotelylocated.com>
> wrote:
>
> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>
> *check the Release Notes for com

Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!

[Steve D]

What, you mean they didn't just change the 5's to 3's in the GUI?

Learn something new everyday.  :p

-Steve D

On Nov 30, 2016 8:41 AM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

> There are probably hardware filters on the RF side.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
>
> On 11/30/2016 8:35 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
>
> so I have a technical question. The m365 gear is ssupposed to be
> downconverted 5ghz, is that a software downconvert? (FCC ID issues aside)
> If thats the case could this be loaded onto m365 to turn it into epmp 5ghz?
> I assume the downconvert is more than a software load, but man, I literally
> would make a very inappropriate mess if I could dump the ubnt 3ghz network
> into epmp in one move
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:30 AM, Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> 25% is what I remember.
>>
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Josh Reynolds" <j...@kyneticwifi.com>
>> To: af@afmug.com
>> Sent: 11/30/2016 11:29:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Nicely done, Cambium!
>>
>> That's a very interesting point. I don't think their margins are that low
>> though. They've done what, 40mil units sold? I think that was the last
>> number I heard.
>>
>> On Nov 30, 2016 10:27 AM, "Kurt Fankhauser" <lists.wavel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If Ubiquitis margins were low then Cambium could very well end up making
>>> more money on a radio that Ubiquiti engineered, manufactures, and
>>> delivered. Lol
>>>
>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:24 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> This is capitalism in its finest form. Cambium just upped the bar
>>>> substantially. The market had a very serious issue, and they solved it,
>>>> while still generating substantial revenue. Im curious what their profit
>>>> per hardware unit sold is compared to the profit per license, with no real
>>>> liability. Hopefully this will force ubnt to really focus efforts on real
>>>> sync that actually works and get an actual legitimate support channel. Or
>>>> even better, sell their radios preloaded with the EPMP load and work out a
>>>> discount for AP licenses through them for their customers. Mikrotik I
>>>> assume is just saying "meh, our products are good"
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 10:10 AM, Kurt Fankhauser <
>>>> lists.wavel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This is pretty neat with the whole Mikrotik thing, basically you can
>>>>> run a Mikrotik CPE network and be GPS synchronized then...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Jason Wilson <
>>>>> ja...@remotelylocated.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> ePMP Elevate Compatibility
>>>>>>
>>>>>> check the Release Notes for complete details
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- Loco M5 XW
>>>>>>- Loco M5 XM
>>>>>>- NanoStation M5 XW
>>>>>>- NanoStation M5 XM
>>>>>>- NanoBridge M5 XM
>>>>>>- Rocket M5 XM
>>>>>>- Rocket M5 XW
>>>>>>- Powerbeam M5 XW
>>>>>>- Airgrid M5HP XW
>>>>>>- Airgrid M5 XM
>>>>>>- NanoBeam M5 XW
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ePMP Elevate Developments RELEASE 1.0 - NOW AVAILABLE
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- XM + XW model
>>>>>>- Rocket M5 support as a SM - Dec 28, 2016
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RELEASE 2.0 - END OF Q1 2017
>>>>>>
>>>>>>- MikroTik Support - Alpha engagement in Q4, 2016
>>>>>>- RB911G5HPnDQRT
>>>>>>- RBSXT5nDr2
>>>>>>- RB912UAG5HPnDOT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2.4 XW + XM MODELS - END OF Q1, 2017 DELIBERANT SUPPORT - Q2, 2017
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jason Wilson
>>>>>> Remotely Located
>>>>>> Providing High Speed Internet to out of the way places.
>>>>>> 530-651-1736 <%28530%29%20651-1736>
>>>>>> 530-748-9608 <%28530%29%20748-9608> Cell
>>>>>> www.remotelylocated.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 8:06 AM, Stefan Englhardt <s

Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber

[Steve D]

Hughesnet... that's a bit ironic bringing that up in a conversation of tax
dollars paying for infrastructure.

Not going to argue semantics, but something to ponder.

-Steve D

On Sun, Oct 30, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> You have wireless internet why do you need fiber?  Everybody can get
> hughesnet.
>
>
> The county should run water and gas first.
>
>
> -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2016 4:52 PM
> To: af@afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Ammon City fiber
>
> Chuck wrote:
>
>> Why should the county not choose to build out natural gas to everyone?
>> That
>> would save them all lots of money, that would be a real benefit.  Why
>> fiber
>> not gas?
>>
>  Because gas can easily be substituted for an other form of energy, like
> electricity? And everybody's already got electricity.
>
> Jared
>

Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d

[Steve D]

So over reflectors.  Love to see lower priced versions of these and the
reflector crap phased right out.

On Sep 16, 2016 2:13 PM, "Jeff Broadwick - Lists"  wrote:

That have an integrated 3.65 unit Timothy.  It's only uncapped at this
point, but it exists.  C036045C014A.

Jeff Broadwick
ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
312-205-2519 Office
574-220-7826 Cell
jbroadw...@converge-tech.com

On Sep 16, 2016, at 4:37 PM, Timothy Steele 
wrote:

I have gotten 5db better with the 450d also inner feed designed dishes
seems to work much better when under a tower also much more simple to mount
on a tower I hope they do the same with 2.4 and 365 soon

On Fri, Sep 16, 2016, 12:57 PM SmarterBroadband 
wrote:

> +1
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Gino Villarini
> *Sent:* Friday, September 16, 2016 9:53 AM
> *To:* Animal Farm
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Cambium 450d
>
>
>
> We love it! We have standardized on it
>
>
>
> -looks way better that a SM+dish, more professional
>
> -gain the same or 1-2db better
>
> -easier to assemble / align
>
> -less windload
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 16, 2016 at 12:51 PM, Ken Hohhof  wrote:
>
> I see several WISPs deploying the 450d, but I suspect it's because they
> don't like reflector dishes, or because of the 40M license key.
>
> Cambium has indicated the 450d has a little more antenna gain than the
> regular 450 SM plus a reflector dish, but the spec sheets say 25 dBi either
> way.  What are people really seeing in the field?  Is there a performance
> difference in an apples-to-apples comparison?  How much?  I'm not going to
> get too excited about 1 dB.
>
> Otherwise, we're looking at the connectorized 450 SM.  Or the
> connectorized 450i SM, which is pretty pricey.
>

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP 3.0+ - temp config/safe mode?

[Steve D]

Hell, why is this not just something in all radios by now?

On Sep 16, 2016 5:46 PM, "Josh Luthman"  wrote:

> Did they add this feature by chance?  I have a radio linked up and it's
> only offering 10 half/full.  I'm afraid to set it to 100 full from auto and
> not have access to it again.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>

Re: [AFMUG] WISP ethics

[Steve D]

Did your feeble aunt who doesn't know the first thing about realty buy the
house?  Do you think she felt ripped off after you the expert told her the
house has termites and the golf course is actually a farm with the hay cut
extra low?  If she knew about all that, then sure, not much else to be said.

Remember, this is a question about ethics.  It's not about whether you can
make the sale, but whether you *should*.  It's a big grey area to be sure
though and all comes down to what lets you sleep well at night.  You go all
the way to douche side of the equation and you end up cell mates with some
guy named Bernie...

On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 7:20 PM, Travis Johnson  wrote:

> Something is worth whatever someone will pay for it.
>
> Eight years ago, contractors were building nice homes in a nice new area,
> next to a golf course. They would build it for $600k (total cost for
> everything) and then turn around and sell them for $1.2 - $1.4 million.
> Were people getting screwed? I think so. Did they still buy them? Yes.
>
> Travis
>
>
> On 8/22/2016 8:01 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>
> This is not a WISP that competes with me in any way...
>
> It's actually a family member's new last mile connection, where the bill
> looks like:
>
> NRC
> $several hundred dollars - CPE radio
> $165 - new customer one time installation fee
> $80 router purchase
>
> MRC
> $85 monthly for a reasonably high quota service
>
> I think that the price disparity between the actual market value of the
> router ($11 to $15 on ebay with free shipping included in the price) and
> what they sold it for is so wide that it's just *wrong*.
>
> I can see buying a $75 basic 802.11ac router and selling it for $100, or
> even $110...  But not this.
>
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:23 PM, Trey Scarborough  wrote:
>
>> I agree if they are selling the router along with installing it for $80
>> and they are not selling it as a new router I don't see the problem. Its a
>> $10 plus say $10 for shipping and $60 to install it. If that was geek squad
>> the bill would probably come out to $300...
>>
>> I agree if this is a competitor just sell a better faster router for less
>> with install.
>>
>> On 8/22/2016 8:07 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:
>>
>>> If this is your competition, I encourage you to forget about it. Nothing
>>> productive will come of it.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016, 7:33 PM Josh Luthman >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> That doesn't really answer the questions though.  Sounds like the
>>> second one kinda...
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 22, 2016 7:47 PM, "Eric Kuhnke" >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> A CPE radio was installed and aimed, ubnt PoE injector put in
>>> place, and the router connected to the LAN side of the PoE...
>>>
>>> The CPE radio installation was its own installation service
>>> charge and equipment fee separate from the $80 line item for the
>>> router.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 4:00 PM, Josh Luthman
>>> >> > wrote:
>>>
>>> If it's sold as new?  That's wrong.
>>>
>>> If it's sold as a service (go to house, install router,
>>> leave)?  That's fine.
>>>
>>> If it's sold as a used product?  That's fine.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 22, 2016 at 6:57 PM, Eric Kuhnke
>>> >
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Many WISPs rent routers or sell home wifi routers to
>>> their customers.
>>>
>>> Some routers are used pulls from other customers, get
>>> factory defaulted and configured for new customers.
>>>
>>> Nothing wrong with this.
>>>
>>> If you saw a WISP that was taking used routers from
>>> customer pulls and re-selling them to another customer
>>> at $80/piece, and that router was this exact model:
>>>
>>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/NETGEA
>>> R-WNR1000-WIRELESS-N-N150-WIRELESS-ROUTER-RANGEMAX-4-PORT-
>>> SWITCH-/171392676852?hash=item27e7ccb3f4:g:D8sAAOSwKPNTzDRY
>>>
>>> Would you consider it to be ethically questionable? I
>>> could not in good conscience sell such a feeble,
>>> obsolete $10 router for $80.
>>>
>>>
>>> This is not a 'rented' router, this was an actual
>>> purchase line item on a customer 

Re: [AFMUG] QOS on PTP450?

[Steve D]

Not familiar with the PTP450's but on the 230's and 100's you could only
set CIR in the PTP firmware (eg., 28 would be the _minimum_ they'd push
instead of the desired maximum).
I'm fairly positive when I evaluated a pair back when they first came out
they still couldn't do MIR (kinda dumb), but we never did install anymore
and perhaps firmware updates since do allow this now.

On Sun, Aug 14, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Bill Prince  wrote:

> It was showing 60 Mbps going through all the interfaces all the way to our
> feed (3 routers), and we are measuring the ethernet to his router, so I
> assume it is all going through.
>
>
> bp
> 
>
>
> On 8/14/2016 9:22 AM, Mike Hammett wrote:
>
> 60 megs hitting the SM or just 60 megs inbound before the QOS?
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
>
>
> 
> --
> *From: *"Bill Prince"  
> *To: *"Motorola III"  
> *Sent: *Sunday, August 14, 2016 11:19:30 AM
> *Subject: *[AFMUG] QOS on PTP450?
>
>
> We have an account that has a 24x24 dedicated connection on a PTP450. We
> set the QOS on the slave to 28x28 to account for slop, but noticed this
> weekend we noticed him running a 60 Mbps download for almost the whole day.
>
> Does the QOS actually work on the PTP450, or do we need to do something
> external?
>
>
> --
>
> bp
> 
>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] OT $26 Ham HT

[Steve D]

Yeah I picked up my uv5r last winter.  Good little radio.  This is a good
deal on top of a good deal.  Programming isn't bad with chirp once you
finally get it setup.

On Jul 30, 2016 11:12 AM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:

1&4 watt TX power.   FM broadcast receiver.  1.7 aH rechargable battery.
1.4 amp tx power consumption.
There is a ham made spreadsheet program you can use  to program the
resets.  User reviews are very positive except for programming.

Wow, what a price.  I remember what my Icom cost 25 years ago.

*From:* Chuck McCown 
*Sent:* Saturday, July 30, 2016 12:05 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT $26 Ham HT

https://www.amazon.com/Baofeng-136-174-400-480-Dual-Band-Transceiver/dp/B009MAKWC0/ref=sr_1_5?s=electronics=UTF8=1468592193=1-5=baofeng+ham+radio

Re: [AFMUG] [OffTopic] Archery at 10 with explosions

[Steve D]

How about filling a garbage bag full of acetylene like a balloon?  That's
good for a mushroom cloud and a few hours of tinnitus if you were close
when it went off.  My welder/mechanic friends were setting those off as
pranks at one point to wake up napping truck drivers.  After one buddy
burned himself badly filling a bag (static in the bag set it off) they
finally stopped doing that one.

-Steve D

On Thu, Jun 9, 2016 at 4:27 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I could have written this.
> Change stump to "home made cannon aka pipe bomb"
> Change pyrodex to "home made black powder".
> Change flaming arrow to crappy homemade fuse.
>
> My daylight turned amber...
>
> Those were the days!!!
>
> -Original Message- From: Josh Reynolds Sent: Thursday, June 9,
> 2016 4:11 PM To: af@afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] [OffTopic] Archery at 10
> with explosions
> I laughed my ass off
> https://www.reddit.com/r/tifu/comments/4ncaqe/tifuaround_age_10/
>

Re: [AFMUG] Odd power cycling issues

[Steve D]

It's specifically telnet that botnets are trying to brute force and it just
causes canopy to crash.  Supposedly fixed in newer firmware, but we never
tried... better just have gear invisible to the script kiddies in the first
place anyway.

-Steve D

On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 8:15 PM, Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net>
wrote:

> OK  Im going to work based on that possible issue and get routing for non
> public IP's setup tomorrow.  Thanks
>
> Craig
>
>
> --
> *From: *"Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com>
> *To: *af@afmug.com
> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 10:13:05 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Odd power cycling issues
>
> I'd say it's possible, the basic Cambium HTTP server may not be designed
> to survive pubic brute-forcing.
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 10:09 PM, Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net>
> wrote:
>
>> These devices are on public IP's .  Our upstream for this tower just
>> recently changed a bunch of routing and firewall stuff.  Is it possible
>> this is a brute force attempt that is overloading the radios in this subnet
>> and causing the to reboot ??
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Colin Stanners" <cstann...@gmail.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, April 7, 2016 10:03:18 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Odd power cycling issues
>>
>> Could it be a problem with the GPS sync that's making the water tower
>> reboot? As for the slave rebooting could be an old software bug?
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Craig House <cr...@totalhighspeed.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know this is old legacy FSK equipment but it is what is on the tower
>>> so we have an odd situation going on.
>>>
>>> Water tower fed with a 5.2 BH20 link from a bank that is 800' away.
>>> Only equipment in use on the tower is a 900 omni.  The Master BH and the
>>> 900 omni are on a CMM at the base of the tower.  For the last few days the
>>> equipment will reboot itself every 60 minutes or less on average.   Not so
>>> odd that the CMM and the equipment on the tower reboots but so does the
>>> slave Bh at the bank at the exact same time.   OK  I thought Power issues,
>>> I replaced the UPS at the base of the tower.  Problem still persists.  I
>>> can find no place where the equipment can have a ping watchdog and there is
>>> not a web power switch at the base of the tower either.  The odd part is
>>> that out of desperation I logged into the AP and the CMM and factory
>>> defaulted the devices and reconfigured them.  When I rebooted the CMM to
>>> apply the reconfiguration, the Remote BH power cycled at the same exact
>>> time.   This equipment has been in service for over 2 years and is running
>>> old firmware 9.3 on the BH20's but have never been a problem until now.   I
>>> even changed the passwords thinking someone might be accessing them and
>>> causing these issues but I'm stumped.
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?

[Steve D]

While I have no intentions of buying one today, I find no fault in letting
others but and enjoy them.  You early adopters work out the bugs, and maybe
one day they will get to a point where they are palatable for the rest of
us.  I say good on you guys!
On Mar 31, 2016 6:07 PM, "Cassidy B. Larson"  wrote:

> Or park it at a charging station and get topped up for free while you eat
> lunch…
>
> When I was in Norway this summer I saw so many Teslas in Oslo. I asked
> around and basically it’s because the taxes on “electric cars" are less
> than regular cars. Electric cars also don't have to pay the congestion
> charges, and all around town they have free charging stations. So in the
> end, it cost them significantly less than a BMW/Merc to buy.
>
>
>
> On Mar 31, 2016, at 10:00 PM, Josh Luthman 
> wrote:
>
> Even if it were 5 seconds that would be more time every two weeks than
> what I spend at a gas station.  Then I have to pay for power anyway...
>
> Not a fan of the front end duck bill.  The rear has too much Prius.  Side
> looks great.  Interior looked unfinished or space aged.
>
> 115k preorders for something you won't see in two years, though?  Woof.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 31, 2016 11:34 PM, "Chuck McCown"  wrote:
>
>> It takes 5 seconds to plug in and you wave at every gas station as you
>> pass it.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman 
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 31, 2016 9:02 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Tesla Model 3... who else is getting one?
>>
>>
>> No interest really.  Plugging in every time I get home?  Yuck.  I love
>> the updates they do with the Model S and the API power is really awesome,
>> but I'm more for NA over boost, let alone electric.
>>
>> I saw the website and thought "Who's going to preorder a car that won't
>> be announced for another hour?". IPhone users :P
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> On Mar 31, 2016 10:57 PM, "Simon Westlake"  wrote:
>>
>>> One day!
>>>
>>> On 3/31/2016 9:54 PM, Chuck Hogg wrote:
>>>
 Gerard and I just put our pre-orders in..anyone else?

 Regards,
 Chuck

>>>
>>> --
>>> Simon Westlake
>>> Skype: Simon_Sonar
>>> Email: simon@sonar.software
>>> Phone: (702) 447-1247 <%28702%29%20447-1247>
>>> ---
>>> Sonar Software Inc
>>> The next generation of ISP billing and OSS
>>> https://sonar.software
>>>
>>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah

[Steve D]

We already are...

http://brickingitforcanada.com/

https://youtu.be/QFfUSxPUXKA

-Steve D

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 5:36 PM, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:

> Made of maple syrup and hockey pucks, ey? And we'll make em pay for it!
> On Mar 22, 2016 7:35 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> How about:  if Trump wins the election, Canada will build a wall?
>>
>> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 22, 2016 7:19 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah
>>
>> If Trump wins the election I'm moving to Canada!
>>
>>
>> oh wait, I'm already Canadian.
>>
>>
>> please disregard
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 3:06 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Millions being spent by Republicans that don't want Trumpwe are just
>>> amused observers watching you guys destroy Lincoln's party by now he is
>>> spinning in his grave at centrifuge speed.
>>> On Mar 22, 2016 4:03 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Wow...an honest observer...kudos
>>>> On Mar 22, 2016 3:13 PM, "Sean Heskett" <af...@zirkel.us> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> um those ads with trump's wife were paid for by the romney super pac
>>>>> that is trying to stop trump...not the left, unless you go too far right
>>>>> that you swing all the way around to the left lol.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:43 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
>>>>> thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I do like the insult the anti trump movement perpetrated on the
>>>>>> mormons with the ad featuring his wife nude. Pandering at its finest, 
>>>>>> shows
>>>>>> the left views mormons as one step above an amoeba in terms of intellect.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 10:40 AM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You could always vote for Bernie.  ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Steve <li...@wavedirect.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well you guys get to vote for a career criminal / pathological
>>>>>>>> liar  or a sociopath narcissist.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> God have mercy on us all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Original Message -
>>>>>>>> From: "Darren Shea" <darr...@ecpi.com>
>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 11:19:48 AM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We need a "None of the Above" option - if that's the winner, not a
>>>>>>>> single one of the candidates who appeared on the ballot for that race 
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> eligible to run in the follow-up election.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Original Message-
>>>>>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Jay Weekley
>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2016 9:15 AM
>>>>>>>> To: af@afmug.com
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fw: OT Trump in Utah
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Could we be the non vocal majority or are we just the relative few
>>>>>>>> that think we're in for a long four years at least?  If I am 
>>>>>>>> interviewing
>>>>>>>> candidates for a job and don't like any of the candidates I reopen the
>>>>>>>> process and get more applications.  To bad we can't do that in 
>>>>>>>> politics.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>>>>> > AMEN!
>>>>>>>> > *From:* Lewis Bergman <mailto:lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Again, it is hard to believe that the field, both sides, is the
>>>>>>>> best
>>>>>>>> > this country can do.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your
>>>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Hotspots and Game Systems

[Steve D]

Gotten fairly frequent when the guests are renting "by the month".
 (Construction workers, for example.)  They want to hook up their xbox or
whatever.

-Steve D

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:

> Just got off the phone with Hotel Management getting one bypassed through
> the hotspot authentication.  Apparently people bring their gaming systems
> to hotels.  I guess could make up a big laminated sheet with a Static IP
> Addresses that's bypassed in the hotspot setup, then they would have to
> manually enter that in and it would be bypassed.
>
> When they called me, the guest had already entered in the hotel WAN IP
> into the xbox, (I guess they got it from another device that was connected)
> but didn't know the subnet or Gateway.  The initial call was 'Give me the
> Gateway address for a guest to use'  before I could figure out what they
> were actually trying to do.
>
>
> On 3/18/2016 6:38 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote:
>
> Is this something you run into frequently?
>
> I had no idea this was a thing.
> On Mar 18, 2016 6:37 PM, "Nate Burke" <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote:
>
>> For those of you doing hotels, or anything with a Hotspot portal page.
>> How do you handle people who want to hook up gaming systems? From what I
>> understand, you can't open a browser unless it can connect to the 
>> network, so it will never be able to click the 'accept' button on the
>> proxied webpage.  Do you manually enter in IP Addresses, or bypass MAC's,
>> or just outlaw them alltogether?
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?

[Steve D]

I don't know about going through rock, but our LTE gear (not just Telrad,
also Huawei) does go through stuff pretty good.  One of my bosses replaced
his 900 ptp with an lte cpe and it's been been than ever for him - he has a
ridge between him and the tower.  He's tried a few different equipment over
the years too.  That's what really sold us on LTE.

That said, whether it'd work worth a damn with your restrictions on 3.65 is
a good question.  We are using licensed spectrum with a nice healthy tx
power...

The gear and the tech are solid.  It's the sales people being sales people
that cloud everything.  We're waiting on a new core (as we won't be using
Telrad's since they have zero desire to support compatibility with other
venders) so right now our Compacts are in wimax mode still.

-Steve D

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 8:58 AM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
wrote:

> You should see the pictures and such that get posted around.  The NLOS
> I've seen is freaking sweet.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 11:57 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> Didn’t make the connection between that LTE and the stuff Patrick was
>> pushing.  So Andreas, does do all that super fantastic NLOS stuff Patrick
>> was promising?
>>
>> *From:* Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 9:52 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?
>>
>> Andreas from Silo Wireless posted yesterday about their experience with
>> it.  I assume that was the Telrad LTE product, evolved from Alvarion WiMAX.
>>
>> *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 10:35 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?
>>
>> Remember the days of posting about the works through solid rock product
>> he was pitching.  Which product was that and did the testing ever prove out?
>>
>> *From:* Forrest Christian (List Account) <li...@packetflux.com>
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 9:22 AM
>> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?
>>
>>
>> Actually it shows an end date for telrad, followed by a new job entry
>> which doesn't give much info.
>> On Feb 12, 2016 9:18 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Patrick’s Linkedin profile doesn’t seem to mention Telrad, so maybe
>>> something did change?
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 10:09 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?
>>>
>>> What was the product he was so hot on a while back?  Did it ever pan out?
>>>
>>> *From:* Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com>
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 12, 2016 8:46 AM
>>> *To:* Animal Farm <af@afmug.com>
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?
>>>
>>> i recently sent patrick an email and it bounced... hmmm
>>>
>>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 11:29 AM, Jaime Solorza <
>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lewis you owe me some dry cleaning... I spit out my coffee.. "Israeli
>>>> hit squad "MOSSAD
>>>> On Feb 11, 2016 6:22 PM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> That is quite the thorough explanation and I sincerely appreciate it.
>>>>> The effort to describe that in detail was great thanks. I have mixed
>>>>> feelings about an issue that requires an Israeli hit squad to come fix it
>>>>> but I assume that was on 3.65 and not true licensed. I am not sure if I
>>>>> would spend the money if I couldn't do it on
>>>>> licensed.
>>>>> But all together a solid recommendation.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016, 4:12 PM Andreas Wiatowski <
>>>>> andr...@silowireless.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I’ll pipe in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We were/are an early adopter of LTE.  I can tell you that buying into
>>>>>> the Telrad system has been a very good move for us.  As of today, almost
>>>>>> 450 Subscribers and 30 sectors deployed in 2.3Ghz and 3.65Ghz.  We have a
>>>>>> total build commitment consisting of

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad feedback, worth the $?

[Steve D]

Well, there is nothing to say that it won't "Just Work".  We just don't
believe in paying for a support contract where the vendor can say "too bad
so sad" because we don't have all our eggs in their basket.

In this case, because it's standards-based and interoperable, we're going
with a vendor that says it is going to honor the interoperable bit.

-Steve D

On Fri, Feb 12, 2016 at 9:39 AM, George Skorup <geo...@cbcast.com> wrote:

> But I thought it was all standards-based and interoperable. Say it ain't
> so.
>
>
> On 2/12/2016 11:32 AM, Steve D wrote:
>
>> The gear and the tech are solid.  It's the sales people being sales
>> people that cloud everything.  We're waiting on a new core (as we won't be
>> using Telrad's since they have zero desire to support compatibility with
>> other venders) so right now our Compacts are in wimax mode still.
>>
>
>

[AFMUG] Check-in service for field technicians

[Steve D]

Hey folks,

I want to evaluate some different options for field tech's to check-in
with.  Right now, we rely on our support staff to not "forget" that a tech
missed his ETA to return home at night, but it does happen sometimes.  I'd
like to eliminate human error.  Ideally, something that they can phone
into, email, sms or website.  And obviously, if a check-in is missed,
automated notifications are sent to a list of contacts, escalating with
time.

Anyone use anything like this and have recommendations?

-Steve D

Re: [AFMUG] Looks like more companies want to be WISPs

[Steve D]

I couldn't tell you actually.  We have ours hanging outside of FCC
jurisdiction.  That'd be kind of an important distinction though I suppose.

-Steve D

On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 10:53 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Interesting, apparently the guy I talked to from Huawei didn't know what
> he was talking about... or he didn't know what I was talking about... is it
> FCC certified?
>
> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 12:41 PM, Steve D <bigd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Huawei doesn't make gear for the 3.65ghz band.
>>>
>>
>> They sure do.  :)
>>
>> -Steve D
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I suspect that it's supposed to be 2.5ghz... as far as I know, Huawei
>>> doesn't make gear for the 3.65ghz band.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That can’t possibly be what they mean by acquiring 50 MHz of licensed
>>>> spectrum in all their markets from a private party, can it?
>>>>
>>>> Did they also acquire an elevator pass from a high school senior?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2016 6:43 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looks like more companies want to be WISPs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It’s all in the marketing and presentation to the investors.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Rory
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 5:16 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looks like more companies want to be WISPs
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> i think they are touting that they have a nation wide NN license for
>>>> the 3.65-3.7Ghz band (like the rest of us lol).
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Jaime Solorza <
>>>> losguyswirel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> says 3.5GHz>>.is that correct?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Jaime Solorza
>>>>
>>>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>>>
>>>> 915-861-1390
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.telecompetitor.com/infiniti-broadband-to-bring-broadband-wireless-to-10-markets/
>>>> ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>>>
>>>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>>>
>>>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>>>
>>>> *r...@triadwireless.net <r...@triadwireless.net>*
>>>>
>>>> *www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>*
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> “When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out at the field
>>>> and it's one big glove.” - Vance Law
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Looks like more companies want to be WISPs

[Steve D]

>
> Huawei doesn't make gear for the 3.65ghz band.
>

They sure do.  :)

-Steve D

On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I suspect that it's supposed to be 2.5ghz... as far as I know, Huawei
> doesn't make gear for the 3.65ghz band.
>
> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 6:49 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>
>> That can’t possibly be what they mean by acquiring 50 MHz of licensed
>> spectrum in all their markets from a private party, can it?
>>
>> Did they also acquire an elevator pass from a high school senior?
>>
>>
>> *From:* Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2016 6:43 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looks like more companies want to be WISPs
>>
>>
>> It’s all in the marketing and presentation to the investors.
>>
>>
>>
>> Rory
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Sean Heskett
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, February 2, 2016 5:16 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Looks like more companies want to be WISPs
>>
>>
>>
>> i think they are touting that they have a nation wide NN license for the
>> 3.65-3.7Ghz band (like the rest of us lol).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> says 3.5GHz>>.is that correct?
>>
>>
>> Jaime Solorza
>>
>> Wireless Systems Architect
>>
>> 915-861-1390
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>> http://www.telecompetitor.com/infiniti-broadband-to-bring-broadband-wireless-to-10-markets/
>> ?
>>
>>
>>
>> *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*
>>
>> *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*
>>
>> *602-426-0542 <602-426-0542>*
>>
>> *r...@triadwireless.net <r...@triadwireless.net>*
>>
>> *www.triadwireless.net <http://www.triadwireless.net/>*
>>
>>
>>
>> “When you're in a slump, it's almost as if you look out at the field and
>> it's one big glove.” - Vance Law
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] To Cambium With Love - Replace the bad ePMP units.

[Steve D]

Just throwing this out there, but don't the epmp's have a small heater in
them that could be turning on when it's cold, drawing additional power?  I
recall it was supposed to pre-heat components to avoid freezeup on first
boot but I can't recall if that's the only time they run or not.

-Steve D

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 1:44 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
li...@packetflux.com> wrote:

> I do want to clarify one item:
>
> This is not necessarily related to the cambium DRAM issue.   I don't want
> to claim that problem, since this isn't the same thing.   This is more of
> an issue where you have ePMP's which seem to start having power-related
> issues.   If moving to a 30V brick makes your problem go away, then the
> issue I describe below probably is your issue.  If moving to a higher
> voltage doesn't fix the issue then this probably doesn't relate to your
> issue.  Regardless, it is my intent to recommend that my customers move to
> 48V as soon as I confirm that this seems to fix at least a decent number of
> the problems without causing others.
>
> Unfortunately this might be a case of the cold weather aggravating two
> separate issues (or for that matter, the cold weather causing increased
> current consumption in the ePMP, which then requires a higher voltage to
> operate correctly).
>
> -forrest
>
> On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 12:43 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) <
> li...@packetflux.com> wrote:
>
>> A bit of an update from the PacketFlux side.
>>
>> Late this afternoon I received a ticket from Tyson in relation to these
>> issues.  In particular, sync from a PacketFlux SyncInjector dropping off on
>> an ePMP when it's cold.  I have spent a bit of time this evening
>> investigating this issue.  The following is a summary of what I found.
>> It's a bit long-winded so that those experiencing the problems can
>> understand my current working theory and help me figure out if this is the
>> case.
>>
>> WARNING:  The following is based on a limited amount of testing with a
>> single ePMP with no traffic and no clients and on a bench.   This is likely
>> the best case scenario.  The field is only going to be worse.
>>
>> The setup is as follows:
>>
>> ePMP 1000 GPS AP, with no GPS hockey puck attached, connected to a
>> Gigabit Syncinjector (Rev H and Rev I - I have a special one with a port of
>> each 'type' ;-) ).   I am powering the injector with a variable power
>> supply so I can vary the voltages in.  The AP is connected to the Injector
>> with ~100m of CAT5 cable.   The Antenna connectors have terminators on
>> them, the AP is in transmit mode, but isn't passing any traffic since there
>> are no clients.
>>
>> When feeding the injector with 24V, I get about 23V at the AP.   This is
>> pretty consistent with what I would expect in this situation.   The AP
>> seems to work fine, at least on the bench and without doing any real
>> work.   However, as the voltage drops, things start to get weird:
>>
>> At around 22V in, (21V at the AP), Sync becomes flaky.  This is
>> consistent on both H and I version ports on the injector.Sometimes it
>> works, sometimes it doesn't.   Note that 22V is the bottom of the rated
>> voltage inputs for the ePMP.
>>
>> At around 20.5V in (19.5V at the AP), the radio just turns off.   It
>> won't turn back on until around 22V.
>>
>> Now here's where some total speculation comes to play.   On the bench,
>> this unit is drawing around 3W.  Let's assume that under load, and when
>> temperatures are cold, this unit draws closer to 6W.  This would double the
>> current, and quadruple the voltage drop.  Now, assume 24V in, this puts you
>> at around 20V in at the AP, which is about the turnoff point.   Remember
>> this is on 100m of wire, and a total speculation about a the power draw of
>> a cold, under load AP.  But the point is valid, regardless of the cause -
>> if the circuit resistance when combined with the power load causes a low
>> enough voltage at the AP, weird things will happen.  And since weird things
>> seem to start to happen around 22V, there just isn't much headroom at
>> 24V.
>>
>> This explains why things work well at 30V.
>>
>> For those who are having this problem I'd recommend trying increasing the
>> voltage into the SyncInjector.   The Revision H injectors can safely handle
>> up to around 56V or so.   Assuming all of the radios on an injector are
>> either ePMP or the newer 450i's, using 56V into a SyncInjector is perfectly
>> acceptable and the ePMP's are rated up to 56V as well.
>>
>> So the summary:   Try a 48VDC voltag

Re: [AFMUG] 900mhz PMP450i with dual polarity panel

[Steve D]

Oh... very nice... good day to be checking the list...

Care to share any details as to who makes it and how the cost compares to
the yagi?

Any testing dual slant vs h/v to see if the cambium was applying the same
secret sauce that let's them do that with the 3.65 450i sm?  (Not sure if
this was brought up elsewhere.)

-Steve D

On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 2:36 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Fresh from China :)
>
> I tested it at two different customer's houses, and signal levels were
> consistently within 1db of the Cambium yagis. Not quite as clean of a
> package as the Cambium antennas, but it works and it's not a yagi... I did
> have to replace the bracket to make it dual slant though.
>

[AFMUG] CTM-Express quick question

[Steve D]

Is there any management of these devices?  Got one in a corner of our
network that's been running fine for years, but it appears to have a canopy
POE going to it to power it I guess?  Field tech is asking if we should
patch a cable from the POE to our switch or just leave it.  Only one of
these in our network and we completely forgot it was even there.

-Steve D

Re: [AFMUG] Expanding foam or styrofoam glued to rear of solar panels

[Steve D]

I couldn't talk the powers that be into something super permanent like
foam, but we are trying them vertical this winter which has worked as
expected in keeping snow off.

That said, it hasn't mattered for two of the sites that have been under a
thick cloud for the last six weeks.  The fog is just ridiculous this
winter, usually after a couple weeks of it in December, we get blasted with
cold and clear for a bit which gets us out of that first slump.  :(

-Steve D

On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 3:20 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> 20 years.
> Styrofoam glued did not last long.  Maybe  a year or two.  But the
> frothpak foam has been there for years and years.
>
> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, January 08, 2016 3:43 PM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Expanding foam or styrofoam glued to rear of solar
> panels
>
> Those of you who have done this for snow/ice buildup reasons, how are your
> panel temperatures in mid summer, and how are the panels holding up?  How
> many years has the insulation been in place?
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450i update with better results :-)

[Steve D]

I'm very curious to hear how reliable the connection stays in some of these
tough shots (be it interference or nlos).  I'm just tired of dealing with
nlos shots that install beautiful and a couple months later they're
dropping left and right and reg and re-reg counters start flying through
the roof.  If they can just down modulate and stay going, that'd make me
happy.

-Steve D

On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Jeff Broadwick - Lists <jeffl...@att.net>
wrote:

> A lot of the our backlog cleared out just before year end.  Waiting mostly
> for antennas to fill the rest.
>
> Jeff Broadwick
> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
> 312-205-2519 Office
> 574-220-7826 Cell
> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>
> On Jan 5, 2016, at 8:03 PM, Gino Villarini <ginovi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> still waiting on my kit
>
> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 6:33 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Its pretty impressive...
>> On Jan 5, 2016 2:31 PM, "Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> We finally got our 900mhz 450i put up... so far, I'm impressed.
>>> We only have two clients on it at this point, but if the link tests are
>>> anything to go by, it's a bit better than the PMP100 it replaced...
>>>
>>> VCDownlinkUplinkAggregatePacket TransmitPacket
>>> Receive
>>> ActualActual
>>> 1895.00 Mbps14.60 Mbps109.61 Mbps,  7916 pps68661 (6866
>>> pps)10501(1050 pps)
>>>
>>>
>>> VCDownlinkUplinkAggregatePacket TransmitPacket
>>> Receive
>>> ActualActual
>>> 1931.93 Mbps6.50 Mbps38.43 Mbps,  2767 pps23034 (2303
>>> pps)4645(464 pps)
>>>
>>>
>>> I have it running on a 20mhz channel right now, just because I can
>>> (there isn't any other 900mhz in the area), the second connection is a
>>> little on the weak side because of some terrain issues, but it actually
>>> wasn't too much worse running on a 10mhz channel (about 30mbps aggregate,
>>> if I remember right). It's not the best time of year to be testing NLOS
>>> connections, but signal levels are pretty close to what they were with the
>>> PMP100, so I have a pretty good idea what to expect... I'm hoping that dual
>>> slant will cut through the leaves a bit better than single H-pol did, but
>>> even if signal levels are only as good as the PMP100 was in the summer,
>>> this is going to be very usable.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 8:24 PM, Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> That's pretty good, I was expecting an average of more like 18-20ms.
>>>> The occasional spike to 250 for 1 or 2 seconds at a time is not unexpected
>>>> at 900MHz with noise and retransmits.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 4:36 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> SM is bridged and has an RFC1918 IP.  Test would have to be run on-net.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just tried a few ping tests from the (Cisco) tower router.  100
>>>>> pings typically comes back around 4/10/35 for min/avg/max.  I ran 1000
>>>>> pings though and got 4/11/48, ran another 1000 and got 4/12/248.  Zero
>>>>> packet loss, but apparently noise can cause an occasional latency spike,
>>>>> probably due to upstream.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
>>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, December 19, 2015 6:15 PM
>>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 900 MHz 450i update with better results :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Any chance of running 'mtr' against the CPE IP of house #2 and leaving
>>>>> it for a few hours?  I'm curious what the min/max/average latency looks
>>>>> like.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 9:23 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So yesterday I did some tweaking on the sync parameters and was able
>>>>>> to get better results.  I'll put the details in a second post, but I 
>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>> to update the grim picture I painted the other day.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As initially set up, I was only getting 1X MIMO-A, even on a 5 MHz
>>>>>> channel and after trying a bunch of frequencies, and the SMs would not
>>>>>> reliably stay 

Re: [AFMUG] downgrading pmp100 radio

[Steve D]

Last summer, using whatever was the latest version of CNUT at that time, I
was doing just that, downgrading from 12.1 and 13.1.3 to 11.2 no problem.

You're saying you can go up but not down?  I wish I could tell you what
version of CNUT I was running, but I'm certain it was brand new in June or
July.  Haven't needed to do this since though and have long since moved up
to latest version of CNUT again.

-Steve D

On Wed, Dec 16, 2015 at 12:54 PM, Craig Schmaderer <cr...@skywaveconnect.com
> wrote:

> I have never had to do this, but I need to downgrade a p10 sm that is
> running 12.1 to 11.2 and I can not get it to work.  Maybe I am doing it
> wrong.  I just load the 11.2 package and hit upgrade right?  I get some
> sort of ftp error after cnut does say it starts the file transfer?  I
> upgraded to the newest cnut, same issue, I upgrade the sm to 13.1.3 and I
> still cant downgrade it?  Am I missing something?   Thanks, Craig.
>
>
>
> *Craig R. Schmaderer*
>
> *CEO | Skywave Wireless, Inc.*
>
> *Ph: 402-372-1975 <402-372-1975> | Fax: 402-372-1058 <402-372-1058>*
>
> *Direct: 402-372-1052 <402-372-1052>*
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Tranzeo

[Steve D]

I think we took four pickup loads of cpe to recycling this summer.

We still have way too much of that crap deployed.  Ever year, we
replace more and more of it though.

-Steve D

On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 8:44 AM, That One Guy /sarcasm <
thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:

> took over the last tranzeo backhaul last week with ubnt, it croaked at
> anything more than 13mb had them both up on the same path, same 20mhz
> channel, the ubnt is running actual throughput of 70 even with the other
> one up. ubnt may be a dirty whore, but shes my dirty whore
>
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Jay Weekley <par...@cyberbroadband.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Ours went to the local salvage yard.
>>
>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>>> I can't imagine why you would want them, even if they were free.  Ubnt
>>> is so cheap and works so much better.
>>>
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2015 at 11:10 AM, Justin Aldridge <
>>> jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net <mailto:jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net>>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I have a bunch i would be interested in getting rid of. I didnt
>>> know if someone might need them.
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>> *From: *"Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com
>>> <mailto:losguyswirel...@gmail.com>>
>>> *To: *"Animal Farm" <af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>>
>>> *Sent: *Monday, December 14, 2015 9:58:52 AM
>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Tranzeo
>>>
>>> I brought down several ptp links down last week for a Wisp.   I
>>> can check to see if he is selling  or giving them away...
>>>
>>> On Dec 14, 2015 8:49 AM, "Justin Aldridge"
>>> <jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net
>>> <mailto:jaldri...@totalhighspeed.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is anyone still using Tranzeo equipment.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Justin Aldridge
>>> Total Highspeed
>>> 417-300-3534 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- Justin Aldridge
>>> Total Highspeed
>>> 417-300-3534 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team
> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.
>

Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900MHz

[Steve D]

SM (which doesn't look like it'd survive the fish tank test) with goofy SMA
things on the top:
[image: Inline image 1]

AP:
[image: Inline image 2]

-Steve D

On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 8:12 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Is this the same case as the 450 AP?
>
> *From:* Sriram Chaturvedi <sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:48 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900MHz
>
>
> The "i" stands for "Industrial" due to the IP66/67 rating of the 450i
> product line. Here's something the development team did to showcase that:
> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/PMP-450i-SM-in-a-Fish-Tank/m-p/45964#U45964
>
>
>
> The 900 MHz 450 SM is a plastic/metal combo case with SMA connectors. I
> remember someone posting a picture of it here a few weeks ago. The 900 MHz
> 450i AP is similar to the 5 GHz 450i AP. More details (with pictures and
> spec sheets) available here:
> http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/access/pmp-450/
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Sriram
>
> --
> *From:* Af <af-boun...@afmug.com> on behalf of Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 25, 2015 9:42 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900MHz
>
> 450i is next generation.  I don't think they thought about the integrated
> part.  It's the cool thing to do - BMW i8, iPhone, iQ, etc.
>
> I would assume N connectors but I don't specifically remember.  I remember
> the 450i 900 looking just like the 450i 5700
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 10:39 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> The “i” at the end would lead me to believe they are  integrated.
>> Cambium has a bunch of different cases now, hard to keep  up.  So they are
>> in the old plastic FSK case with two coaxes coming out?  N connectors?
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 25, 2015 8:34 AM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900MHz
>>
>> The same case they're always in, Pinky!
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 25, 2015 at 10:33 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What case are the SMs in?
>>>
>>> *From:* Jeff Broadwick - Lists <jeffl...@att.net>
>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 25, 2015 6:28 AM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900MHz
>>>
>>> The APs are $2316 and the SMs are around $240 each (street price).
>>> Sector antennas are about the same price as the other Cambium sectors
>>>
>>> Jeff Broadwick
>>> ConVergence Technologies, Inc.
>>> 312-205-2519 Office
>>> 574-220-7826 Cell
>>> jbroadw...@converge-tech.com
>>>
>>> On Nov 24, 2015, at 11:45 PM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> How much are the radios?
>>> On Nov 24, 2015 9:40 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> MSRP is $89.
>>>> Not difficult to figure out street price.
>>>>
>>>> I can get two TY-900s for $280.  But spatial diversity!  And gold!
>>>>
>>>> Actually, I wish there was a 12 inch 10 dBi panel, like a dual pol
>>>> version of this:
>>>> https://www.tessco.com/products/displayProductInfo.do?sku=474662
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2015 10:13 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900MHz
>>>>
>>>> When someone discovers the street price of this thing, please let me
>>>> know.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Sriram Chaturvedi <sriram.chaturv...@cambiumnetworks.com>
>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 24, 2015 6:44 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] PMP450i 900MHz
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi Eric,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes. We offer an official Cambium dual polarity yagi. More info here:
>>>> http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/products/accessories/pmp450-900mhz-directional-antenna/
>>>>
>>>> <ht

Re: [AFMUG] OT: 11foot8

[Steve D]

Yeah, they can even do sensors that start up the really bright flashy
lights if you're too tall.  Won't fix stupid though.

Eventually something is going to hit this bridge hard enough to force
someone to fix this properly, it's only a matter of time.

-Steve D

On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 7:48 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> If nothing else, they need to build one of those structures that dangle
> chains that will make noise before you get to the bridge.
>
> *From:* Eric Kuhnke <eric.kuh...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, October 22, 2015 7:03 AM
> *To:* af@afmug.com
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT: 11foot8
>
> From what I've read, it's a railway, and it was there first...  The work
> required to rip up the track and rebuild the grade and overpass would be
> cost prohibitive.
>
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2015 at 4:26 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> Since this is apparently a common occurrence, why haven't they fixed the
>> underpass?
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> --
>> *From: *"Eric Kuhnke" <e...@kuhnke-international.com>
>> *To: *af@afmug.com
>> *Sent: *Thursday, October 22, 2015 4:53:43 AM
>> *Subject: *[AFMUG] OT: 11foot8
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/user/yovo68/videos
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Radwin Jet. Anyone using it yet? Thoughts on performance?

[Steve D]

This is the perfect deployment scenario for the radwin 5000.  You'll get
that upload.  Play with R-planner (or get a sales rep to do it for you if
learning its not-as-intuitive-as-it-looks-like-it-should-be interface isn't
getting you anywhere) and, just like cambium's link planner, if you don't
get what the tools says in the real world, you're probably doing it wrong.
 (Well, not including unforeseen obstructions and such of course.)

I have no experience with the Jet "beamforming" but the 5000 series gear
it's based on has been stone reliable for us.

Everything in these radios is controlled by "time slots".  It's a bit
different than cambium slots.  Time slots are limited in the radios, but it
guarantees that radio has that much bandwidth when it needs it (think of it
as your CIR setting).  They've since released an update that lets you use
more bandwidth if other slots are not in use, (which we investigated to see
if it we could abuse for a residential-style oversubscription - will work
once we can connect more than 32 radios...) but once you get used to what
they've done, it works well in industrial/commercial type scenarios.

-Steve D


On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 9:09 AM, Sam Lambie <samtaos...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Looking to deliver to 4 locations with 4 HD Cameras on each location. Need
> probably about 25-35 mbps UPLOAD per location. This will be in a small
> plaza in Taos NM
>
> Sam
>
> --
> --
> *Sam Lambie*
> Taosnet Wireless Tech.
> 575-758-7598 Office
> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com>
>

Re: [AFMUG] The dreaded annual "how to keep snow and ice off my solar panels" thread

[Steve D]

Vertical panels is something we're experimenting with as well.  Started
ignoring "optimum" angles years ago and pushed the panels as steep as they
would go with existing hardware (about 80-85) but it's amazing what will
still stick.  Last winter we had a freezing rain that built up ice on the
bottom metal lip around the glass and the wet sticky snow that followed
built up 4-5 inches on top of that, even at those angles.  (Last year was
honestly the worst year for our solar sites in the last few years.)

We're in the process of beefing up and extending the angle brackets for the
racks at two sites so that we can go all the way vertical.  I think snow
will be fine at one of the low elevation sites, but the high elevation I
still half expect to see them covered in hoar frost.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2015 at 1:17 PM, Eric Kuhnke <e...@kuhnke-international.com>
wrote:

> If you're off grid and at latitude 35N or higher...  The one thing you
> should care about is cumulative kWh production in December and January.
>
> Try putting the panels at an 85 or 90 degree tilt (yes, really) facing due
> south. You will produce a lot less in June/July but your winter production
> will be maximized. This also has the effect of ameliorating snow and ice
> buildup thanks to gravity.
>
> The US DoE NREL and other sources have a lot of research on latitude vs.
> angle tilt of solar panels. Ignore everything intended for gridtie
> applications and stuff like "tilt the solar panels at the same angle as
> your latitude".  There are some online calculators like pvwatts that will
> show you your December and January production for a 45 degree tilt vs. an
> 85 degree tilt.
>
>
>
> On 9/19/15 11:05 PM, Steve D wrote:
>
>> Maybe it's Saturday night exhaustion talking, but piping the exhaust from
>> a standby generator toward the back of solar panels a bad idea?  I'd expect
>> it to not put heat on the panels in the summer except it's weekly exercise
>> cycle but that shouldn't be too bad?  LP too so shouldn't be any soot.  Or
>> would this just create one little hole of open panel and a pile of ice?
>> Bad in general for the panels?
>>
>> If I did this again, I'd put the damn thing directly under the panels...
>> these Onan's get stinking hot.  My little "cool running", comparatively
>> speaking, portable yamaha's will melt a two foot radius of snow around them
>> if they run for a good length of time, all this heat going to waste!  The
>> Onan would probably clear the whole rack if it was sitting right below it.
>>
>> Grumble grumble... snow... something, something, curse words...
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Steve D
>>
>>
>

[AFMUG] The dreaded annual "how to keep snow and ice off my solar panels" thread

[Steve D]

Maybe it's Saturday night exhaustion talking, but piping the exhaust from a
standby generator toward the back of solar panels a bad idea?  I'd expect
it to not put heat on the panels in the summer except it's weekly exercise
cycle but that shouldn't be too bad?  LP too so shouldn't be any soot.  Or
would this just create one little hole of open panel and a pile of ice?
Bad in general for the panels?

If I did this again, I'd put the damn thing directly under the panels...
these Onan's get stinking hot.  My little "cool running", comparatively
speaking, portable yamaha's will melt a two foot radius of snow around them
if they run for a good length of time, all this heat going to waste!  The
Onan would probably clear the whole rack if it was sitting right below it.

Grumble grumble... snow... something, something, curse words...

Cheers,

Steve D

Re: [AFMUG] The dreaded annual "how to keep snow and ice off my solarpanels" thread

[Steve D]

Anyone got any pics of insulated panels side by side with uninsulated
panels?  We tried taping a piece of styrofoam to the back of one once, but
it never seemed to make enough of a difference (especially for the hoar
frost that plagues our mountain tops).  Bosses aren't convinced the mess of
sprayfoam would be worthwhile.

I enjoyed reading your testing with the different sprayers Chuck.  The
antifreeze was fairly expensive though if I recall?

-Steve D

On Sun, Sep 20, 2015 at 11:36 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> I did lots of experiments about 15 years ago adding heat to panels with
> various methods.  Heat tape,  hot air blowers, exhaust, all kinds of ideas
> were worked on.
>
> I came up with two things that work.  First, lots of insulation on the
> backs.  Spray foam worked extra good.  It  helps to speed up snow/ice
> sliding/melting off when the sun comes out.
>
> Second thing that works is the application of antifreeze.  Propylene
> glycol is environmentally safe for the wildlife.   Sprayer at the top works
> pretty good.  We rigged up one tank that was pressurized with air and had
> solenoid valve that was turned on via telemetry.  Takes almost no energy to
> pump.  Did CO2 pressurization too but that will carbonate the antifreeze
> and it doesn’t spray as well.
>
> You can vent the tank and have it drain back if you want.  I also tried a
> deicing product made from beet juice.  It didn’t work too well.  Plugged up
> the spray nozzle.
>
> *From:* Steve D <bigd...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 20, 2015 12:05 AM
> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject:* [AFMUG] The dreaded annual "how to keep snow and ice off my
> solarpanels" thread
>
> Maybe it's Saturday night exhaustion talking, but piping the exhaust from
> a standby generator toward the back of solar panels a bad idea?  I'd expect
> it to not put heat on the panels in the summer except it's weekly exercise
> cycle but that shouldn't be too bad?  LP too so shouldn't be any soot.  Or
> would this just create one little hole of open panel and a pile of ice?
> Bad in general for the panels?
>
> If I did this again, I'd put the damn thing directly under the panels...
> these Onan's get stinking hot.  My little "cool running", comparatively
> speaking, portable yamaha's will melt a two foot radius of snow around them
> if they run for a good length of time, all this heat going to waste!  The
> Onan would probably clear the whole rack if it was sitting right below it.
>
> Grumble grumble... snow... something, something, curse words...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Steve D
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] Field Service Bulletin - PMP 450 SM

[Steve D]

Just a bump... was this ever sorted out?  Contained to just one batch of
5.8 radios as listed?  I know I've seen reports in other frequencies but
seemed less widespread?  No mention from anyone in a while...  Just want to
know before our next order...

-Steve D

On Fri, Aug 21, 2015 at 6:37 PM, Matt Mangriotis <
matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com> wrote:

> I wanted to get this out to everyone before the weekend.  We found the
> root cause and identified the affected units by serial number.
>
>
>
> See the attached Field Service Bulletin, and you can post any further
> comment or issue in the thread that discusses it here:
> http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Field-Service-Bulletin-ADI-Catalina-R1-Chip-not-supported/m-p/43211#M1106
>
>
>
> Apologies for the pain this issue has caused.
>
>
>
> *Matt Mangriotis*
>
> Senior Product Manager
> * Cambium Networks*
> 3800 Golf Road, Suite 360
>
> Rolling Meadows, IL 60008
>
>
>
> www.cambiumnetworks.com
> *O: *847-439-6379
>
> *M: *630-308-9394
> * E: *m...@cambiumnetworks.com
>
> [image: CN_logo_horizontal_blueIcon_blackName]
>
>
>
> Join the Conversation
>
> Cambium Networks Community Forum <http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/>
>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] bigcommerce success

[Steve D]

Possible to click on pic's so that it just loads the pic in full
resolution?  Tough to describe, but the fancy javascript thing breaks and
doesn't let me zoom in when I'm looking on my tablet.  Some sites when you
click on the pic again, you can open just it in another tab so that there
is no javascript resizing fail.

As an example:
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/09/help-there-is-a-seething-mass-of-snakes-under-my-desk/

Click a picture, it zooms it out like yours, then has a little + in the
bottom right to click again and it loads just the picture.

In the case of my tablet though, it won't let me move over to the bottom
right part of the page so it'd have to be top left.

All in all, big improvement.

-Steve D

On Sun, Sep 6, 2015 at 11:16 AM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:

> Thanks.  Don’t know why I didn’t do this a long time ago.  I guess you get
> lazy.
>
> *From:* Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, September 06, 2015 12:05 PM
> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bigcommerce success
>
> Very nice! I like it, much easier to find stuff than on your old site.
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 11:55 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>
>> I figured it out.  They really do give you full control.
>>
>> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 05, 2015 9:29 PM
>> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bigcommerce success
>>
>> Thanks.
>> I don’t yet know how to remove the checkout stuff.
>> But at least it helps you see a thumb of all the stuff where my old site
>> didn’t.
>>
>> *From:* Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 05, 2015 8:39 PM
>> *To:* af <af@afmug.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bigcommerce success
>>
>> So you're not selling anything directly on this site, right? Can you
>> remove the shopping cart links? that might be confusing to people that
>> don't know better...
>>
>> otherwise, it looks excellent!
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 6:33 PM, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Nope, not as long as those wonderful dealers keep doing their job.
>>>
>>> *From:* Chuck Hogg <ch...@shelbybb.com>
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 05, 2015 5:23 PM
>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bigcommerce success
>>>
>>> Looks good...so when are you going to start selling?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Chuck
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So will the online store be in addition to the “How to Buy”
>>>> distributors?
>>>>
>>>> And apparently you still sell the 2 ft Optics series?  Am I remembering
>>>> wrong, I thought the dish was identical for 5, 11, 18 and 23 GHz, the only
>>>> difference was the feedtube.  Does the dish come with a feedtube?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Sean Heskett <af...@zirkel.us>
>>>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 05, 2015 3:37 PM
>>>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] bigcommerce success
>>>>
>>>> Looks great bud!
>>>>
>>>> It's missing one thing tho...the pic of you hanging from the top of the
>>>> telephone pole ;)
>>>>
>>>> -Sean
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, September 5, 2015, Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I know my datasheets (link on each product page) are not yet working
>>>>> but I think everything else is.
>>>>> Thanks for all the input everyone.
>>>>>
>>>>> You tell me, did I succeed in getting it to work?
>>>>>
>>>>> www.mccowntech.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

[Steve D]

That's the most likely scenario.  Any enthusiast knows damn well to keep
away.  The problem is that they've come down in price and become so easy to
use, that your average ignorant joe blow can fly around with one without
thinking about it.  I agree that following the thing home and having a chat
with the operator is the best course of action.  Still... by now these
issues have hit the news enough this summer that you'd think people would
wise up.  :(

On the other hand...
http://arstechnica.com/security/2015/08/parrot-drones-easily-taken-down-or-hijacked-researchers-demonstrate/

-Steve D

On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 2:36 PM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 They're probably just filming the fire and have no idea they're
 interfering with the operations.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

 Midwest Internet Exchange
 http://www.midwest-ix.com

 https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix
 --
 *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Monday, August 17, 2015 12:09:29 PM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

 Surprising people would mess with firefighters.

 I remember seeing a VW beetle someone parked in front of a fire hydrant,
 and there was a house fire.  The firefighters bashed out windows on both
 sides and ran a firehose through his car.  No doubt they could have picked
 it up and moved it, or called police to have it towed, but this was quicker
 and hopefully taught him a lesson.


 *From:* Steve D bigd...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Monday, August 17, 2015 11:56 AM
 *To:* af af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

 The particular fires are in southern BC along the US/Canada border from
 Osoyoos over to Rock Creek/Kettle Valley area.

 We've got a temporary service in place relayed from a neighboring WISP
 now.  It's not a lot, but it's something.  Another community north of there
 is completely in the dark due to the fires to the south... no phone lines,
 no power, not even cell.  Logistically, there's nothing we can do for this
 community right now either.  Reports indicate the power company is setting
 up a generator.

 30 homes were lost in Rock Creek so far, and then there's an effin' idiot
 flying a drone which has caused the air support for the fire to be grounded
 yesterday.  Now *THERE* is someone I hope the black suits find...

 -Steve D

 On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:30 AM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@ngc457.com wrote:

 Where are you at Steve?

 ryan

 --
 D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
 broadband | telco | colo | communities
 PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
 425-939-0047

 On Aug 16, 2015, at 12:52, Steve D bigd...@gmail.com wrote:

 We had a bad situation this week where wildfire took out our upstream's
 fiber in one valley which we relay wirelessly over to another valley.  We
 had calls from people angry that we weren't driving through the roadblocks
 to fix it.

 :(

 -Steve D

 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

 The last row are me during a thunderstorm.

 *From:* D. Ryan Spott rsp...@ngc457.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, August 16, 2015 2:07 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

 Normally these comics are just humor. The 'complain to your local
 congressman' is what got me to send it to this group.

 ryan

 eijjfgai.png

 --
 D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
 broadband | telco | colo | communities
 PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294425-939-0047

Re: [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

[Steve D]

The particular fires are in southern BC along the US/Canada border from
Osoyoos over to Rock Creek/Kettle Valley area.

We've got a temporary service in place relayed from a neighboring WISP
now.  It's not a lot, but it's something.  Another community north of there
is completely in the dark due to the fires to the south... no phone lines,
no power, not even cell.  Logistically, there's nothing we can do for this
community right now either.  Reports indicate the power company is setting
up a generator.

30 homes were lost in Rock Creek so far, and then there's an effin' idiot
flying a drone which has caused the air support for the fire to be grounded
yesterday.  Now *THERE* is someone I hope the black suits find...

-Steve D

On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 6:30 AM, D. Ryan Spott rsp...@ngc457.com wrote:

 Where are you at Steve?

 ryan

 --
 D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
 broadband | telco | colo | communities
 PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294
 425-939-0047

 On Aug 16, 2015, at 12:52, Steve D bigd...@gmail.com wrote:

 We had a bad situation this week where wildfire took out our upstream's
 fiber in one valley which we relay wirelessly over to another valley.  We
 had calls from people angry that we weren't driving through the roadblocks
 to fix it.

 :(

 -Steve D

 On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 12:30 PM, Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com wrote:

 The last row are me during a thunderstorm.

 *From:* D. Ryan Spott rsp...@ngc457.com
 *Sent:* Sunday, August 16, 2015 2:07 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com ; memb...@wispa.org
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] What to do when the Internet is down...

 Normally these comics are just humor. The 'complain to your local
 congressman' is what got me to send it to this group.

 ryan

 eijjfgai.png

 --
 D. Ryan Spott | NGC457, llc
 broadband | telco | colo | communities
 PO Box 1734 Sultan, WA 98294425-939-0047

Re: [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i

[Steve D]

And I can't read the spec's because the captcha is broken (or am I more
blind than I thought I was getting?)

Please get rid of that crap and put the damn spec sheets in section I can
log into with the support documents.

-Steve D

On Wed, Jul 15, 2015 at 7:55 AM, Matt Mangriotis 
matt.mangrio...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

  These are two different products, addressing different markets.  Cambium
 is hard at work getting new products released at an increased rate, all
 with the goal of providing solutions to help you guys build your businesses…



 Check out the Press Release and additional information on the 450i, which
 was just released this morning:



 http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/pressreleases



 Feel free to ask questions about it here, or on our forum site also:




 http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Introducing-Cambium-450i-PMP-and-PTP/m-p/42199#U42199



 Matt



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Mike Hammett
 *Sent:* Wednesday, July 15, 2015 8:33 AM
 *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] 450d vs. 450i



 Am I correct in that these two products were developed independently of
 each others' advancements? the 450d is just a regular 450 feature set in a
 dish form factor and the 450i is all of the new capabilities, but in the
 traditional form factors?







 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

  https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

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 https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange
 https://twitter.com/mdwestix

[AFMUG] Flush mount wifi jack

[Steve D]

Anyone used this company's gear?  This looks like a really neat little unit
for motels and stuff.  I can think of a few places where we installed a
wifi node right beside the jack... could have used this for an even cleaner
appearance.

http://www.newworldtelecom.com/NW-IW100GX-N

Question I'd have is whether it's crap or not.  Powered by 802.3af.  It
certainly caught my eye with neat-o factor.

Thoughts?

-Steve D

Re: [AFMUG] Canopy POE end of life :-/

[Steve D]

Is Cambium moving to an 802.3af future?  At some point I'd love to see
that.  Thought I read the 450i or d was doing that.  At least then we could
source our own parts if we wanted to.  I can't recall exactly, but I'm
pretty sure a camera I installed in the last year or two had a very similar
design to its POE, can't remember the brand though.

I'd like to see both form factors available for POE's though.  The old
style for residential stuff and the new one for any kind of enterprise
stuff where we need to mount things away from the switch or router.  The
old style never really fit in rack or wall mount systems and was tough to
keep tidy (relatively speaking).  And sometimes, trying to fit the wall
wart onto a full surge bar was a PITA.

However, the comment so easy a caveman could do it is so absolutely true
- you really had to go out of your way to plug it in wrong.

-Steve D

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 Dear Cambium,

 Why won't you let us buy the ACPSSW-13B POE if we still want to?

 It's very frustrating that we now have to change our install procedures
 AND our tech support procedures.  The new POE is also very cumbersome and
 prone to clients plugging things in backwards etc.

 Can you either keep selling them or give us access to the manufacturer so
 that we can still buy them?

 -Sean

Re: [AFMUG] [WISPA Members] Canopy POE end of life :-/

[Steve D]

I love the first QA response in the FAQ Ray...

Q: Why is this change happening?

A: The current Power Supply line is being retired.


Given how super helpful that was, I thought I'd help you guys out and fill
out the rest of the FAQ before you get inundated with more of these silly
questions.

Q:  Why is it being retired?
A:  Because we're making a change to a new Power Supply.

Q:  Why is this change happening and why is it being retired?
A:  The old Power Supply is being replaced with a new Power supply.

-Steve D

On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 3:16 PM, Sean Heskett af...@zirkel.us wrote:

 Hi Ray,

 Thanks for listening.

 So if one thing is guaranteed it's that someone is going to unplug the
 cables that are attached to the POE.  either a tech friend will be over to
 help them with their router, their kid will unplug it or they will just
 decide to unplug the cables for XYZ reason.  it's guaranteed to happen.

 With the old POE there was only one way to screw it up...unplug the cable
 from the radio outside.  usually they think they are smart and they plug
 the radio cable directly into their router.  sometimes they just leave it
 all unplugged.  But when we try to help them put it back together correctly
 here's how the conversation goes:

 agent: do you see the 3 flat black cable?
 client: yes
 agent: ok good, that goes into your computer or your router WAN port, just
 like it says on the sticker.
 client: ok got it plugged in
 agent: now take the cable coming from the outside, that goes into the port
 that says to radio (we also usually tape the ethernet cable to the
 ferrite bead with electrical tape so that they have to physically remove
 the tape to remove the cable)
 client: ok that's plugged in.
 agent: great now also make sure that the electrical plug is securely
 plugged into a wall outlet and that there is a red light on the plug.
 client: there's a red light and the internet is working again.  thanks!

 4 easy steps to success!

 with the new POE there are multiple ways to screw it up.  when they unplug
 everything the labels to put it back are Gigabit ethernet and gigabit
 ethernet+power.  so which one is supposed to go where?  well power seems
 better, maybe that goes into my computer...nope wrong.  but even better
 labeling won't help a whole lot because once they unplug the cables they
 usually toss them or do god knows what with them.  so here's the support
 call:

 agent: do you see the 3 flat black cable?
 client: i have no idea what you're talking about.  i have this weird brick
 that my 3 month old son is playing with.
 agent: ok you have the other style adapter.  do you see the cable coming
 from the outside radio?  plug that into gigabit ethernet+power.
 client: i don't see where that port is.
 agent: ok, flip the brick over and squint really hard, do you see the
 faint lettering on the brick.
 client: maybe, let me grab my glasses.  ok i think i see it...click.
 agent: great, now do you see the cable that goes to the back of your
 router.
 client: um yeah on the back of this link-see thing there's 5 or 6 wires.
 agent: ok there should be a port labeled internet.
 client: nope i don't see that.
 agent: is there one labeled WAN?
 client: yeah
 agent: ok the cable plugged into the WAN port of your router that goes
 into the Gigabit ethernet port on the brick.
 client: oh geeze, let me find my glasses again.
 agent: it's the only other port on the brick.
 client: ok got it.
 agent: great, now make sure the power cable is plugged into the wall
 outlet.
 client: yeah it's plugged into the wall.
 agent: ok now that it's all back together does the internet work.
 client: nope, can you just send someone?  i'm tired of all this plugging
 and unplugging.
 agent: well, lets just check the cables one more time.  Gigabit ethernet
 goes to WAN port on router, gigabit ethernet+power goes to the cable
 going outside to the radio.
 client: yes that's how i have it.  please just send someone.
 agent: is the power cord plugged into the wall outlet.
 client: yes
 agent: is the other end of the power cable plugged into the brick?
 client: well, um no, no it isn't.  you never said to do that!
 agent: ok well plug that into the brick.  does the internet work now?
 client: yeah i guess, why are all the cables so confusing?  i have
 wireless service, why do you have so many damn wires?

 catch my drift?  labeling would help a bit but honestly there's 6 points
 of failure on the new POE (2 ethernet ports and 2 sides to the power cable,
 plus the ethernet ports can be plugged in backward so really it's 6 things
 to check)  the old POE has 3 points of failure. is the ethernet cable from
 the radio unplugged?  is the wall wart unplugged? is the flat black cable
 unplugged?

 Thanks,

 Sean

 On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Ray Savich 
 ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com wrote:

  Check out the details at
 http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/PMP-450/Canopy-POE-end-of-life/m-p/41732

 Ray



 Join

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS

[Steve D]

Indeed, if we want to talk about standards, RFC 1925 covers this pretty
well.

https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1925

It has to work.

-Steve D

On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 9:17 PM, George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com wrote:

 I disagree. This is exactly what Canopy does. DSCP12/AF is sent over the
 HP channel. Look at the default DiffServ table and see for yourself. Many
 managed switches are set up exactly the same way, except they have more
 queues, and Canopy only has MIR and HP. Well, there's LP CIR, but lets not
 get into that. ePMP just has priority which I assume means priority over
 everything else.

 I need a way to correct stupid manufacturer's mistakes (Grandstream being
 the worst offender). Lots of their devices ALWAYS send SIP packets as
 DSCP12 and this CANNOT be changed. Or the other one I mentioned, the GXP
 phones have one DSCP setting and this changes both SIP and RTP. I'm
 disgusted with their stupidity, but unfortunately it has to be supported
 because those devices aren't going away.

 It's totally doable and Cambium could add it by default, saving me time
 configuring every radio with it. Or just make DiffServ on ePMP
 work/configure like Canopy.

 I don't care what's wrong or right. I care about shit working right now
 and customers not being pissy.

 So the burden falls on the network as usual. It's always our fault.
 Sometimes I just don't know how I haven't murdered people. If I drank, it
 would probably happen. And I'm finding myself agreeing with that one guy
 Steve every other day now. Stupidity has no limit.


 On 6/6/2015 10:31 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:

 Yo Cambium, you need to add DSCP 12 (Assured Forwarding) in addition to
 DSCP 46 (Expedited Forwarding) to the default VoIP priority
 configuration.

 That would be a mistake and the wrong thing to do.

  We're finding more devices sending SIP packets as AF and
 RTP as EF.

 When a device is mis-configured, why should the burden of dealing with
 that mis-configurtion as a default fall on another device

 There is plenty of flexibility to override the wrong setup of a device,
 if that is they way you want to correct it in your radios...
 (Which by all standards would be the wrong way to fix it...but more power
 to you).

 Two wrongs don't make a right..


 Regards.


 Faisal Imtiaz
 Snappy Internet  Telecom
 7266 SW 48 Street
 Miami, FL 33155
 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232

 Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: supp...@snappytelecom.net

 - Original Message -

 From: George Skorup geo...@cbcast.com
 To: af@afmug.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2015 10:27:05 PM
 Subject: [AFMUG] ePMP VoIP QoS

 Yo Cambium, you need to add DSCP 12 (Assured Forwarding) in addition to
 DSCP 46 (Expedited Forwarding) to the default VoIP priority
 configuration. We're finding more devices sending SIP packets as AF and
 RTP as EF. AF isn't prioritized and out-of-band signaling (prompts, etc)
 are sent as SIP messages so sometimes these are getting dropped, not to
 mention registrations, invites, etc. And more devices are stupid (mostly
 Grandstream), they only let you set ONE priority value for the entire
 device. These are coming default as DSCP12/AF. I've tried to get
 everyone to change this to 46, but they don't remember.

 Or just apply the whole Canopy DiffServ table. We've never had to change
 any of those code points. Turn HP on, it just works.

Re: [AFMUG] mimosa

[Steve D]

Mama taught me that if I have nothing nice to say to not say anything at
all.

  :]

-Steve D

On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
wrote:

  Yea, but if some investor sees it, you will have a Fatwa put out on you.



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown
 *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 8:37 AM
 *To:* af
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa



 We say negative stuff about each other every day...

 Kinda like a locker room in here.



 *From:* Mathew Howard mhoward...@gmail.com

 *Sent:* Thursday, May 21, 2015 8:37 AM

 *To:* af af@afmug.com

 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa



 This is afmug... we say negative stuff about Ubiquiti everyday :P

 I don't find it hard to believe that the Mimosa is getting a lot better
 throughput in this particular situation, but it would be really interesting
 to know how the two compared using the exact same channels probably not
 actually possible to know at this point, since I'm assuming he had the AF5x
 on a 50mhz channel, which can't done on a Mimosa.



 On Thu, May 21, 2015 at 1:10 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
 wrote:

 Don’t have your answer, only the results and the radios are running 40x40,
 split channels.  I do know he doesn’t want to get into a battle with
 everyone over this issue and I don’t blame him.  Mention something negative
 about Ubiquiti and you get investigated and accused of everything from
 stealing candy from babies to taking payoffs from multiple sides and trying
 to short sell the stock.  He saw the lies and false accusations I had to go
 through on SeekingAlpha and he doesn’t want any part of that.   Nobody
 wants the facts, more important to attack the messenger.  This gentlemen
 also has 30 more years in the radio industry than I do so I respect what he
 says.



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Reynolds
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 20, 2015 6:52 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] mimosa



 This story doesn't make a bit of sense.

 There would only be a handful of reasons he couldn't get enough
 throughput with AF5x radios, but could with a B5.
 If it's noise, well, the AF5X is going to handle adjacent and co-channel
 noise better than the B5, given the same channel widths and channel
 selection.

 There are certain situations where if everything was perfect and you were
 using a PAIR of 40MHz channels, that you could pull it off... but given you
 said it's a busy site, I'm not thinking that's the case.

 I'd love to learn more about that deployment.

  Josh Reynolds

 CIO, SPITwSPOTS

 www.spitwspots.com

  On 05/20/2015 05:33 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:

 I�ve got 10 of them up and they have worked great.� As for mixing it
 with Cambium gear, that�s a tough one.� Because there is no
 interoperability with GPS between manufacturers, you have to rely on normal
 isolation methods.� You probably want to keep them at least 10 apart or
 more.� On the one tower where I was concerned about the issue and another
 location where I have a lot of 5GHz radios, Ubiquiti, and others on the
 same roof, I�m using the Jirous dishes with the built-in shrouds and then
 using the B5c�s.� I don�t have any comparison to the B5 in that
 situation, I just planned for the worst case scenario.� I have another
 colleague that is using the B5c�s with Ubiquiti antennas with Ubiquiti
 shroud on the same roof because he needed a 34dBi antenna and it�s
 shooting 32 miles. ��He couldn�t get enough throughput out of the
 AF5x radios so he swapped to the Mimosa and he is getting 2-3 times more
 throughput, about 200Mbps.

 �

 Rory

 �

 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Ryan Mano
 *Sent:* Wednesday, May 20, 2015 6:20 AM
 *To:* 'af@afmug.com'
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] mimosa

 �

 Would like to know what your feedback is on the mimosa B5
 intergrated�.am looking to try this out and if its ok to mix with cambium
 gear on the same towers

 �

 thanks

 �

 �

Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS

[Steve D]

What is a good reason to like any vehicle?  It's all arbitrary value that
each of us would find!  Some people just like electric, but they want
something more comfortable than Leaf?

Hell, even if I had $100k laying around, I don't think I'd buy a car at
all, maybe a nice boat.  But what's the point of that?  I can't drive it on
roads!  :O

-Steve D

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:58 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 What is a good reason to like a Tesla?  I think it looks cool and it is a
 neat idea, but I don't see any use for it myself.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:56 PM, Steve D bigd...@gmail.com wrote:

 Can also haul more crap with an F-150, so there's one more arbitrary
 reason to not like a Tesla.

 -Steve D

 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 100k for a toy car?

 Go faster with a GTR.
 Look cooler with a Ferrari 360.
 Be more comfortable in a Jag XF (R?)
 Want better mileage on your electric car?  Leaf or something of the sort.

 These are all cheaper options if you're after a toy car.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
 wrote:

  Tesla is still a toy though.  Even with all its, any luxury car is a
 better value.  When there are alternatives or the next gen battery hits the
 market, not just a slightly better version of what Tesla has but a
 carbon-iron or carbon anything, then a long range electric has real value.
 Out in Arizona at 80mph or slightly more average in 100-115 degree weather
 and even hotter on the open highway, with air-conditioning, I’d be
 surprised to see their biggest battery last 200 miles.



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:16 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS



 Tesla S is cool.  Being able to drive 3-4 hours and not be stuck for 8
 is better.  Once they get more charging stations (at least in major cities,
 come on!) I can see it being available to way more people.




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
 wrote:

 Wow… that is really interesting … I looked at putting solar at my house
 before and the number of panels, the cost etc didn’t make it worthwhile.  I
 was quoted $25k in panels at the time … think I may revisit though and get
 additional quotes ;)



 BTW – a friend of mine has a Tesla S and loves it… I’m seriously
 considering one now as well



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Wright
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2015 11:31 AM


 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS



 I don’t know how many cycles it can handle, but max draw per pack is
 2kW continuous, 3.3kW peak.

 http://www.teslamotors.com/powerwall



 Chris Wright

 Network Administrator

 Velociter Wireless

 209-838-1221 x115



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Bill Prince
 *Sent:* Friday, May 01, 2015 10:38 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS



 I would want to run it DC, but it ain't bad. We're paying in the
 neighborhood of $1500 for about 5KWh with SLA batteries, so this would be a
 serious consideration.

 I'd like to know what the maximum draw-down is, and how many
 charge/discharge cycles, etc. etc.

 bp

 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com



  On 5/1/2015 10:20 AM, Peter Kranz wrote:

 I want to see more specs, but a 10kWh AC UPS for $3500.. �that�s a
 decent price.

 �

 http://www.teslamotors.com/powerwall

 �


 *Peter Kranz *www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 �

Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS

[Steve D]

Can also haul more crap with an F-150, so there's one more arbitrary reason
to not like a Tesla.

-Steve D

On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
wrote:

 100k for a toy car?

 Go faster with a GTR.
 Look cooler with a Ferrari 360.
 Be more comfortable in a Jag XF (R?)
 Want better mileage on your electric car?  Leaf or something of the sort.

 These are all cheaper options if you're after a toy car.


 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:26 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
 wrote:

  Tesla is still a toy though.  Even with all its, any luxury car is a
 better value.  When there are alternatives or the next gen battery hits the
 market, not just a slightly better version of what Tesla has but a
 carbon-iron or carbon anything, then a long range electric has real value.
 Out in Arizona at 80mph or slightly more average in 100-115 degree weather
 and even hotter on the open highway, with air-conditioning, I’d be
 surprised to see their biggest battery last 200 miles.



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2015 9:16 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS



 Tesla S is cool.  Being able to drive 3-4 hours and not be stuck for 8 is
 better.  Once they get more charging stations (at least in major cities,
 come on!) I can see it being available to way more people.




 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373



 On Tue, May 5, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org
 wrote:

 Wow… that is really interesting … I looked at putting solar at my house
 before and the number of panels, the cost etc didn’t make it worthwhile.  I
 was quoted $25k in panels at the time … think I may revisit though and get
 additional quotes ;)



 BTW – a friend of mine has a Tesla S and loves it… I’m seriously
 considering one now as well



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chris Wright
 *Sent:* Tuesday, May 5, 2015 11:31 AM


 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS



 I don’t know how many cycles it can handle, but max draw per pack is 2kW
 continuous, 3.3kW peak.

 http://www.teslamotors.com/powerwall



 Chris Wright

 Network Administrator

 Velociter Wireless

 209-838-1221 x115



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Bill Prince
 *Sent:* Friday, May 01, 2015 10:38 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] This is going to make a great UPS



 I would want to run it DC, but it ain't bad. We're paying in the
 neighborhood of $1500 for about 5KWh with SLA batteries, so this would be a
 serious consideration.

 I'd like to know what the maximum draw-down is, and how many
 charge/discharge cycles, etc. etc.

 bp

 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com



  On 5/1/2015 10:20 AM, Peter Kranz wrote:

 I want to see more specs, but a 10kWh AC UPS for $3500.. �that�s a
 decent price.

 �

 http://www.teslamotors.com/powerwall

 �


 *Peter Kranz *www.UnwiredLtd.com http://www.unwiredltd.com/
 Desk: 510-868-1614 x100
 Mobile: 510-207-
 pkr...@unwiredltd.com

 �

Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless mounts

[Steve D]

Did they field test it _at all_?  A crow landing on your panel would put it
out of alignment.  Those mounts are complete crap.

-Steve D

On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 6:15 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
wrote:

  We put up the “new, improved” ball mount yesterday and needless to say,
 it ‘s horrible.  They are almost as crappy as the first ones we used 2
 years ago but the made the ball more rough instead of smooth.  It probably
 raised the amount of wind that could move it from 5mph to 7mph.  .  I’m
 just curious, has anyone in their company actually field tested this unit
 outside or is there now wind in the country this was manufactured?  Either
 way, last Arc Wireless we ever buy.



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2015 5:51 PM

 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless mounts



 it aint moving, dont need any glue

 Sent from my iPhone



 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110


 On Apr 18, 2015, at 8:47 PM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net wrote:

  Good plan except for the vertical adjustment.  I was thinking Gorilla
 Glue or Loctite.



 Rory



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Kurt Fankhauser
 *Sent:* Saturday, April 18, 2015 5:35 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Arc Wireless mounts



 here is the ARC panel with half an MTI mount in it so I don't have to use
 the stupid ball socket mount.




 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110



 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 4:37 PM, Kurt Fankhauser li...@wavelinc.com
 wrote:

 The ball socket bracket still sucks. I actually used an MTI mount on the
 last two I mounted, actually had to bolt half the ARC mount to half on an
 MTI mount and that has worked really well. Will post a pic of this later
 tonight to the list with an AF5X on the ARC panel.




 Kurt Fankhauser

 Wavelinc Communications

 P.O. Box 126

 Bucyrus, OH 44820

 http://www.wavelinc.com

 tel. 419-562-6405

 fax. 419-617-0110



 On Sat, Apr 18, 2015 at 1:40 AM, Rory Conaway r...@triadwireless.net
 wrote:

  I just got in the ARC antennas with the brackets, ARC-BRO70101SO1R2.
 Just wondered if they were the same as the ones that were shipping 2 years
 ago or are they improved.



 Rory



 *Rory Conaway **• Triad Wireless •** CEO*

 *4226 S. 37th Street • Phoenix • AZ 85040*

 *602-426-0542 602-426-0542*

 *r...@triadwireless.net r...@triadwireless.net*

 *www.triadwireless.net http://www.triadwireless.net/*



 *“There is only one way in this world to avoid criticism: do nothing, say
 nothing, and be nothing.” - Aristotle*

Re: [AFMUG] US Scientists Object to iRobot

[Steve D]

Derp... hit send before including my link where I got that quote.

http://www.engadget.com/2015/04/10/irobot-roomba-lawnmower-astronomer/

-Steve D

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Steve D bigd...@gmail.com wrote:

 That article was light on details.  They want in on a piece of 6GHz
 frequency that radio astronomers have been using.


 Unfortunately, iRobot wants its beacons to broadcast data in the 6240-6740
 MHz range. That's the same frequency the National Radio Astronomy
 Observatory (NRAO) is using to watch the universe. The radio telescopes
 operating in that range are scouring space for an abundance in methanol,
 which usually indicates a star-forming region.
 NRAO's astronomers aren't happy with iRobot's plans and are officially
 contesting the company's request. iRobot, on the other hand, argues that
 NRAO's facilities are far from residential areas, and there's very little
 chance of its lawnmowers disrupting the astronomers' research. Thus, the
 future of Roomba for lawns depends on the FCC's decision and on iRobot's
 backup plans, in case the agency sides with NRAO.




 -Steve D

 On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Jason McKemie 
 j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote:

 Are they trying to get a waiver for use in exclusion zones?


 On Monday, April 13, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:


 http://www.dispatchtimes.com/irobot-seeking-fcc-approval-of-fixed-wireless-infrastructure-for-its-robotic-lawn-mower/2076/

 I must be missing something here. I don't see what makes this iRobot any
 different than anything else from an RF perspective.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

Re: [AFMUG] US Scientists Object to iRobot

[Steve D]

That article was light on details.  They want in on a piece of 6GHz
frequency that radio astronomers have been using.


Unfortunately, iRobot wants its beacons to broadcast data in the 6240-6740
 MHz range. That's the same frequency the National Radio Astronomy
 Observatory (NRAO) is using to watch the universe. The radio telescopes
 operating in that range are scouring space for an abundance in methanol,
 which usually indicates a star-forming region.
 NRAO's astronomers aren't happy with iRobot's plans and are officially
 contesting the company's request. iRobot, on the other hand, argues that
 NRAO's facilities are far from residential areas, and there's very little
 chance of its lawnmowers disrupting the astronomers' research. Thus, the
 future of Roomba for lawns depends on the FCC's decision and on iRobot's
 backup plans, in case the agency sides with NRAO.




-Steve D

On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Jason McKemie 
j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com wrote:

 Are they trying to get a waiver for use in exclusion zones?


 On Monday, April 13, 2015, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:


 http://www.dispatchtimes.com/irobot-seeking-fcc-approval-of-fixed-wireless-infrastructure-for-its-robotic-lawn-mower/2076/

 I must be missing something here. I don't see what makes this iRobot any
 different than anything else from an RF perspective.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL
 https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb
 https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions
 https://twitter.com/ICSIL

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Gaming Keyboard

[Steve D]

My Microsoft Sidewinder keyboard (with NKRO) has taken a beating over the
years.  I think they stopped making it though or something?  Also gives you
the option to disable the windows key while playing games.  Most keyboards
that have it that I used for gaming I popped it out, but on the desktop
it's actually an entirely useful key, so having it disabled just while in
game is much better.

Even for work, there are certain situations where I'll manage to jam up my
laptop keyboard which is entirely aggravating.

-Steve D

On Mon, Mar 30, 2015 at 7:56 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

  Here's a pretty good overview of nkey rollover:


 http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/mechanical-keyboard-razer-logitech-gigabyte,3505-6.html

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 3/30/2015 7:39 AM, Simon Westlake wrote:

 You need a keyboard that advertises full NKRO. This will allow an infinite
 number of keypresses to be sent. I personally use
 http://www.maxkeyboard.com/max-keyboard-blackbird-tenkeyless-tkl-cherry-mx-backlit-mechanical-keyboard.html
 but I like mechanical keyboards and ten key less boards. There are cheaper
 keyboards with full NKRO.

 From Wikipedia:

 Certain high-end keyboards have *n*-key rollover. This means that each
 key is scanned completely independently by the keyboard hardware, so that
 each keypress is correctly detected regardless of how many other keys are
 being pressed or held down at the time.[3]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollover_%28key%29#cite_note-TechWeb-3

 Most music keyboards use isolation diodes in their keyboard matrix
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_matrix_%28music%29 to implement
 full *n*-key rollover (sometimes abbreviated NKRO), making them immune to
 both key ghosting and key jamming.[4]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollover_%28key%29#cite_note-dribin-4

 However, to reduce cost and design complexity, most computer keyboards do
 not isolate all keys in this way. Instead, they use a matrix of key
 switches, without any isolation diodes, that assumes that only a limited
 number of keys will be held down at any given time. With these keyboards,
 pressing as few as three keys can cause ghosting effects,[4]
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollover_%28key%29#cite_note-dribin-4 although
 care is taken when laying out the matrix arrangement that this does not
 happen for common modifier key combinations.


 On 03/29/2015 09:18 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 I never liked those as much as PS2 Logitech's I used entirely before this
 one.  They did have the problem, though...

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
 On Mar 29, 2015 10:13 PM, TJ Trout t...@voltbb.com wrote:

 I use a standard dell usb keyboard for gaming and it works great. Like
 $15 new on ebay and it's one of the best keyboards I've ever owned
 On Mar 29, 2015 6:59 PM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
 wrote:

 Personally I wanted PS2 only keyboards for the longest time because it
 always worked.  Even up to XP I found issues with USB keyboards (gone with
 7 and 8).

  The PS2 keyboards I had most definitely had the problem you're talking
 about.  Definitely in UT2004 where it was VERY noticeable.  I believe this
 G19s is my first USB keyboard as far as I can recall.


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com wrote:

  That's what I saw, it was something about the groups of keys that they
 put into the same 'read' pattern.  So you can't have multiple keypresses
 from the same 'group', but USB had a limit of 6 simultaneous events.  Some
 high end keyboards get around that by having a Hub built into the keyboard,
 and presenting it to the OS as 2 keyboards so they can get 12 events.  PS2
 did not have this limitation.  There seems to be a ton of bad information
 floating around though.

 This PC Came with a USB Keyboard that's still in the box.  Maybe I'll
 put that out and try it.

 On 3/29/2015 8:46 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:

 The bus has nothing to do with what key combinations you can or can not
 push.  It's in the keyboard itself.  At least that's what my research told
 me.

  I've used the G19s for quite some time, but honestly the only PC game
 I've played in the last ~12 months is Diablo 3.  I absolutely love this
 keyboard for everything else, if that helps.


  Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

  On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 9:36 PM, Nate Burke n...@blastcomm.com
 wrote:

 I've acquired a new PC which is better than my old box, but It doesn't
 have any PS2 ports on it.  I've always used a PS2 Keyboard for gaming, but
 now have to use a USB to PS2 adapter, and I'm running into what I guess is
 called 'N-Key' Issues.  Apparently this is an issue with USB Keyboards
 where only a certain number of keys (or combinations) can be pressed

Re: [AFMUG] Strange one

[Steve D]

We've installed $10,000 point to point system and watched as a customer
plugged in a $30 dlink router.

Anything's possible.  D:

-Steve D

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 9:46 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

 Not many homes have Rockets, though, which is why I assumed it wasn't a
 residential install.

 Nope, put SFPs on every tower based radio.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Ken Hohhof af...@kwisp.com
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:45:16 AM

 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Strange one

  You did see that it connects to his customer’s Linksys router, right?
 You might be carrying this SFP quest too far, Don Quixote.

  *From:* Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net
 *Sent:* Wednesday, March 11, 2015 11:37 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Strange one

  But seriously, e-mail your vendors that don't put SFPs on their radios
 to request it.



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *can...@believewireless.net p...@believewireless.net
 *To: *af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, March 11, 2015 10:52:27 AM
 *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Strange one

 :) +1

 On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:47 AM, Mike Hammett af...@ics-il.net wrote:

  This wouldn't happen if the radios had SFPs.  ;-)



 -
 Mike Hammett
 Intelligent Computing Solutions
 http://www.ics-il.com

 --
 *From: *Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 *To: *Animal Farm af@afmug.com
 *Sent: *Wednesday, March 11, 2015 10:43:00 AM
 *Subject: *[AFMUG] Strange one


 We had  call yesterday about a link going down.  I could see RF was fine
 and LAN cable plugged but no traffic passing.  We headed out there and I
 had connected to Rocket M5...LAN light would come in and out.   We saw all
 LEDs operational on radio...like stuck.   We changed POE after checking
 cable and still no LAN link.  We tried resetting to default.  Nothing.
 replaced radios and configured it.  Good link..Internet on laptop,
 connect it to their Cisco Linksys router...no LEDs on WAN port.   checked
 that cable..nope its good.  LAN and wireless ports are working ..
 They had another router already configured.   Tried that and success.
 So according to client on Monday, thunderstorm passed through area around
 closing time.   Apparently a strike or surge burned out WAN port of router
 and LAN port of Rocket but nothing else on same surge protector.   Mast is
 grounded.
 Perplexed in El Paso
  Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] SM crashes are getting really old - enough with thedeadbeef already

[Steve D]

Publicly accessible IP on the radio?
On Mar 10, 2015 6:50 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:

  Probably a good guess.   Seems to have arrived after 13.1.3.  Affects
 some customers pretty regularly, others not at all.   Given that we use NAT
 for nearly everyone it accounts for a fair number of customers.

 Mark

 On 3/10/15 9:35 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  I don’t know how to read the stack dumps but does “Current context Task:
 NAPT” mean this only occurs when using NAT in the SM?

  *From:* Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 10, 2015 8:26 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] SM crashes are getting really old - enough with
 thedeadbeef already

  Dear Cambium,

 Can we please get this SM issue fixed?   It's getting really old.


 System Reset Exception -- Watchdog Reset Cur ExtInt 0 Max ExtInt 0 Cur
 DecInt 0 Max DecInt 0 Cur Sync 0 Max Sync 0 Cur LED 2 Max LED 1 Cur WDOG 0
 Max WDOG 1 Cur EthXcvr 0 Max EthXcvr 1 Cur FEC 0 Max FEC 0 Cur FPGA 18 Max
 FPGA 1663 Cur FrmLoc 0 Max FrmLoc 0 Cur WatchDog 33 Max WatchDog 33
 RTMLogStats 0 AAState 0
 Software Version : CANOPY 13.2.1 SM-DES
 Board Type : P11
 Device Setting : 5.4/5.7GHz MIMO OFDM - Subscriber Module -
 0a-00-3e-a0-4c-a7
 FPGA Version : 081514
 FPGA Features : DES, Sched;
 03/10/2015 : 15:28:31 EDT : :Timezone set to EDT;
 03/10/2015 : 15:32:57 EDT : :Delete Public Entry Protocol 17 Failed
 03/10/2015 : 15:32:57 EDT : :Delete Private Entry Protocol 17 Failed
 03/10/2015 : 15:54:39 EDT : :Tsl Free list empty. Entries 0
 03/10/2015 : 15:54:39 EDT : :FatalError()
 03/10/2015 : 15:54:39 EDT :
 Stack Dump information:
 Current context Task: NAPT
 Current Stack: 2%
 Max Stack: 26%
 r0:  r1: deadbeef r2: 0002 r3: 
 r4: 007930a4 r5:  r6:  r7: fffe
 r8: 00bc3380 r9: 0006 r10:  r11: 0001
 r12: 00bf1380 r13:  r14: 96904e99 r15: 08001b3c
 r16:  r17: 0236080e r18: 02360800 r19: 45acd86f
 r20: 00bc3380 r21: 02360822 r22: 02360822 r23: 
 r24: 009eb434 r25: deadbeef r26: 004f2370 r27: 009ee000
 r28:  r29: 000981e0 r30: deadbeef r31: 00029a64
 Task Stack Dump:
 0x009edf18: 001d 000981e0 001e deadbeef

 Mark



 --
 Mark Radabaugh
 Amplex
 m...@amplex.net  419.837.5015 x 1021

Re: [AFMUG] SM crashes are getting really old - enough with thedeadbeef already

[Steve D]

Can't speak for the ePmp because we have none, (and I don't know if 450 is
afflicted because ours is managed in private network only) but FSK and
public IP do not mix unless you set the ACL to your NOC or block telnet at
head of your network.  Script kiddies just hammer telnet trying to break in
and the FSK don't handle it well and just stack dump and reboot, typically
on a ten minute basis or thereabouts.  Firmware version doesn't matter.  I
never saw the wireshark dump from the guys troubleshooting it, but I was
told the telnet requests hitting the things were staggering.

The next beta for the 450's has a no telnet, ssh only option if I recall.
Whether that definitively fixes the problem or not though is yet to be seen
- not holding our breath for it to trickle to FSK anyway.

I don't have any event logs handy to compare, and it's the only thing
similar to Mark's problem I've seen that has recently started causing
radios to do this for us.  I dunno, maybe it's a 13.2.1 thing too.  /shrug

-Steve D

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:15 PM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz
wrote:

 Like this one?



 http://208.74.35.70/



 John Woodfield, President

 Delmarva WiFi Inc.

 410-870-WiFi



 -Original Message-
 From: Steve D bigd...@gmail.com
 Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 10:43pm
 To: af af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] SM crashes are getting really old - enough with
 thedeadbeef already

  Publicly accessible IP on the radio?
 On Mar 10, 2015 6:50 PM, Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net wrote:

  Probably a good guess.   Seems to have arrived after 13.1.3.  Affects
 some customers pretty regularly, others not at all.   Given that we use NAT
 for nearly everyone it accounts for a fair number of customers.

 Mark

 On 3/10/15 9:35 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

  I don’t know how to read the stack dumps but does “Current context
 Task: NAPT” mean this only occurs when using NAT in the SM?

  *From:* Mark Radabaugh m...@amplex.net
 *Sent:* Tuesday, March 10, 2015 8:26 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] SM crashes are getting really old - enough with
 thedeadbeef already

  Dear Cambium,

 Can we please get this SM issue fixed?   It's getting really old.


 System Reset Exception -- Watchdog Reset Cur ExtInt 0 Max ExtInt 0 Cur
 DecInt 0 Max DecInt 0 Cur Sync 0 Max Sync 0 Cur LED 2 Max LED 1 Cur WDOG 0
 Max WDOG 1 Cur EthXcvr 0 Max EthXcvr 1 Cur FEC 0 Max FEC 0 Cur FPGA 18 Max
 FPGA 1663 Cur FrmLoc 0 Max FrmLoc 0 Cur WatchDog 33 Max WatchDog 33
 RTMLogStats 0 AAState 0
 Software Version : CANOPY 13.2.1 SM-DES
 Board Type : P11
 Device Setting : 5.4/5.7GHz MIMO OFDM - Subscriber Module -
 0a-00-3e-a0-4c-a7
 FPGA Version : 081514
 FPGA Features : DES, Sched;
 03/10/2015 : 15:28:31 EDT : :Timezone set to EDT;
 03/10/2015 : 15:32:57 EDT : :Delete Public Entry Protocol 17 Failed
 03/10/2015 : 15:32:57 EDT : :Delete Private Entry Protocol 17 Failed
 03/10/2015 : 15:54:39 EDT : :Tsl Free list empty. Entries 0
 03/10/2015 : 15:54:39 EDT : :FatalError()
 03/10/2015 : 15:54:39 EDT :
 Stack Dump information:
 Current context Task: NAPT
 Current Stack: 2%
 Max Stack: 26%
 r0:  r1: deadbeef r2: 0002 r3: 
 r4: 007930a4 r5:  r6:  r7: fffe
 r8: 00bc3380 r9: 0006 r10:  r11: 0001
 r12: 00bf1380 r13:  r14: 96904e99 r15: 08001b3c
 r16:  r17: 0236080e r18: 02360800 r19: 45acd86f
 r20: 00bc3380 r21: 02360822 r22: 02360822 r23: 
 r24: 009eb434 r25: deadbeef r26: 004f2370 r27: 009ee000
 r28:  r29: 000981e0 r30: deadbeef r31: 00029a64
 Task Stack Dump:
 0x009edf18: 001d 000981e0 001e deadbeef

 Mark



 -- Mark Radabaugh Amplex m...@amplex.net 419.837.5015 x 1021

Re: [AFMUG] Powercode oddity - Commerzbank Ip space

[Steve D]

Wow... you've... you've really thought this through.

-Steve D

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 8:07 AM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
wrote:

 I suspected it was discovered, and v10 specifically broke the miner and
 the code that called these IPs from a list somehow put them in there.

 If I were a developer I would do things like that, which is why God
 intervened everytime I tried to learn to code. I would be in prison, I
 would be very pretty, the koolaid lipstick would make my lips cherry red,
 and my shirt would be tied in a knot while my milkshake brought all the
 boys to the yard. Good thing for me I never learned to code

 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:01 AM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com
 wrote:

  I think your tinfoil hat is a little tight.. ;) If we were going to use
 your billing server as a bitcoin miner, why would we only change the IPs
 when a customer updated their equipment in the portal? And why would we
 even make it visible? If I really wanted to hide a bitcoin miner on your
 billing server, I wouldn't do it by sending your customers to the redirect
 page..

 On 03/09/2015 09:57 AM, That One Guy wrote:

 me and my tinfoil hat find it suspiscious that v10 resolved the constant
 overloaded billing servers and this pops up, like there is a list somewhere
 and since the first one I saw was affiliated with bitcoins, Paranoid me
 assumed a developer sometime in the historical chain realized there were
 alot of unused cycles out there under their control.

 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:51 AM, Josh Luthman j...@imaginenetworksllc.com
  wrote:

 Look up variable declaration types.  I'm willing to bet someone did the
 math wrong.  I've seen it a couple times before but I can't recall where.

 While the IPs look random, they're not.

 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373
  On Mar 9, 2015 10:47 AM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Where are these IPs coming from.

  and this is a direct serious question, at any point in time, whether
 as a product of bertram or the previous developers, were billing servers
 used as a distributed bitcoin mining system?

 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Simon Westlake si...@powercode.com
 wrote:

  It's not database corruption, but it is a known bug (IP changing when
 MAC is edited in customer portal) and it's fixed in 10.03.32. The patch
 will be out this week.

 On 03/08/2015 10:34 PM, Jeremy wrote:

 Yes, it seemed like a database corruption issue to me as well.  I had
 one customer get the redirect and I went in and looked and he was on a
 completely wrong IP (in a subnet that I happened to be working on earlier
 that day and the evening before).  He hadn't even logged into the customer
 portal.  The logs didn't show any IP change, but clearly his IP was 
 changed
 in the database, as he was working fine on the same IP for months and
 months.  That issue and the incorrect assignments when a customer enters a
 new MAC seemed related to me.

 On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 9:26 PM, CBB - Jay Fuller 
 par...@cyberbroadband.net wrote:




 - Original Message -
 *From:* Jay Fuller - Cyber Broadband Inc
 *To:* Powercode
 *Cc:* Cyber Broadband Inc.
 *Sent:* Monday, February 02, 2015 7:34 PM
 *Subject:* Re: Ticket Updated [Ticket Number:5841] - weird ip
 changes during customer portal equipment edits


 Gentlemen:

 It has happened again.

 x, customer 1478, requested a public routable IP address
 which is
 in a different address class from what he was assigned at
 installation.
 Upon changing the address, he was assigned 104.152.40.91, which is an
 available address in the Cullman Public address range.  However,
 when
 looking at the ARP response (because the customer is bridged to our
 main
 router),  I saw another network device already had that IP address.

 So, I searched for that MAC address, which was 78:24:AF:7B:49:38 ,
 using
 equipment search, which came back to customer
 514, x, who had logged into the customer portal
 on January 29 to
 install a new router.  Upon changing his MAC address, powercode
 assigned him
 104.153.191.25, which is not even in any of our network address
 ranges.

 It belongs to:

  Source:  whois.arin.net
 IP Address:  104.153.191.25
 Name:  IMDC-KC-LOOPBACKS
 Handle:  NET-104-153-191-0-1
 Registration Date:  2/2/15
 Range:  104.153.191.0-104.153.191.31
 Org:  Iron Mountain Data Center
 Org Handle:  IMIML
 Address:  One Federal Street
 City:  Boston
 State/Province:  MA
 Postal Code:  02111
 Country:  UNITED STATES


 This is very similar to our new public IP range which is
 104.152.40.0/22

 Incidently, it appears this customer was assigned 104.152.40.91
 before he
 attempted to edit his equipment and was changed to 104.153.191.25.
 Also of
 note, it appears this only affected the GUI/web interface of
 powercode, and
 the router/bmu continued to assign him 104.152.40.91.

 I will now have to reassign  x a new IP address

Re: [AFMUG] www

[Steve D]

I watched over my dads shoulder recently as he very carefully typed
www.somedomain.com.



In the google search box.


So close, but yet so far...

-Steve D

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 6:19 PM, Travis Johnson t...@ida.net wrote:

 Hey...

 My kids make fun of me because I still type www in front of any website
 that I go to... anyone else remember the day when a website would not load
 without the www in front? :)

 Travis

Re: [AFMUG] Telrad LTE Webinar -- The Full Monty for the AFMUG

[Steve D]

Will it be recorded?

-Steve D

On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 6:34 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Damn.  I will be on tower if radio is bad or on drive back to El Paso on
 Thursday afternoon .  Next time

 Jaime Solorza
 On Mar 3, 2015 7:25 PM, Patrick Leary patrick.le...@telrad.com wrote:

  When: Thursday, March 05, 2015 2:00 PM-3:30 PM (UTC-05:00) Eastern Time
 (US  Canada).
 Where: via link below AND call in number

 Note: The GMT offset above does not reflect daylight saving time
 adjustments.

 *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*

 ...If you dareHell, if I dare.  I have room for 100. No holds barred,
 but I warn you I'm an armed veteran and expert marksman.

 Given time we'll even run through the LTE interference thing.

 1.  Please join my meeting.
 *https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/471332645*
 https://global.gotomeeting.com/join/471332645

 2.  Use your microphone and speakers (VoIP) - a headset is recommended.
 Or, call in using your telephone.

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 Access Code: 471-332-645
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Re: [AFMUG] Panama style power over ethernet

[Steve D]

Wow, I think someone saw one of the portable installer packs powered by a
drill battery and got it completely wrong!  :O

-Steve D

On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 3:35 PM, Eric Kuhnke e...@kuhnke-international.com
wrote:

 http://imgur.com/a/7uxHb

 uhhm, yeah

Re: [AFMUG] Grail or Gauntlet? ...or Maybe Just Powerpointware?

[Steve D]

I remember former employers who got sold on canopy 900 doing 40 miles, 7
meg, through trees!

Yeah

-Steve D

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 5:41 PM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

 The issue was the implied inclusiveness.  That is the way it was sold.

 Maybe it could do 70 Mbps.

 Maybe it could go 70 miles.

 Maybe it could support 70 PMP customers.

 But it could not do all 3 at the same time.

 Whatcha want Bunky; 70 Mbps, 70 miles, or 70 PMP customers?   Pick one.


 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com

 On 2/21/2015 2:09 PM, Chuck McCown wrote:

 I remember one WiMax guy putting on a sales pitch for rural telcos
 probably 10 years ago saying it will so 70 Mbps at 70 Miles for 70 PMP
 customers.  I called BS on him right in the meeting.  Almost got ejected
 for not being polite.  It is true, I was not terribly polite.

Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

[Steve D]

Heh... I got to troubleshoot an Optaphone last summer.  Absolutely nothing
wrong with the equipment, just a n connector that wasn't sealed properly by
the operators doing their own maintenance or something and took on some
water.  I recall that it had been installed circa 2002 in this particular
application but some documentation on it indicated the hardware was older
than that.  Having zero prior experience I was trying to find any info I
could, don't think I figured out exactly how to read rx levels.

-Steve D

On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
wrote:

 We installed Optophones in Santa Ana and Coleman Texas!!!  Damn small
 world

 Jaime Solorza
 On Feb 21, 2015 3:13 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

   I know a guy that used to modify cordless phones back in about 1990.
 Garberville California.  His name was Nat.  He could get 5 miles out of
 those things.  At the time Jim Carlson was selling TVs and hot tubs.  Jim
 decided to make a higher powered (2 watts) UHF version called the
 OptaPhone.  I bought one of the first OptaPhones.  Immediately told him how
 it needed to be improved and then went to work for him.  (that was during
 one of my many breaks from the Beehive crows).

  *From:* Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Saturday, February 21, 2015 11:27 AM
 *To:* Animal Farm af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Interesting read

  speaking of legal.   I hear the Mennonites in Cuahtemoc Chih have their
 own long range cordless telephone system using 200=300MHz systems from
 Senao/Engenius with 100 ft. towers.  they use as two way radio as well.

  Jaime Solorza
 Wireless Systems Architect
 915-861-1390

 On Sat, Feb 21, 2015 at 11:03 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com
 wrote:

  My take on it is that it is a semi-off-the-shelf way to do broadband
 in the 420-450 MHz band.  Might have twice the foliage-penetrating
 capability of 900 MHz.

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


  On 2/21/2015 9:59 AM, Paul McCall wrote:

  Jaime,



 Can you put this in a more simplified explanation please?



 What, exactly, can we do with this?



 Jaime Solorza

 On Feb 21, 2015 8:44 AM, Jaime Solorza losguyswirel...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 http://www.qsl.net/n9zia/dl435/index.html

 Jaime Solorza

 Wireless Systems Architect

 915-861-1390

Re: [AFMUG] There goes the neighborhood, right?

[Steve D]

Heh, was just going to ask this on the WISPA list, but may as well here:
 What's the word on indoor units (the 4000's) making their way to LTE
land?  Firmware upgrade or all new hardware spin?

-Steve D

On Thu, Feb 19, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Patrick Leary patrickleary.af...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Okay then.



 I commit to being a responsible contributor here. I've joined since I've
 noticed the archives are populated with a fair number of threads about
 Telrad and/or the COMPACT -- and among them many incorrect assumptions. I'm
 here to share info, dispel rumor, and take arrows. I will stay out of
 threads where I don't belong.



 We will also plan on going to Chuck's next Animal Farm. Frankly, I did not
 know it was open, instead assuming it'd be uncouth of us to be there.



 Cheers,



 Patrick


 --
 Patrick Leary
 Director BD, North America, Telrad
 727.501.3735
 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG]
 patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate
 address]



 --
 Patrick Leary
 Director BD, North America, Telrad
 727.501.3735
 patrickleary.af...@gmail.com [this address is only for AFMUG]
 patrick.le...@telrad.com patrick.le...@telrad.com [this is my corporate
 address]

Re: [AFMUG] confirmed.....900 mhz 450 coming

[Steve D]

Was announced in the webinar they had last thursday...

Late 2016 IIRC...

-Steve D

On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 7:46 AM, CBB - Jay Fuller par...@cyberbroadband.net
wrote:


 i saw it on a linkplanner slide :)

Re: [AFMUG] Teltonika Wimax CPE

[Steve D]

Yeah, unfortunately we didn't get far with these guys despite the
persistence of the sales dude.  I believe it requires an engineering
firmware or credentials or some such and they weren't exactly jumping to
hand that out.  If I recall, they want to sell you, in bulk, units that are
pre-programmed from the factory.

I could be completely out to lunch here and it was a couple years ago now,
I had very little dealings with it in person.  I certainly know we didn't
end up buying any!

-Steve D


On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 1:50 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Andrius Mackevicius andrius.mackevic...@teltonika.lt is the fella who
 calls and emails us... dont mention me to him

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:48 PM, Philip Rankin wireless...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Prolly the best place for them!  Maybe the company too with this response
 performance!

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:46 PM, That One Guy thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Holy cow, you cant get them to respond? Jebus, they call constantly. we
 have 2 of their units sitting on the shelf just because I havent thrown
 them in the junk mans collection box

 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:40 PM, Philip Rankin wireless...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 Hey all, I have a Teltonika 3.65GHz Wimax CPE that I'm having
 difficulty programming the radio features, channel bandwidth and channels.
 I can't get Teltonika to respond for any information.  I'm using the
 default user username and user password to try to program the thing.

 I suspect it is a POS, but since I have it, I would like to see if I
 can make it register.  It doesn't at this time.

 Anyone have any experience with Teltonika RUT738?

 --
 Philip J. Rankin
 Wireless Telecommunications Services
 PO Box 24
 Pittsburg, KS  66762




 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925




 --
 Philip J. Rankin
 Wireless Telecommunications Services
 PO Box 24
 Pittsburg, KS  66762




 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

Re: [AFMUG] RADWIN Training at Animal Farm, Salt Lake City, Feb 3rd, 2015

[Steve D]

Damn... knowing this was happening would have been nudge that probably
would have had me going this year.  :(

-Steve D

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Re: [AFMUG] RADWIN Training at Animal Farm, Salt Lake City, Feb 3rd, 2015

[Steve D]

Haha... never hurts to put it on the bosses desk and try!

-Steve D

On Thu, Jan 22, 2015 at 3:28 PM, Chuck McCown ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

   Not too late.

  *From:* Steve D bigd...@gmail.com
 *Sent:* Thursday, January 22, 2015 4:15 PM
 *To:* af af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RADWIN Training at Animal Farm, Salt Lake City,
 Feb 3rd,2015

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Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ?

[Steve D]

Let the rage go.

It's okay.  Deep breaths.

-Steve D

On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 9:28 AM, John Woodfield john.woodfi...@jwcn.biz
wrote:

 Nice try. I didn't cancel. I was called a prick on facebook and told to
 remove the code from my site as my account had been terminated for tos
 violations

 Sent from my iPhone

 On Jan 21, 2015, at 12:26 PM, Dennis Burgess dmburg...@linktechs.net
 wrote:

 While I don’t want to get into what exactly happened as it don’t really
 matter.  We provide a service with no contract.  We try to offer the best
 service possible for a super inexpensive price.  If you don’t like the
 service, then we don’t force you to use it, you can cancel your service at
 any time.



 I just recommend that you try it out, our Facebook page usually has a free
 30 day code on it, if not Jim can get you one I’m sure.  That way you can
 even try it out for a month, free of charge.If you like it, stick with
 it, if you don’t, then we are sorry to see you go!



 Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

 den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *James Howard
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2015 11:18 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ?



 I’m not trying to criticize Jim and Dennis for their part of this.  I’m
 just wondering if they actually had it covered in there about posting
 negative stuff on other sites.  I’ll admit I basically scanned their Terms
 on the site but I stopped and read the part about reviews and posts and it
 seemed to me that it could be interpreted to mean that you couldn’t post
 negative stuff on their site.  I can see where it could be interpreted to
 mean you can’t post them anywhere but my understanding is that usually if
 it was contested legally, a situation like that would be interpreted in the
 favor of the user (basically the person who didn’t write the contract).



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Steve D
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2015 11:08 AM
 *To:* af
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ?



 Personally, I applaud the fact that he fired someone that insulted him
 and his coworkers.



 Whether it's in the TOS or not, thank you Dennis for standing up to that
 behaviour.



 I may never use your service (Cartography and GIS is a minor hobby of
 mine) so I can't comment how good or bad it is, but I know the difference
 between a bad review and someone who is just being rude.  Obviously no
 professionalism on his part in that review I have zero respect for that.
 It's bad enough when we in this industry have to hear it from customers and
 take it, but effectively doing it to each other is an absolute low.



 -Steve D



 On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 8:58 AM, James Howard ja...@litewire.net wrote:

 Dennis,



 I’m not trying to defend the poster or anything but could you point out
 where in your Terms that it prohibits what he did?  I see your restriction
 on reviews etc but unless I’m missing something, that doesn’t specify posts
 or reviews on sites other that towercoverage.com.  IANAL of course so
 maybe it’s implied, but what I read there seems to only apply to actions on
 your site.





 James Howard

 LiteWire Internet Services, Inc.







 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2015 10:49 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ?



 Yep.. bout the truth.. lol. J



 Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

 den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson (airCloud)
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2015 10:46 AM


 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ?



 Well aren’t you monitoring every list and every forum all the time?



 Sheesh, slacker..



 Jerry



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Dennis Burgess
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2015 7:46 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program ?



 What I love about this, is a person posted to this forum several hours
 PRIOR to sending in a support e-mail asking or telling us his account had
 an issue.   If he would have sent the email quickly, I’m sure the issue
 would have been fixed much quicker.  Typical end user issue, let’s not go
 through the normal support channels to get help.  Going around support
 channels is quicker right!   Guess you can’t win them all.



 Dennis Burgess, CTO, Link Technologies, Inc.

 den...@linktechs.net – 314-735-0270 – www.linktechs.net



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *John Woodfield
 *Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2015 9:19 AM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] RF frequency mapping program

Re: [AFMUG] OT Fun Read

[Steve D]

I recently listened to a rant about the dangers of wireless while
terminating a cable inside a home that lead out to the customers shiny new
radio.  I figured I'd just shut up and say nothing, lest they cancel or
something.  They were very concerned about the smart meter which now had
said shiny radio about 10 feet above it.

Seem to be coming across this mentality more and more as of late.

-Steve D

On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:26 AM, Jeremy jeremysmi...@gmail.com wrote:

 I thought I had ran into one of these at an install last month.  They were
 adamant that there should be no WiFi signals in their house.  I explained
 to them that the antenna on the roof was talking to the tower above their
 house using WiFi, and there were likely many, many WiFi frequencies going
 throughout their house.  They looked at me the way that I was looking at
 them (like they had three heads).  As it turns out, they just didn't want
 their teenager looking at porn in his bedroom.

 On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 9:00 AM, Bill Prince part15...@gmail.com wrote:

  Yah.� I've read about this a couple years ago.� Guess there aren't
 too many WISPs in the area...

 bp
 part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com


 On 1/14/2015 7:29 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:

  http://www.washingtonian.com/articles/people/the-town-without-wi-fi/

[AFMUG] PTP230 talk to a PTP450?

[Steve D]

Any chance of that?  I know it sounds silly but would make alignment real
easy since we'd be converting to connectorized antenna's at the same time.

I suspect the answer to be no but figured worth an ask...

-Steve D

Re: [AFMUG] Mounting Brackets against irregular surface brick

[Steve D via Af]

Dremel rotary saw with either a cone or flat wheel is what you'd be looking
for.

One of these:
http://www.dremel.com/en-us/Tools/Pages/CategoryProducts.aspx?catid=2013

with one of these:
http://www.dremel.com/en-us/Accessories/Pages/SubCategories.aspx?catid=2071catname=Structured+Tooth+Carbide+Cutters

They work fantastic for jobs like this.  Honestly, unless you plan to use
it a *lot* get the corded version too.  The battery versions (well, the
*cheap* model I have) are pathetic for battery life IMO.  And, if like me,
for odd jobs where you need such a tool, you can probably suffer an
extension cord.

-Steve D

On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I’m trying to mount either a bullet camera or a box camera with this type
 of bracket



 [image:
 http://www.everfocus.com/Storage/EVF/Original%20Picture/BA-01/s_BA_01.jpg]

 Rory





 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy via Af
 *Sent:* Sunday, December 28, 2014 6:51 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Mounting Brackets against irregular surface brick



 Is that the only option?  Are you trying to mount a J-Pole or what type of
 bracket?



 On Sun, Dec 28, 2014 at 6:45 PM, Rory Conaway via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I’ve got some buildings that have a decorative brick on the side that has
 peaks and valleys of up to 1.5” I need to mount brackets against them
 meaning I need a tool that can ream away the brick until I have a smooth
 area to mount the bracket against it. Imagine a hole saw that that is just
 flat or something like a counter sink tool.  Can someone please tell me
 what that’s called?



 Rory Conaway
 Triad Wireless
 4226 S. 37th Street
 Phoenix, Az.  85040
 602-426-0542
 r...@triadwireless.net
 www.triadwireless.net



 “Mediocrity finds safety in standardization. -- Frederick Crane”

Re: [AFMUG] The Dream of a Unified SM

[Steve D via Af]

The two different sku's for 3 GHz and 3.65 is particularly annoying...

-Steve D
On Dec 4, 2014 9:26 AM, Mark Radabaugh via Af af@afmug.com wrote:


 That’s one of the reasons we settled on 450.

 Having to carry 900FSK, 2.4FSK, 5.7FSK, 5.2FSK, 5.4FSK, 5.7 430, 2.4 450,
 3.65 450, 5.7 450, 2.4 ePMP, 5.7ePMP, 3.65 Wimax, NanoBridges,
 NanaStations, Rockets, UbiquWhatevers was getting really truly ugly.

 And then Cambium wants us to keep track of speed keys on radios.   That’s
 still completely dumb, but they are stuck on it.

 Mark

  On Dec 4, 2014, at 12:10 PM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:
 
  I got spoiled.  When Cambium introduced the multiple color code support
 in the SM's, I no longer had to send my installer out with 3 different
 radios for the different towers he might need to connect to.  It was so
 nice to program a radio and know that it was going to the customer.
 (because inevitably, the extra radios ended up staying in his truck, until
 he would come and dump a pile of radios back in the office).  Now I'm back
 to sending out 3 radios again, He might need to connect to the tower that
 only had FSK, Only EPMP, or Only 450.
 
  If only there was a single SM that could connect to any of the AP's. Ah
 well, I can dream.

Re: [AFMUG] RANT: Cambium Spec sheets

[Steve D via Af]

The captchya really, really, really needs to DIAF.  Please make it DIAF.

If the site is being overloaded by a Ubiquiti botnet downloading the PDF's
over and over again to crash the site (which has to be the only reason for
the captchya?  right?)  there has to be a better way...

-Signed,
asdf asdf of asdf incorporated.
Installing asdf since 1234.

On Tue, Nov 25, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Ray Savich via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Hi Dan.
 Please send me your direct email.
 ray.sav...@cambiumnetworks.com

 thanks

 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dan Petermann via Af
 Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 1:56 PM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RANT: Cambium Spec sheets

 Nope, not working.

 I've just wasted almost 2 hours on a project because I can't get the data
 I need for a client. This is why having to enter data just to get info on a
 product is a very bad idea. If they hadn't specified the radios I would
 have went elsewhere.

 Having said that I need the following:
 ePMP - the entire line including the PTP series and antennas.
 PTP450 and antennas





 On Nov 25, 2014, at 12:27 PM, Ray Savich via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Hi
  It should be working now. Let me know what specific one(s) you need.
  Ray
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Dan Petermann via Af
  Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2014 12:12 PM
  To: af@afmug.com
  Subject: [AFMUG] RANT: Cambium Spec sheets
 
  Here I sit trying to get work done for the week and I need some specs
 for some Cambium gear.
 
  Go to the website select the data sheets I need, enter the captcha data
 and nothing.
 
  Enter the new one after the page reloads noting happens.
 
  Do it again. no spec sheet
 
  Enter it again after another reload.nothing.
 
  Look for similar gear where data sheets are not a national
 secret..JACKPOT!

Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official

[Steve D via Af]

Yeah, I can't stress enough how nice the primary, secondary, tertiary color
code system is - moving away from a single color code system was worth the
time involved.  Even if you put each ap in a sector in as a primary
(which we do for self-install/contractor installs), it'll still look for
the better of the available ap's and lock to that - essentially doing
exactly what your script is.  Our tech's who know the area will put only
the sector they know should be primary as such and the rest as secondary.
There's even the option for it to intelligently move to the sector that
will provide the most throughput.  I don't know how it picks that, but I
presume it's to avoid crowding to one sector, which I like.  If another
sector isn't as heavily loaded, but the signal is only a little bit worse,
a bit of smart balancing that way could be nice.  I've never followed up to
see if that's how it actually works in the real world, but we set it that
way anyway.

-Steve D

On Mon, Nov 17, 2014 at 5:48 PM, Aaron Schneider via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:

  Hi Matt

  This is what most customers use the primary/secondary/tertiary color
 codes for.  That in conjunction with the rescan timers will automatically
 make the sms rescan to try to get back on a primary color code if they had
 to use a backup to register.

  Regards,

  Aaron


  Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone
 Any typos or strange word placement aren't my fault!


  Original message 
 From: Matt via Af
 Date:11/17/2014 2:35 PM (GMT-06:00)
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] System Release 13.2 is Official

If we know about this issue before release and documented it in the
 release notes, it could have been spun as
  a feature, but that opportunity is gone now :)
 
  The concern is how long it takes the SM to scan for the AP on each boot
 up, right? How about a flag that tell that
  SM that when it is rebooted, it should first try to connect with the AP
 it was connected to prior to reboot, and to initiate
  the scan only if that fails? Or do you need a button that says turn off
 all 2.5 center frequencies?

 Not so sure on this.  We use same color code on all AP's currently.
 Occasionally an SM will get on a non-ideal signal AP in the cluster
 etc and stick there.  To fix this every night a perl script scans all
 SM's in the system and logs signal strength etc.  If the MAC of the AP
 an SM is registered too has changed it reboots the SM and waits for it
 to register again and records the MAC of the AP it registered too.

 It sure would be nice if there was a SNMP command to trigger a new AP
 Eval scan instead of reboot but there is not.  Would sure also be nice
 if there was SNMP command to trigger a link test from the SM rather
 then just the AP.

 I see a better solution as a primary scan list and a secondary scan
 list.  Primary list is the small list of frequencies and channel sizes
 we use 95 percent of time.  The secondary list is the full list we
 scan when we try X seconds and cannot connect.  Such as the situation
 when interference moves in and we can only find a couple 5mhz channel
 remotely clean.


  Not promising to make any enhancements as we try to make a bugfix
 release for the 13.2 issues,
  but definitely looking for feedback on the best way(s) to reduce the
 scan time.

Re: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug?

[Steve D via Af]

I don't think I'll send just one SM to Paul, but had I known about this, I
might have kept others for maybe a batch send.  Great to know it's
repairable - I'll put it on the shelf.  Does this happen with the 450's or
is it an FSK only thing?

I'd still like to know what can cause it, if it was something within my
control I'd like to avoid doing it again in the future!

-Steve D

On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 8:32 AM, That One Guy via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 ALWAYS send to Paul, if nothing else it gets you out of dealing with Ewaste

 On Thu, Nov 13, 2014 at 10:16 AM, Nate Burke via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 Dang, I think I just threw out 3 or 4 AP's that were stuck in default
 mode because I didn't think they were repairable.  Is your workaround a new
 fix?


 On 11/13/2014 10:13 AM, Paul McCall via Af wrote:

 Matt,

 There are actually lots of little chips around the CPU area that can
 cause this and a couple other parts that can as well.

 We actually have a proprietary workaround that works pretty universally
 to fix this, but I cant share that secret :)  it involve no component swaps.

 Paul

 -Original Message-
 From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Matt via Af
 Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2014 9:28 AM
 To: af@afmug.com
 Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug?

 Anyone know the component to replace to fix this?  Have replaced
 ethernet controller chips and diodes on P9 units.


 On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Ken Hohhof via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 I had one do that, Paul at PDMNet said it was a hardware problem and
 apparently somewhat common, I sent it in and they fixed it.  It was a
 pretty old SM and I thought it was just crud or water in the jack or
 on the PCB but I cleaned it up really good with alcohol with no success.

 From: Steve D via Af
 Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2014 9:02 PM
 To: af
 Subject: [AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug?

 I know I've seen this before, but just had an FSK 2.4 SM do this to me
 - real bugger too because it was the last in my truck while I was out
 doing a site test.

 Any ideas what caused it or how to fix it?  I think I was in the
 process of changing color codes when it happened.  It's just my truck
 test unit running
 11.2 firmware.  Going to 13.1.3 didn't fix, nor did going back to
 10.5.  Put in a real default plug and reset to defaults too.

 -Steve D





 --
 All parts should go together without forcing. You must remember that the
 parts you are reassembling were disassembled by you. Therefore, if you
 can't get them together again, there must be a reason. By all means, do not
 use a hammer. -- IBM maintenance manual, 1925

Re: [AFMUG] ePMP Beta Release 2.3.1 Available Now

[Steve D via Af]

ePMP Beta release 2.3.1-RC3 is now available for download and you can find
it here: https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/epmp



System Release 2.3.1 adds the following functionality/features:



*RFC1213 Support*

RFC1213 supports standard interface MIBs. Items such as Ethernet interface
Tx/Rx and corresponding stats are now supported per the standard RFC. This
allows users to utilize 3rd party monitoring tools that support RFC1213



*Seperate Management IP when SM is in NAT mode*

Separate Wireless Management IP will provide the ability to separate User
traffic from Management Traffic system is configured in NAT mode and
provide separate management access to the SM.



*ARP table display*

Displays all the ARP entries for interfaces present in the routing table



*VoIP helper functionality under NAT*

When the SM is in NAT mode, ePMP inspects SDP packets and automatically
creates appropriate NAT port mapping for RTP. This eliminates the needs for
STUN functionality on the SIP Server and allows VoIP to work seamlessly in
NAT mode.



*General bug fixes*





Please post any feedback on the ePMP Beta Forum!

http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-Beta/bd-p/forums_epmp_beta

On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 9:41 AM, Josh Luthman via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

 You do not have sufficient privileges for this resource or its parent to
 perform this action.
 Click your browser's Back button to continue.
 Return to my original page



 Josh Luthman
 Office: 937-552-2340
 Direct: 937-552-2343
 1100 Wayne St
 Suite 1337
 Troy, OH 45373

 On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Ray Savich via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  Check out
 http://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-Beta/New-ePMP-Beta-Release-2-3-1-now-available/m-p/36200
 for details.



 Ray

[AFMUG] Phantom Default Plug?

[Steve D via Af]

I know I've seen this before, but just had an FSK 2.4 SM do this to me -
real bugger too because it was the last in my truck while I was out doing a
site test.

Any ideas what caused it or how to fix it?  I think I was in the process of
changing color codes when it happened.  It's just my truck test unit
running 11.2 firmware.  Going to 13.1.3 didn't fix, nor did going back to
10.5.  Put in a real default plug and reset to defaults too.

-Steve D

Re: [AFMUG] New ePMP Beta Software 2.3-RC10 available!

[Steve D via Af]

For these situations where someone might want two configurations, it would
be nice to be able to pre-load configurations and if the sm can't connect
to an AP for a set amount of time, it loads the other config and tries
that, and goes back and forth until it locks on.

On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Sriram Chaturvedi via Af af@afmug.com
wrote:

  Shayne,



 It doesn’t do that automatically. You have to explicitly configure the SM
 to operate in Standard WiFi mode (from the Quick Start or
 Configuration-Radio page) to connect to an AP operating standard 802.11.



 Thanks,
 Sriram



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Shayne Lebrun via
 Af
 *Sent:* Thursday, October 09, 2014 8:15 AM

 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New ePMP Beta Software 2.3-RC10 available!



 Is the basic idea that you’re using an SSID and wpa2 anyway, so when the
 ePMP tries to connect, it then identifies the AP as 802.11 or
 CanopyMagicSauce and connects accordingly?



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Paul McCall via Af
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 8, 2014 11:25 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New ePMP Beta Software 2.3-RC10 available!



 Got it! Makes sense



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *timothy steele via Af
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 08, 2014 10:48 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Cc:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] New ePMP Beta Software 2.3-RC10 available!



 If you turn Airmax off on your UBNT AP's you can slowly swap all CPE's to
 Epmp then change AP to Epmp that is what wifi mode is for


 —
 Sent from Mailbox https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox



 On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Paul McCall via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  What is the perceived application for the SM operating in standard WiFi
 mode ?



 *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com af-boun...@afmug.com] *On
 Behalf Of *Sriram Chaturvedi via Af
 *Sent:* Wednesday, October 08, 2014 7:09 PM
 *To:* af@afmug.com
 *Subject:* [AFMUG] New ePMP Beta Software 2.3-RC10 available!



 Folks,



 ePMP Beta software 2.3-RC10 is now available for download here:
 https://support.cambiumnetworks.com/files/epmp



 System Release 2.3 adds the following features:

 · 5 MHz and 10 MHz channel bandwidth support

 o   Max number of subscribers is limited to 30 for 5MHz and 60 for 10 MHz

 · SM Wi-Fi mode support (Only 20 MHz and 40 MHz channel
 bandwidths)

 o   SM can operate in standard Wi-Fi mode

 · Broadcast Traffic Shaping (Limiting)

 o   Ability to limit the number of broadcast packets per second

 · Multicast VLAN and Prioritization

 o   Multicast VLAN support with prioritization

 o   Ability to leave/join multicast groups and limit number of multicast
 groups to up to 5 groups

 o   Support for IGMPv3 snooping

 · CLI access via ssh (default credentials: admin/admin)

 · Option to set SM Max Tx power manually



 Please post any feedback on the ePMP Beta Forum!

 http://epmpbeta.community.cambiumnetworks.com/



 Thanks,

 Sriram

Re: [AFMUG] Where is CNUT on the Cambium Website?

[Steve D via Af]

For that matter, all their spec sheets and documentation could stand to be
in one spot too.  It's better than it was (or I just know where everything
is now...), but it's still all over the place.  I'd like to see all spec
sheets and info in the same support download area with the planning tools.

Hey Cambium, let me show you my dropbox directory structure and how nice
and easy it is to find ALL the stuff... once I copy it off your website...

*/tongue-in-cheek*

-Steve D

On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 3:29 PM, Josh Reynolds via Af af@afmug.com wrote:

  LOL :)

 Josh Reynolds, Chief Information Officer
 SPITwSPOTS, www.spitwspots.com
  On 10/06/2014 01:11 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af wrote:

 Most web sites leverage google to index and provide search for their site.
 You can do google searches like site:cambiumnetworks.com cnut where it
 only looks at cambiumnetworks.com. I use this all the time for finding
 stuff on thepiratebay. It's much more reliable than their own search.

 Matthew Jenkins
 SmarterBroadband
 m...@sbbinc.net
 530.272.4000

 On 10/06/2014 02:05 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote:

 oh that's awesome,� And we're trusting them to route packets around for
 us?


 On 10/6/2014 4:00 PM, Matt Jenkins via Af wrote:

 I couldn't find CNUT easily. A google search turns up:

 http://www.cambiumnetworks.com/support/management-tools/cnut

 Matthew Jenkins
 SmarterBroadband
 m...@sbbinc.net
 530.272.4000

 On 10/06/2014 01:57 PM, Nate Burke via Af wrote:

 Did I miss a Memo that CNS is replacing CNUT, or is there a special place
 you have to go to get it? Under Downloads I have access to the .pkg3 files
 for all the platforms, but I can't find anywhere to actually download CNUT.
 Am I missing it, or is it gone?� All I see is the CNS Server.

 Nate